EVE General Discussion

Funny - I started an alt I afk train to have some fun later this year and I came up with a basic skillplan I am currently training that gives the char decent fitting, support, drone and gunnery support skills before training any specific ship or gunnery skills.

It's far from being all V, includes no drones bigger than t2 scouts, no ewar, RR/energy transfer skills or subsystems - just a reasonable plan for a future frig/cruiser pilot.

The plan ends at around 21 mill SP, which is when I start to train some basic frigs and guns.

I'm not recommending doing that for newbs and yes - you can be effective with really low SP, but the funny bit is that the op feels his eve-life is ending at 20 mill SP because he's seen it all, whereas my alts eve life just starts at that number.

QFT

5/10? More like 10/10, this crap has been going on for 5 pages and OP never even posted a second response

I don't know. I think it accidentally turned into a nice “what can you do with your SP” discussion, ruining the troll somewhat.

[quote=Haulin Gneiss]cosmos missions: 84% don
Lvl 4s. mastere
Exploration missions: don
Mining missions: don

Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators.

Can fly most ships under carrier. check.

SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys.

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If you get tired of eve, then you know nothing about eve! I been playing for 5 years, theres still a lot left to do. You need to stop asking for your hand to be held every step of the way in the game by the missions. Do pvp and be somebody

When you can think outside the box and be whatever you want then you can have the most fun in this game. I use to solo pirate in lowsec and small gang pirate for most of 2011, lived in w-space too mostly for the pvp. Was the most fun I had in the game. Wish I had more time to but real life gets in the way. But that just makes months of training time go faster and makes me more isk faster in a way. I build and trade. I haven't touched a mission in 2 years and I have ten's of billions

Your giving up prematurely on eve when you have nothing. I have like 83 million sp and have mastered most sub caps on every race. That means specialization on every weapon at 4 everything else on level 5, tanking is all maxed out to what matters, I have over 20 million sp in just ships. But I have about 30 million sp in all weapon systems to back it up with as well as tank and core skills. There is so much for you to do still. The best part of eve is pvp, too bad you don't do that. The game is pvp driven. Once you find a role for yourself the game will be so much more fun

I chose a path on the dark side of the force.

Why have I been playing eve for 5 years? Because there is always something new to do, always a new goal to get to, and always something new added into the game.

If you can't play eve for free by now, your doing it all wrong. Eve is free for me. I have nothing to complain about. I don't pay a sub while I become more skilled in ships. I also have flied most ship in the game into pvp. I am not the best by far, there are 5000 people who are better then me who have 10,000 kills. I just have a little over 1000, but you could be somebody one day too just like that

After college I will prob play eve like I use to. lol Until then I become richer! XD

EVE is a sandbox, 20mil SP is a good time to leave highsec and jump into said sandbox.

Try some pvp, if you dont like wspace then try lowsec piracy, or FW, or maybe find a less srs bsns null alliance (not all null alliances are the srs bsns type), hell maybe even try wardeccing some mission runner corps

So part of me is impressed at the professionalism of the vets that posted a " you can do it" attitude. Shite can you haters.

My vent was more for the lack of compelling high sec content to bridge the player to more complex play styles involving low/null encroachments. Recent I threw my tenge to the wind and hit null space for some looksee and liked the experience. Thanks for the posts and feedback.

sitting on 50m skillpoints and cannot think of one ship I can fly perfectly, never mind "most ships" LOL, having skillpoints in spaceship command means nothing

Epic Mission Arcs
Pirate Mission Arcs
Incursions
Trading
Manufacturing
Contract whoring
Salvaging
Griefing


and more importantly , the 50 things I havent though of and you could, it's a sandbox, make castles of your own... or find 50 other guys and go to Null and mess up someone elses

hrm believe OP is troll - check
enjoyed other comments regarding individual experience with SP - check!

Experience makes a huge difference, I started a combat alt and he's already flying better than my main toon could at that point, simply because I knew how to concentrate on his skills, and what I'd decided to try out, etc. My first toon has 34mil and skills all over the damn place. Which'll prolly be great when I decide wtf I want to do with him! But really hinders overall.

oh yeah and to feed the troll: PI :P

I've always said that introducing a ranked pvp system gives a game +50% on retaining old players.