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Is the Titan nerf announced for April CCP kowtowing to GOONs?
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#221 - 2012-03-18 01:02:53 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Andski wrote:
You're whining about nerfs to a ship that you'll never own and considering moving to wormholes, the land of no supercaps?


NERFing is lazy. There are better ways to buff other game elements. I Once did consider going for a Titan but after hearing about the years it'd take to train & the continual nerfs nope I'm not considering it anymore... rate the nerfing crap is going by the time I trained for a Titan it'd be nerfed down to a rookie ship
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Voith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#222 - 2012-03-18 01:04:40 UTC
Titans are being build 5-10 times faster than they are being destroyed.

This means on a long enough timeline there will be fleets of hundreds of titans.

Remove Supercaps from the game, tia.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#223 - 2012-03-18 02:08:18 UTC
Voith wrote:
Remove Supercaps from the game, tia.


This is our long-term goal.

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Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#224 - 2012-03-18 02:28:42 UTC
I'm against this change mostly because I feel the tracking formula is already whacky enough as it is. Right now a T1 cruiser can orbit a battleship in a predictable pattern and the battleship has no chance of hitting the cruiser, yet people are OK with that apparently. Tracking mechanics has its place but it should not provide immunity to damage. In addition to tracking mechanics turrets also deal with signature radius. Shouldn't both these mechanics be looked at to see if things are working as expected?
  • CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#225 - 2012-03-18 02:33:17 UTC
"turret mechanics are dumb, don't nerf titan tracking"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Bloutok
Perkone
Caldari State
#226 - 2012-03-18 02:35:25 UTC
OfBalance
Caldari State
#227 - 2012-03-18 02:43:03 UTC
It's the topic that keeps on cross-posting.
Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#228 - 2012-03-18 02:56:53 UTC
Andski wrote:
"turret mechanics are dumb, don't nerf titan tracking"


More like "Re-evaluate the turret formulas. The titan nerf is like a band-aid on a bullet wound"

This guy explains it well.
  • CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#229 - 2012-03-18 08:09:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
DarthNefarius wrote:
NERFing is lazy. There are better ways to buff other game elements.
Right… Except that the best way of buffing other game elements is nerfing the one thing that is out of order. Nerfs are far better and far more precise balancing tools than buffs are — buffing everything else just means you've created a whole slew of new balance issues and caused power creep as icing on the cake.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#230 - 2012-03-18 11:22:27 UTC
Avid Bumhumper wrote:
Well, if their plan was to get a bunch of "Bitter Vets" to unsub, they will probably succeed with this one. Oops

Have already heard quite a few people in corp talking about dropping their Titan accounts, simply no point in logging them on now, kind of like Super Coffins.

If your going to make expensive ships useless, why not simply remove them from the game and reimburse the ABSURD skill points that people had to invest when the ships were actually useful.
Or, at least let them dock so that people can actually use the character for something else.

You have listened to the screaming mob, most of which probably have never seen a Titan, much less been killed by one and made them once again useless.

What is a bittervet to train for now? Assault frigs?
To many people, Supercaps were part of the Endgame of Eve, yet you continue to make them a liability to own, at least for anyone that can't field 100 of them.
Now I have to respec my planned Titan pilot to something else, but since dread tracking is no better than a Titan, and they have no way to defend themselves against anything smaller than a moon, I'm not sure why. On the other hand, at least they can dock....

So I must congratulate you CCP, from the looks of the forums, it looks like you've gotten the carebears upset as well.

Now, if you could do something to **** off the pirates, you'd be batting a thousand! Oops



I can haz ur stuffs?

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Sernum
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#231 - 2012-03-18 13:46:31 UTC
I think if you put something about rookie ships in the title of this thread you might be able to trick a dev or gm into reading it.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#232 - 2012-03-18 14:31:14 UTC
Sernum wrote:
I think if you put something about rookie ships in the title of this thread you might be able to trick a dev or gm into reading it.


Nobody would care either because Titans/supers or rookie ships are all flown by titan pilots and alts, so they don't count Lol

In the end are you going to threat leaving too or start playing the game without your pownmobile?
If you leave think about the poor player that I am and send me isk plz, not titan cause I'd reprocess that crap to build drakes/canes.

Also accepting BPO donations, T II's better of course. thx
Signal11th
#233 - 2012-03-25 17:54:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Andski wrote:
Signal11th wrote:
Andski wrote:
Cearain wrote:
I thought you were fine with the change because your real strength is your sheer number of players. Without powerful ships these other alliance will not be able to stand in the way of your herds.

But it is sort of funny to read about how you goons seem so concerned about bc gangs getting ganked. I guess you guys do care after all.


i'm sorry but no sane person can suggest that 20 players should defeat hundreds unopposed

20 guys deciding coalition level engagements is simply ******** and you know it

there is significant logistical and administrative work involved in getting that "sheer number of players" into fleets regularly and getting them back into the fight when they lose ships



Why not? happens in Modern warfare every day? I'm sure in the future it would be the same as well. I think what you saying is you don't like the fact that having hundreds upon hundreds of players in your alliance makes no difference?


ah yes i forgot that titans are dropped in real life warfare and decimate everything

carry on



How you have managed 3000 odd likes writing such nonsense is beyond me, What is a carrier? What is a F22 fighter jet or even a daisy cutter bomb compared to people who don't have that technology? Try engaging your brain before you open your mouth/type on a keyboard in future.

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#234 - 2012-03-25 19:50:31 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
How you have managed 3000 odd likes writing such nonsense is beyond me, What is a carrier? What is a F22 fighter jet or even a daisy cutter bomb compared to people who don't have that technology? Try engaging your brain before you open your mouth/type on a keyboard in future.


Yeah Eve ships are just like RL technology for the following reasons

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#235 - 2012-03-25 20:02:53 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
Andski wrote:

ah yes i forgot that titans are dropped in real life warfare and decimate everything

carry on



How you have managed 3000 odd likes writing such nonsense is beyond me, What is a carrier? What is a F22 fighter jet or even a daisy cutter bomb compared to people who don't have that technology? Try engaging your brain before you open your mouth/type on a keyboard in future.


GoonWaffe trolls feed each other thats how he got so many likes. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#236 - 2012-03-25 20:26:08 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!


Says the guy who never leaves highsec but is an expert on titans.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#237 - 2012-03-26 00:52:48 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Ladie Harlot wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!


Says the guy who never leaves highsec but is an expert on titans.



lol I've never left hi sec http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15162870

been awhile since anything of mine has died there... at least the x rated holo reel survived just not the livestock which was on it Lol
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#238 - 2012-03-26 05:49:29 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
been awhile since anything of mine has died there


That's the interesting thing about lowsec and nullsec...you actually have to go there to lose ships there. Mind-bending I know

But tell us more about your expertise concerning the Titan class vessel.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#239 - 2012-03-26 06:21:32 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
been awhile since anything of mine has died there


That's the interesting thing about lowsec and nullsec...you actually have to go there to lose ships there. Mind-bending I know



Same thing about hi sec too huh?

Been there done that

Back to titans... after I play for 3-4 years & can fly one & it gets nerfed to Hell? sorry CCP sucks for giving peeps the ship then taking awaywhat it can do. ULTIMATE INDIAN GIVERS IMHO
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#240 - 2012-03-26 06:36:47 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Same thing about hi sec too huh?

Been there done that


Yes, I know. That's why I'm encouraging you to leave high sec and experience the rest of the game before you try to speak with such authority about titans.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.