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T2 salvage and loot tables....
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Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#1 - 2012-03-17 13:52:49 UTC
As we know the drop rates for Intact Plates and a couple of other high priced salvage items have increased, thus bringing the prices down.

But...

It seems some of the lower valued items are now rising sharply, are these lower priced items actually gonna become the new IAP and jump up to 30m etc?

It makes interesting viewing, especially as someone has totally bought up a few of these items.

:TINFOILHATMODE:

The CSM and the super powers with people on the inside are stocking up now in preparation for a sharp increase in prices because they know the new drop rate means for these items there are reduced drops.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#2 - 2012-03-17 16:53:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Skydell
I'm not sure what ones are spiking. I've been tracking T2 salvage for a very long time. Everything seems in line in Jita anyway.

I don't use any kind of spreadsheet, uber perfect methods. I just check daily, keep mental notes and while it's not super efficient or going to help me "win EVE" it gets the job done. More to your point though,

If there was a buyout, these are the options I can think of -

- Someone saw a chance to corner the market and did
- Someone got info on a patch
- Someone noticed with the last shuffle of belt rats, T2 spawns took a dive

The thing right now is, aside from small astronautics rigs there aren't any that I would say justify the cost. PvP ships are going to die, we have all come to accept that so anything below a capital doesn't justify a T2 rig even at cheaper rates. That leaves PvE fits and they all still require 20 mill plus in parts to make. While supply is up, right now there is still no demand for T2 rigs or salvage as a result.

If this was an insider info trade, summer expack is coming. Nothing is impossible.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#3 - 2012-03-18 00:34:12 UTC
Herman Klaus wrote:
As we know the drop rates for Intact Plates and a couple of other high priced salvage items have increased, thus bringing the prices down.

But...

It seems some of the lower valued items are now rising sharply, are these lower priced items actually gonna become the new IAP and jump up to 30m etc?

It makes interesting viewing, especially as someone has totally bought up a few of these items.

:TINFOILHATMODE:

The CSM and the super powers with people on the inside are stocking up now in preparation for a sharp increase in prices because they know the new drop rate means for these items there are reduced drops.


Intelligent question, Yet, I still grapple onto my tinfoil hat.
Lord Jita
Lord Jita's Big Gay Corp
#4 - 2012-03-18 02:34:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Jita
YES I have noticed this, have been very perplexed. I was sure after crucible the prices would drop across the board due to the "increased salvage from t2 wrecks" patch note, but the opposite has largely happened. Power circuits have jumped from 1m to almost 6m. I had a large stock of current pumps I dumped at 30k, and now they are up to 118k. I really am at a loss of what is going on.

Well maybe its just that due to incursion more people have ISK to spend on T2 rigs. And intact plate drop due to the supercarrier nerf so less demand.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#5 - 2012-03-18 03:18:07 UTC
Lord Jita wrote:
YES I have noticed this, have been very perplexed. I was sure after crucible the prices would drop across the board due to the "increased salvage from t2 wrecks" patch note, but the opposite has largely happened. Power circuits have jumped from 1m to almost 6m. I had a large stock of current pumps I dumped at 30k, and now they are up to 118k. I really am at a loss of what is going on.

Well maybe its just that due to incursion more people have ISK to spend on T2 rigs. And intact plate drop due to the supercarrier nerf so less demand.


First of all, I love your Avatar. It just makes me smile, haha.

This a very valid point. Capacitor Console's have remained high but IAP and the T2 shield ones have definately dropped. Might be SC Nerf related. Still, the jump on some of the lower items is quite substantial.
Maeste Madeveda
The Spawning Pool
#6 - 2012-03-18 11:02:55 UTC
What if people realized that T2 rigs aren't that bad if you can afford it.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#7 - 2012-03-19 09:17:35 UTC
Well it looks like someone bought up all the cheap stock from elsewhere in eve and dumped it in Jita. Back to civilised prices now. Still an increase on 4 weeks ago tho. missile and drone rigs are going ro rise noticeably.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#8 - 2012-03-27 21:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Herman Klaus
UPDATE:

Another jump in price across a few items. Buy prices up 10-15% on a couple of them. Noticing the amount available on the market isn't enough to satisfy daily demand. Defo been a shift in drop tables.

The shiny flying carebears will notice the most over time.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#9 - 2012-03-29 05:07:51 UTC
Herman Klaus wrote:
UPDATE:

Another jump in price across a few items. Buy prices up 10-15% on a couple of them. Noticing the amount available on the market isn't enough to satisfy daily demand. Defo been a shift in drop tables.

The shiny flying carebears will notice the most over time.


Micro Circuits
Logic Circuits
ANN's?
That would be me.

Medium Particle Dispersion Projector II

Extends Ewar optimals to 70 km for a Lachesis 103 km for Pilgrim and Curse, respective to thier ewar.

That means you can put a gun boat at 45% tracking speed and keep your tactical Logi off the primary list. Nothing to do with carebears Smile
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#10 - 2012-03-29 12:28:58 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Herman Klaus wrote:
UPDATE:

Another jump in price across a few items. Buy prices up 10-15% on a couple of them. Noticing the amount available on the market isn't enough to satisfy daily demand. Defo been a shift in drop tables.

The shiny flying carebears will notice the most over time.


Micro Circuits
Logic Circuits
ANN's?
That would be me.

Medium Particle Dispersion Projector II

Extends Ewar optimals to 70 km for a Lachesis 103 km for Pilgrim and Curse, respective to thier ewar.

That means you can put a gun boat at 45% tracking speed and keep your tactical Logi off the primary list. Nothing to do with carebears Smile



And there is that too. you evil bunny
Mathias Hex
#11 - 2012-03-30 00:18:46 UTC
Lord Jita wrote:
YES I have noticed this, have been very perplexed. I was sure after crucible the prices would drop across the board due to the "increased salvage from t2 wrecks" patch note, but the opposite has largely happened. Power circuits have jumped from 1m to almost 6m. I had a large stock of current pumps I dumped at 30k, and now they are up to 118k. I really am at a loss of what is going on.

Well maybe its just that due to incursion more people have ISK to spend on T2 rigs. And intact plate drop due to the supercarrier nerf so less demand.


Well hello there little pup! Have you been outcathst?

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#12 - 2012-04-01 21:58:46 UTC
Interface Circuits
Power Circuits
Logic Circuits

All flying up in price. There was a levelling out when people dumped their stocks but we're past that now and onto the next spike. Too late to invest?
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#13 - 2012-04-02 02:05:57 UTC
I don't think it's a demand spike, I think the supply is in decline. I asked twice and got 0 replies about the RnG on Elite spawns after they shuffled the way rats spawn.

While they seemed to have fixed the bottleneck on Cap consoles and Intact stuff, they have crushed the PvE method of getting T2 salvage. It might have been allocated to PvP reward goods meaning that these things are all about to go rare. True Sansha, Domination, Shadow Serpentis, Dark Blood and Dread Guristas are still in the game but they are no where near where they used to be in spawning. The only other place to get T2 salvage is player wrecks.

I'm just speculating because as I said, no reply was given when I asked about the 95% drop in Elite spawns ratio.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#14 - 2012-04-02 12:04:59 UTC
I've noticed this actually. Plus when I've found elite spawns, the salvage has been rubbish.

So CCP have fixed a bottleneck by creating another. standard stuff then!
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#15 - 2012-04-03 19:46:14 UTC
Most bottlenecks right now is market saturation and lack of market saturation. Many of the parts are universal, many are core. The saturations are there due to low demand. Looking at calibration cost, looking at the ships the rigs are suited to, T2 rigs are just not mainstream and I don't think CCP wanted them to be with all the pre-nerfs in place.

It's a high end, niche market and I guess if I am going to enter it I need to deal with that.
Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
#16 - 2012-04-04 10:00:44 UTC
Someone mentioned a thing about the Drone Matriarchs (or one of those drone bosses ... idk, never do drone anoms myself) no longer dropping T2 salvage after a recent patch and that Power Circuits were one of the most common salvage drops up until that patch. Considering how, uh, 'dedicated' the harvesters of all things drone in certain regions were, they kept power circuit prices nice and agreeable.

On the bright side, at least Serpentis mag sites aren't completely worthless anymore.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#17 - 2012-04-04 13:19:53 UTC
I found my first Shadow in a .7 belt since the shuffle and he dropped a Power Circuit ironicly enough. So they are still in the belts, it's just a matter of figuring out what ratting patterns they want from us now. I never really figured out the reason why those spiked but that's as good a reason as any. As I said in another thread, these things are never rare as you can take any Interceptor under 14 mill, insure it and jet it in to space with a carrier and pop it with drones for the salvage and make ISK from it. The fact that nobody is doing it simply says there is no demand for t2 rigs. Due to penalty, due to calibration restrictions, due to steep diminishing returns on the bonus and on some, due to cost. The point is, they aren't popular.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#18 - 2012-04-04 14:11:38 UTC
Skydell wrote:
I found my first Shadow in a .7 belt since the shuffle and he dropped a Power Circuit ironicly enough. So they are still in the belts, it's just a matter of figuring out what ratting patterns they want from us now. I never really figured out the reason why those spiked but that's as good a reason as any. As I said in another thread, these things are never rare as you can take any Interceptor under 14 mill, insure it and jet it in to space with a carrier and pop it with drones for the salvage and make ISK from it. The fact that nobody is doing it simply says there is no demand for t2 rigs. Due to penalty, due to calibration restrictions, due to steep diminishing returns on the bonus and on some, due to cost. The point is, they aren't popular.


Rich kids with too much ISK will always want more shiny bits on their fail fit ships.
Yamadori
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-04-06 20:02:40 UTC
and now interface circuits
wth is up
Yamadori
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-04-08 21:34:39 UTC
Holy fukc prices are totally out of wack now. Not only interface circuits and logic circuits.

I 'm wondering why this doesn't gather more attention. I have have to assume everyone involved is playing their cards close to their chest.
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