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I am Starting A petition For Eve To make a LINUX Client!

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Adira Barek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-02-28 20:25:13 UTC
Hello all, well as many of us already know eve online does not have a Linux client yet. Windows Users and Mac users have their clients but not us Linux users. I am Starting this petition for eve to make us a client, So the we can fully enjoy the game without work around like we have to now. We are a very big community of gamers in which help in many ways in the community of Linux. So can I please get every one that wants to sign this petition to post a reply Saying " I Vote Yes to a Linux Client". Thank you every one for your time and consideration. Safe FlyingAttention
Elegbara
White Wolf Enterprises
Harmonious Ascent
#2 - 2012-02-28 20:47:56 UTC
Uh. No?

I'd vote for "Testing with wine" and/or "Hiring a dedicated Linux programmer to fix bugs in wine which hinder eve". But not another wine distribution bundled with eve client, thank you.

Open your eyes. And awaken.

Adira Barek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-02-28 20:49:57 UTC
I can understand every ones fear of this happening in the sense of them messing it up bad and making it more of a problem than a remedy, but isn't that what the Linux development community does we strive for things to be accepted in our way to, Also to help out in anyway we can in these Developments. Windows is a primary operating system Linux is pushed back into the closet and forgot about. I say Give them a chance and one all things have come and they have done there best then make the choice to accept the new client or to throw it away. they have come a long way in many things. lets give them a chance and Give us a chance to truly enjoy the way we choose to compute and game.
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#4 - 2012-02-28 21:07:23 UTC
There was a Linux client before, it wasn't native but used Cedega to wrap the Windows client.

Premium graphics weren't supported in the Linux client, so no one used it (to get premium graphics, they ran the Windows Premium client under Wine). This led to Linux support being dropped about 3 years ago.

The existing Mac client is not native but uses a similar wrapper solution. A truly NATIVE Linux client would require all of the DirectX programming to be converted to OpenGL and that's not likely to happen.
Adira Barek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-28 21:11:25 UTC
Well weather they mack a all native Linux client to do as your post describes im on board for ither
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#6 - 2012-02-28 23:28:28 UTC
Better if they just treat current Wine releases as a proper version of Windows to support.

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs

Bent Barrel
#7 - 2012-02-29 09:22:28 UTC
I am with Elegbara on this one ...
Hosedna
FumbleFamily Corp
#8 - 2012-02-29 09:40:17 UTC
Same for me !
Katrina Bekers
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-02-29 11:04:26 UTC
It's again the "ask for a native client" period of the year?

If the result is anywhere near what the original CCP Linux client, then please no. Asking them to rewrite the graphic codepath for OpenGL instead of DirectX is frankly asking too much.

The best we can do is to keep nudging the devs into unofficially testing the client against current WINE, but that's it.

I'd vote for a "best effort" request to CCP to include a way to identify a Windows client running under WINE, so to be able to be counted as linux users. A settings option, a config keyword, some code to fetch WINE registry keys (but be known that's an unreliable method, deprecated by WINE devs), whatever.

<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>

Zaaark Quasar
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-02-29 23:01:31 UTC
Linux is future, CCP should be part of it.
Zaaark Quasar
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-29 23:02:29 UTC
Elegbara wrote:
Uh. No?

I'd vote for "Testing with wine" and/or "Hiring a dedicated Linux programmer to fix bugs in wine which hinder eve". But not another wine distribution bundled with eve client, thank you.

Wine is crap, and always will be. Also in future there will not be need for Wine, since Windows is down. Touche.
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#12 - 2012-03-04 20:46:40 UTC
Actually, they should target Wine as their primary Windows target. Then they'd have optimum compatability with all platforms with only a single build ;)

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs

Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#13 - 2012-03-06 00:55:02 UTC
Zaaark Quasar wrote:

Also in future there will not be need for Wine, since Windows is down. Touche.


Wouldn't you agree that if Windows is down there would be even more need for wine because of all the legacy win32 software you couldn't use anymore like old games and stuff?
Katrina Bekers
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-03-06 09:42:13 UTC
Zaaark Quasar wrote:
since Windows is down

In what parallel universe?

Sure not in ours.

<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>

Dawiid BenAimaic
Dasa Fern Valley Jamaican Rum Transport Corp
#15 - 2012-03-13 17:18:20 UTC
I have an old Windows XP box with 2GB of ram and a quad core Linux box with 8GB of ram. I would like to run Eve on my new machine so YES for Linux.

Be nice if there were a sticky at the top with instructions for installing on Linux. Be nice if the person maintaining that sticky actually worked for CCP.
Rammix
TheMurk
#16 - 2012-03-14 02:42:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Rammix
Katrina Bekers wrote:
It's again the "ask for a native client" period of the year?
The best we can do is to keep nudging the devs into unofficially testing the client against current WINE, but that's it.

I agree. For the present day that would be good enough.
At this moment, we (linux users) just need access to CQ. Except CQ (game crashes on entering it) everything's working fine.
Though, I think it would be great if CCP asked WINE developers' cooperation, maybe even under NDA. RollBig smile For the sake of both EVE and Linux.
Like someone said, Linux is the future.

p.s.: 2 Dawiid BenAimaic
Search for 'eve online' at http://appdb.winehq.org
There is plenty of information on how to make EVE run under WINE. That site + Google (or whatever you use) are enough to solve most issues. Cool

OpenSUSE Leap 42.1, wine >1.9

Covert cyno in highsec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=296129&find=unread

Darkpepper
Lost World Compagny
#17 - 2012-03-14 07:44:45 UTC
We do not need a native version, Eve seems to use DX and VCRun so a linux version would just mean : rewrite the game.

No, but if CCP just take a day before each new release to test EVE under Wine/POL/Cedega whatever and POST the solution to make it run... it would be great.

All what we can do here is to guess what is going wrong .. maybe we have to change this DLL for the native one... ? ... or not ?

But CCP has the source and is able to test and understand what's going on very quickly...

There are a lot of linux users playing Eve

I think, It's not a lot of time to spend :

-Adding a "under linux" test to the bench
-Posting a methodology

Straight

**W**ormhole space, **L**inux Mint, **F**ree cookies

Kuroi Aurgnet
Cry Of Death
Almost Underdogs
#18 - 2012-03-17 19:01:01 UTC
I KNOW! they should make eve open source and let linux users recode it for linux!

trolling aside, it would be nice if they could do SOMETHING for the linux community because i feel like it might increase their player base a little bit. The problem here is its just one more thing that we ALL know CCP is too lazy to do, if you look at their track record. You might be better off begging the makers of WINE to rebuild WINE in a way that it would support games better, because you'll get the same effect. But in all seriousness, my troll idea up there is a decent one in a way that if they have a team of people willing to do it, then they should just have that team of people sign some contract saying they wont steal data and let THEM do it....


incoherent paragraph translated: It would be nice but no one is going to do it

Just that hint of cynicism the world needs now and then.

LordArcher
Red Alpha Strike
#19 - 2012-03-18 00:03:38 UTC
Kuroi Aurgnet wrote:
I KNOW! they should make eve open source and let linux users recode it for linux!


As much as I want to agree with you Kuroi, the reason the don't can be most easily summarised by auto-pilot. If users were allowed to edit the source code then balancing features like the warp in distance on auto-pilot would be gone. I am all for open source and wish there could be a version of EVE that was (I've been dreaming of an open source league of legends for a while!), but that unfortunately breaks the game due to people who would make bots. The bastards! Evil

One simple little change I wish they would make, wouldn't even have to be in the game, simple have a box to state what your primary OS is on your account settings outside of game. This would be relatively simple, just a minor database edit, and would help give them some more appropriate data.
Erika Bronz
Nidaros Fritidsforening
#20 - 2012-03-18 00:49:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Erika Bronz
I support any and all forms of Linux compability. Install from Synaptic would be perfect, however I doubt it will ever happen.

Edit: I would even agree to pay a higher monthly fee for a native client.
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