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The truth from the tinfoil hat club.

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Frying Doom
#1 - 2012-03-18 01:18:50 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Issler. Listen. That guy Frying Doom is either flipping nuts or is an amazing gimmick. If he is your alt then you, yourself are one of these two things. If he's not, then he is not someone who is helping your campaign, whether he intends to or not. I am not saying this to attack you. Your campaign isn't really important, but you do seem to be sincere and I hate to see that sincerity derailed by conspiracy whackjobs even if the conspiracy stuff is actually quite hilarious.

I'm sorry I've passed up my chance to be the designated heir to The Mittani, but I suspect that if Mittens decides his successor should be the PI alt of a player who has only put about 8 months on and off into this game since 2007, I'll still have a pretty good shot with or without your endorsement. I've made some pretty good posts, if I do say so myself, and that counts for a lot.

However, you are wrong about one important thing: I have, in fact, been trolling the hell out of you. The occasional serious post response just adds nuance to the trolling. But it's been ~mellow trolling~, not harsh trolling, which may be why you didn't really pick up on it until I actually stopped trolling long enough to give you an honest opinion about your completely batshit insane self-appointed campaign manager. Which, of course, you took to be a troll, so vOv


After recieving this post I decided to stop at this point, the game as it were was up. I would not call this an amazing gimmick, more like propaganda.

After the Campaign for CSM6 where Issler had tried to express her views only to be flooded under by Goonswarm trying to pointlessly attack her, turn her into a joke candidate and suck a few sympathy votes off other players, I realized if she did the same again, so would the goons. Issler had no idea what I was going to unleash onto the forums.

For CSM 6 Issler Dainze had gotten 639 votes so with this campaign if her views got the same percentage with this years voting being between 20 - 25% higher I expected her to get between 766 and 798 votes. Not enough for a seat on CSM 7.

CSM7's campaign comes around and before I had said anything Isslers Post for her CSM 7 candidacy had already blown out to 25 pages. The members of Goonswarm were going to try to rinse and repeat last years election. So the tin foil hat club was created.

In last years election people from the United States voted 17,766 times making up 36.19% of the vote. Now apparently people from the United states are big believers in Conspiracy Theories. So that's where I started. I must give my heart felt thanks to who ever's character Trabzz actually is. I got days of wear out of that one post of his.Thank You.

From their I pretty much just rode on that one idea for almost a week then had to think of other ideas these were even more whack job using things like people's homophobic tendencies then finally doing a minor post on religion. Oh I almost forgot Mittens the Terrorist.

The main idea of this Propaganda was simple name recognition, and to give the perception that Issler was anti-goon. This is due to the fact that so many people dislike the goons, quite honestly incorrectly that their is a pool of people to use. I didn't take this campaign out of the forums for the reason that Conspiracy Theorists and other people like this will lurk on forums. Where more mainstream people would not even look at them and lets face it even vote given the apathy in this game. I find it anazing that these propaganda posts I created have actually achieved a life of there own.

I believe Issler is a good candidate but with this years slick style of campaign from the other candidates she didn't stand a welks chance in a supernova. I believe next years campaign will be so polished that Hi-sec and any other non-bloc candidate will have to make them selves blocs of supporters well before the election to the point they should probably start running there campaigns for CSM8 as soon as these polls close. CSM 8 campaign will include shiny posters, spam mail slurs and alot of things I can't even imagine.

Ok what I really believe:
1) Mining reform, to be honest the biggest reform that would restore the balance and allow miners to get payed what they are due rather than being sweat shop employee's is the complete and total annihilation of all things BOTT. This just requires the CCP team responsible for Security to monitor it all year round not just Banning 1000+ people in one hit.

2) Wis, I personally would like to see Wis added to the game but having CCP use the resources they have already allocated to it. It needs to be done right and not released piece by piece. The piece by piece approach actually takes more time than to finish it completely.

3) My main concern for the future of this game is Newbies. We need to make life easier for them becuse we loose to many new players before they even know what this game is about. All though we have great people like the Eve university, Goonswarm, RvB, IT alliance and so many more. A lot of people never even make it into these corps before they quit. CCP is a business it has finite resources the more money it has the more money it can spend fixing this game.

4) Null sec needs work again. After all the alterations to Null sec done by CCP in their effort to get the alliances to fight more its a wreck. There are huge expanses with almost no population or even gate jumps. Null sec really needs more love and so does faction warfare.

See part 2

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Frying Doom
#2 - 2012-03-18 01:19:33 UTC
So No I am not some strange whack job. Actually this propaganda has worked well enough that I have gotten in game mails for support and others condemning me as a complete nut. Also I tried never to step out of character, I was amazed that no one ever picked up that I never attacked The Mittani as an ex-lawyer.

So in closing I would like to thank CCP for allowing me this ability to act like a complete loon and not get stopped, The members of CSM6 for the great work that they have done yes that definitely includes The Mittani and the members of all the previous CSM's that have allowed the current CSM to be able to do anything.

Vote Issler Dainze her inclusion to the CSM would make for a better more balanced EvE.

Also to the members of the Goonswarm I have been battling for the last 10 days all I have to say is

"Would you like to double your money"

Frying Doom

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-03-18 01:41:57 UTC
oh look a ~puppetmasta~ thread, who could have ever predicted this turn of events

~hi~

Frying Doom
#4 - 2012-03-18 01:45:21 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
oh look a ~puppetmasta~ thread, who could have ever predicted this turn of events

Yes I agree kind of obvious but it has worked how much I have no idea and will not till the votes are released anything over 798 is a win.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#5 - 2012-03-18 01:59:23 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
oh look a ~puppetmasta~ thread, who could have ever predicted this turn of events

Yes I agree kind of obvious but it has worked how much I have no idea and will not till the votes are released anything over 798 is a win.

799, op success.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#6 - 2012-03-18 02:01:40 UTC
I'd like to hear what Issler has to say about this, because honestly, I don't think having some whack job (or evil mastermind who pretends to act like one) can do anything to help a campaign. You've probably turned more voters off of Issler than helped with your "rallying of the anti-goon crowd".

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-03-18 02:05:57 UTC
I don't get why I am suppose to care.
Frying Doom
#8 - 2012-03-18 02:13:30 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
I'd like to hear what Issler has to say about this, because honestly, I don't think having some whack job (or evil mastermind who pretends to act like one) can do anything to help a campaign. You've probably turned more voters off of Issler than helped with your "rallying of the anti-goon crowd".

The possibility existed but something had to be done or it would have ended up the same as last year. This was why I only followed this on the forum and only in the speakers corner. Lets face it with 14% of eve voting the rest don't really care.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Kai Tel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-03-18 02:19:02 UTC
OP, I do feel some sympathy for Issler based on what was observed here in forum even though I didn’t vote for her. She was on my list of potentials. It’s just not your place to represent another person’s candidacy on a forum without their permission or counsel, per your own words. EVE is full of bat **** crazy people so I can’t fault you on that but you may have done her some personal harm. I hope you write her a direct apology outside the forum post here.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-03-18 02:19:44 UTC
I honestly thought you were a goon gimmick in Toblerone Triangular style. How disappointing.
Frying Doom
#11 - 2012-03-18 02:23:16 UTC
Kai Tel wrote:
OP, I do feel some sympathy for Issler based on what was observed here in forum even though I didn’t vote for her. She was on my list of potentials. It’s just not your place to represent another person’s candidacy on a forum without their permission or counsel, per your own words. EVE is full of bat **** crazy people so I can’t fault you on that but you may have done her some personal harm. I hope you write her a direct apology outside the forum post here.

Yes I do Owe Issler an apology if I have actually damaged her campaign in anyway shape or form. I sincerely hope I haven't.

As to a personal apology outside this forum I will mail her on the release of the final votes.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#12 - 2012-03-18 02:31:32 UTC
WarFireV wrote:
I don't get why I am suppose to care.

Not empty quoting.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-03-18 02:31:54 UTC
I almost wish I were still back in grad school because there is a mile long gender studies and discourse analysis paper that can be written on how you basically singled out the only female candidate in this election and did everything you could to deprive her of agency in her own campaign so you could secure what you thought the outcome should be for her.
Sidus Sarmiang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-03-18 02:42:40 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
I almost wish I were still back in grad school because there is a mile long gender studies and discourse analysis paper that can be written on how you basically singled out the only female candidate in this election and did everything you could to deprive her of agency in her own campaign so you could secure what you thought the outcome should be for her.



Basically, we're watching the mating ritual of a sperger.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-03-18 03:23:02 UTC
risk-free forum pvp: make awful posts, get called out, backpedal and say you were trolling all along Twisted

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-03-18 03:23:20 UTC
i like the Twisted emote

it makes me feel

twisted

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Takashi Kaeda
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-18 03:27:42 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
I almost wish I were still back in grad school because there is a mile long gender studies and discourse analysis paper that can be written on how you basically singled out the only female candidate in this election and did everything you could to deprive her of agency in her own campaign so you could secure what you thought the outcome should be for her.



As funny as this guy is, a phd in gender studies is the real laughable thing in this thread.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-03-18 03:33:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Marzetti
Takashi Kaeda wrote:

As funny as this guy is, a phd in gender studies is the real laughable thing in this thread.


Writing a paper on a topic is not the same as pursuing a PhD in that topic, as you may or may not learn when you finally get out of high school.

Also, sperg is the tool of the patriarchy.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-03-18 03:34:57 UTC
i too am genderqueer
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-18 03:37:54 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Takashi Kaeda wrote:

As funny as this guy is, a phd in gender studies is the real laughable thing in this thread.


Writing a paper on a topic is not the same as pursuing a PhD in that topic, as you may or may not learn when you finally get out of high school.

Also, sperg is the tool of the patriarchy.


I wish I could be as smart as liberal arts graduate student. Then maybe I wouldn't make all this money.
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