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Re: Tips for getting gf into Eve?

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Verone
Veto Corp
#21 - 2011-09-23 14:41:34 UTC
Gassto wrote:
I simply cannot play this game unless my girlfirend enjoys it as well...


Get a new Girlfriend. Seriously.

If she can't accept the fact that you'll have differences of interest, and differences of opinion now and again, and doesn't want to give you some time to do your own thing, then she's not worth your time in the first place.

It's pointless trying to get her to play the game if she's not interested in it in the first place, and if she's to the point where she doesn't want you playing if she can't play with you then that's a pretty bad sign.



Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM

senjaya
#22 - 2011-09-23 14:53:09 UTC
Ummm I'd like to intervain/comment. I started playing EVE with my boyfriend so I would actually get to interact with him and get into something that he enjoyed doing. Otherwise I would literally be ignored from the time he would get home from work until he'd go to sleep. He would help me learn a lot at the beginning but then it would get to a point to where he would start playing with everyone else but me and help other female characters and totally shine me on. He would tell me these characters were actually dudes with female alts which I believed because I know that a lot of them are. But it started getting to the point eventually where he was going into low sec corps that he would not allow me in because he knew that I knew no one in game at the time, except players he knew that could scout me through. He would be meeting up with real females in game and chatting it up all night in private rooms. He just left me to play alone and I had been paying the fees every month just to be interacting with him. He started avoiding me in the game and helping these other noobs and long time players, that were actual females. So I'd bite my tongue and started doing my own missions, roamed without a corp. I would contract him my isk per his request, and he would promise to buy me anything I needed in market, which lasted for a very short time. A few times, out of the blue he would ask me if I wanted to help him in his higher lvl missions and I would. Then away he would go again playing with others and buying ships and mods for other players and kicking me to the curb. I finally got bored playing because of course I figured it was disrespectful of him to not help me to learn the skills I needed and how to play better, And my schooling that takes a lot of my RL time. So I quit, for a few months. It consumes his life and he has lost reality, and also I got tired of his disrespecting me in the game in front of other players because I'd ask for some help in game etc. Well, besides him living with me to clear up his massive debts, he got lazy and all he wanted to do was play Eve and chat with the players instead of talking to me at all in RL. Trying to use my generosity to pull him out of debt, he was paying for 3 accounts on his CC every month. I'm sure you might recognize his 3 characters. iNfeck7ed-Bollarus-Pollarus.
Well, I decided that now I have a break from my schooling atm I would start playing again because now we have just recently moved apart, but still seeing each other sometimes, because I felt he was abusing his privileges when I caught him up all night long chatting away with a real female player all night while I was trying to sleep next to him in bed and having to get up early in the morning to work. It got to the point I just gave up trying to sleep and turned to look at the screen to see why he was not shutting down the game and he got very angry with me because I caught him chatting with this girl that he had been chasing around in game for days, trying to convince me it was a guy but I seen enough of the chat to find out that it wasn't. so now he has blocked me from the private chat room that we have always used together and has been chatting with someone in that room that obviously he don't want me to know about or vice versa. Although most the females he is chasing around and catching knows he has/had a gf and that I play sometimes. But they do not care. That just makes them want to play with him and his games against me even more. Anyway, The point to all this is, unless you can totally respect her in game and demand that other female players as well as all players respect your space with her and if you can totally devote a lot of time teaching her as well as playing with her in game and helping her learn and remain patient towards her if she does not catch on as quickly, then I don't think you should push her into playing because it would just create a vice between you 2. Personal experiences in Eve have taught me that you have to allow time for RL as well as your playing time and she will need a lot of your time in game as well, to get her to that point of knowing what to do without asking for your guidance.
But if you really want to have fun playing with her in Eve? Just remember that she is your # 1 buddy in game as well. Sorry for the massive blog comment, but I had to tell you the experience I am going through with and without EVE, but because of Eve, right now. Lol

@~;~~~Senjaya~~~;~@

@~;~~~Senj~~~;~@

Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#23 - 2011-09-23 15:00:29 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
senjaya wrote:
....



This is an epic story.


Don't cheat on your GF in space - or alternately - don't introduce your GF to games with female avatars.

This is like a double morality story all wrapped into one.

Shocked

Where I am.

Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2011-09-23 15:02:15 UTC
senjaya wrote:
Lots of words, but many relevant ones

@~;~~~Senjaya~~~;~@


After reading through your post, Not only did the guy treat you like crap, but he used you. Nobody should have to go through that. Thats the thing with online games. They are great in moderation, but when you become hopelessly addicted, the fun's over, and RL suffers. In his case, he lost you - all for a game.

Gaming isn't worth sacrificing your RL responsibilities. On the flip side, denial of any gaming shows issues in the relationship too. Your ex- sacrificed his RL responsibilities to play EVE, and kicked you to the curb. The OP is holding up their responsibilities, but seems to be conflicted in regards to his EVE-time. Its a fine line to walk, and a line that is also easily crossed.
NeoShocker
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#25 - 2011-09-23 15:25:58 UTC
Wow, quite terrible senjaya. I seen couples and married ones play eve and together very well in my alliance and fro RK days. Strangely almost all of them do industry ones.

Which brings me back on topic.

If you really want your partner to be interested in eve. Do the following:
Get a new GF
Unless you are really commited to this person...
Tell her why exactly you like eve, and why you would like her to play eve. Stuff like sharing interest, do things together on free time, etc. Showing vids and stuff is not a real appropriate way to bring your partner in eve.
Read senjaya' post, dont make those mistakes
Be in a flexible corp. Don't be dual solo in eve.
Decide on a plan on what you can do together, help you and your mate to be richer in eve.
In addition about being rich, make sure its something you and your partner can have FUN, F.U.N. Can't stress this enough.

There are more, but can't think of more atm.
Gassto
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-09-23 15:53:26 UTC
Dr Offensive wrote:
Wife: Did you pick up the ammo and drones we needed at Rens?

Man: Er, I forgot

Wife: FOR GODS SAKE, I ask you to do ONE thing just ONE, and you can't even do that. My mother was right all along you ARE a waste of space. The only reason i'm still with you is that we can't get the carrier sold and split the ISK or else I would have left you a long time ago and started my own corp.....RANT....RAGE...COMPLAIN...MOAN etc.


Hmm yeah sounds like fun




lol this one probably amused her the most.. althought the smack talking sounded the most fun. Also its not that she won't let me play, but seeing as we met in another game I would feel horrible leaving here there to play something else.

we've agreed to have another look at things once WiS arrives properly, thanks for the replys.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#27 - 2011-09-23 16:00:35 UTC
Ok so was I the only person that read thread title as a whine about blobs and gate camps and got a surprise when I read it?
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2011-09-23 16:12:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Digital Messiah
senjaya wrote:


@~;~~~Senjaya~~~;~@

Shocked It is times like these I think, what would my sisters do. And honestly... I am very happy they do not play video games. Though I imagine you would have killed him. Or that is what I expect to happen. Or maybe that is just because I had a lot of women in my life growing up. Either way, revenge from a woman is possibly worse than revenge from anyone else.

Of course I know that you are just waiting for the day to sneak back into his life and completely throw a wrench in it. Heads up to the guys that don't know. Women can wait years to get pay back. Years....

Something clever

Barrak
The Painted Ones
#29 - 2011-09-23 18:12:24 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
My wife hates science fiction, computer games generally, pretty much all the things I love. She watches coronation street, eastenders, emerdale and horrible crap that I hate.

Works out great, I play Eve, she watches rubbish, tehn we go to bed. Perfect.


Can't you browse the internet in CQ?

I've only been in mine once, to turn it off......
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2011-09-23 18:18:20 UTC
senjaya wrote:
[i][i]Ummm I'd like to intervain/comment.

wtf...don't ever do this again.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

CCP Zymurgist
C C P
C C P Alliance
#31 - 2011-09-23 18:29:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Zymurgist
Verone wrote:

Get a new Girlfriend. Seriously.


It's too late for me, I can't get my wife interested in EVE at all. Luckily she hasn't had an issue with my addiction... yet....

So my advice for Gassto is to not force her to play. There are a ton of things to do in EVE and if you let her find them she will enjoy them in her own way. Just remember to help her out with some ISK and hauling shiney things to her. You know, like real life Twisted

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2011-09-23 18:39:46 UTC
Gassto wrote:
This is fairly ambiguous question as everyones different I suppose, but I would LOVE to hear how people got their other halfs interested in playing eve?

1. Chair
2. Rope
3. Duct tape

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#33 - 2011-09-23 18:45:05 UTC
CCP Zymurgist wrote:
Verone wrote:

Get a new Girlfriend. Seriously.


It's too late for me, I can't get my wife interested in EVE at all. Luckily she hasn't had an issue with my paying the bills by working for a video game company... yet....


fixed that for you Lol
senjaya
#34 - 2011-09-23 18:48:43 UTC

....



This is an epic story.


Don't cheat on your GF in space - or alternately - don't introduce your jealous paranoid GF to games with female avatars.

This is like a double morality story all wrapped into one.



Hmmm was I just imagining things, or did anyone else see them claws pop out? Ugh

@~;~~~Senj~~~;~@

Greygal
Redemption Road
Affirmative.
#35 - 2011-09-23 19:06:10 UTC
In general, to get us rl women into Eve, you have to realize that what attracts us to a game is not the same thing that attracts you men.

In a nutshell: men like to destroy and blow stuff up, women like to nurture and create. For most men it's about gaining power over others, for us women it's about gaining consensus and cooperation between others.

Including myself, my corp has seven women in it (and 53 men). All of us enjoy the industrial and market side of Eve far more than any of the guys - hey, we're women! We love to shop! And we love the idea of a place that is ours, a home we can build, decorate (granted, our decoration is generally limited to how we lay out pos guns), protect and call our own. We also tend to be the ones who plan the various escapades our corp finds ourselves in, who organize operations, handle the announcements, mails, bulletins and other communications, keep the pos's fueled, the corp hangers supplied, and more often than not, recruit and handle the diplomatic stuff - whether it's a feud between ego-bruised members or between us and other corps/alliances.

Don't get me wrong - we women enjoy blowing stuff up too, but mostly, we like having a purpose for blowing stuff up. A grand romantic reason, to be more exact! Going into low or null sec just to find a fight is generally not appealing... hunting down someone who attacked a newbie member, or ganked a vet, or attacked our pos... now THAT we get into. The mother bear in us comes out when we feel one of our own has been unjustly harmed - and we women warriors can be most fierce, indeed, when you **** us off.

What attracted women I know to this game is the grand romance of it all. Space is romantic. The stars, the nebulae, the vastness of it all... fighting to survive in a harsh and cruel universe that really doesn't give a crap about you, doing so side-by-side with your friends and family, against overwhelming odds finding success or eking out survival, but doing it together, because that togetherness is what keeps us in the game.

Want more women in Eve? Emphasis the social - in particular, the cooperative nature of Eve. Let new women players in your corp plan the parties, organize the supplies, recruit, meet-and-greet. Show us the markets and the industrial side, the mining and the exploration - all the best scanners I know are women, we're far more patient Blink

And on the um... perhaps somewhat negative side... show us the underhanded dirty scammy side of Eve. Take advantage of the fact that we can be far more conniving, manipulative, cunning, and downright sneaky than most men - one of the rl women I know in game happens to be one of the best scammers out there, another is one hell of a corporate spy (and thankfully, both are not in my corp!)

But most importantly: Never treat your real-live women corp members as if they are fragile, weak, stupid, ignorant or silly. It'll just **** us off and we'll have to hunt you down and blow you up, repeatedly.



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#36 - 2011-09-23 19:07:51 UTC
Pirate another players woman who plays EVE Pirate

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senjaya
#37 - 2011-09-23 19:10:16 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
senjaya wrote:
....



This is an epic story.


Don't cheat on your GF in space - or alternately - don't introduce your jealous paranoid GF to games with female avatars.

This is like a double morality story all wrapped into one.

Shocked





Hmmm was I just imagining things, or did anyone else see them claws pop out?
@~;~~~Senj~~~;~@

It had nothing to do with jealousy. I just did not like having to help him pay his bills while paying the rest of the bills, while he was steady spending, to throw all his time into chasing his fantasies around and I was getting kicked in the face and made his servant girl and all the while never once did I stop him from playing or take anything away from him. I even tried to meet him over half way. You really have no clueAttention Yeah something every good woman should have to go through.Roll

@~;~~~Senj~~~;~@

Jokerface666
Intergalactic Expeditionary Corp
#38 - 2011-09-23 19:13:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jokerface666
Greygal wrote:
In general, to get us rl women into Eve, you have to realize that what attracts us to a game is not the same thing that attracts you men.

In a nutshell: men like to destroy and blow stuff up, women like to nurture and create. For most men it's about gaining power over others, for us women it's about gaining consensus and cooperation between others.

Including myself, my corp has seven women in it (and 53 men). All of us enjoy the industrial and market side of Eve far more than any of the guys - hey, we're women! We love to shop! And we love the idea of a place that is ours, a home we can build, decorate (granted, our decoration is generally limited to how we lay out pos guns), protect and call our own. We also tend to be the ones who plan the various escapades our corp finds ourselves in, who organize operations, handle the announcements, mails, bulletins and other communications, keep the pos's fueled, the corp hangers supplied, and more often than not, recruit and handle the diplomatic stuff - whether it's a feud between ego-bruised members or between us and other corps/alliances.

Don't get me wrong - we women enjoy blowing stuff up too, but mostly, we like having a purpose for blowing stuff up. A grand romantic reason, to be more exact! Going into low or null sec just to find a fight is generally not appealing... hunting down someone who attacked a newbie member, or ganked a vet, or attacked our pos... now THAT we get into. The mother bear in us comes out when we feel one of our own has been unjustly harmed - and we women warriors can be most fierce, indeed, when you **** us off.

What attracted women I know to this game is the grand romance of it all. Space is romantic. The stars, the nebulae, the vastness of it all... fighting to survive in a harsh and cruel universe that really doesn't give a crap about you, doing so side-by-side with your friends and family, against overwhelming odds finding success or eking out survival, but doing it together, because that togetherness is what keeps us in the game.

Want more women in Eve? Emphasis the social - in particular, the cooperative nature of Eve. Let new women players in your corp plan the parties, organize the supplies, recruit, meet-and-greet. Show us the markets and the industrial side, the mining and the exploration - all the best scanners I know are women, we're far more patient Blink

And on the um... perhaps somewhat negative side... show us the underhanded dirty scammy side of Eve. Take advantage of the fact that we can be far more conniving, manipulative, cunning, and downright sneaky than most men - one of the rl women I know in game happens to be one of the best scammers out there, another is one hell of a corporate spy (and thankfully, both are not in my corp!)

But most importantly: Never treat your real-live women corp members as if they are fragile, weak, stupid, ignorant or silly. It'll just **** us off and we'll have to hunt you down and blow you up, repeatedly.



best explanation ever.... would you marry me? :-D

@senjaya -> your own fault, sorry....
senjaya
#39 - 2011-09-23 19:23:04 UTC
But it's all good, because I found some genuine players that are doing for me, what he should have wanted to do for me. I also get treated with more respect from them. They ask nothing of me in return, but to have fun and not to betray them. Which some ppl have no problem doing. I, on the other hand would never bite the hand that feeds me. In game or R L.

@~;~~~Senj~~~;~@

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#40 - 2011-09-23 19:23:18 UTC
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
If she doesn't want to play EVE, let her not play EVE.

If she doesn't want you to play EVE, dump her.


This.

Seriously

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