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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2012-03-17 07:45:24 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
I'm genuinely sad. I had hoped there was a goon worthy of serious respect... (besides Mittens)

We're all mittens, we have no individual will, anyone seem to remember this being mentioned?

I heard it on Jita Park, it must be true.

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#22 - 2012-03-17 07:49:15 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
I'm genuinely sad. I had hoped there was a goon worthy of serious respect... (besides Mittens)

We're all mittens, we have no individual will, anyone seem to remember this being mentioned?

I heard it on Jita Park, it must be true.


I was once a bee and it was a fine thing to be!

I will never disagree with someone that chooses the hive over other lives in Eve.

Whatever makes Eve enough fun to pay the subscription is a valid path in Eve!

Issler Dainze
Understanding the freedom of joining a hive mind
The Not the Hive Mind CSM 7 Candidate!
Clyde ElectraGlide
Emara Entertainment Inc.
#23 - 2012-03-17 08:14:14 UTC
I'm from the Center for Advanced Studies and I operate mostly in empire, so Mittens obviously doesn't represent the part of the game I play. I still voted for him though.

I'm willing to put my playstyle aside to vote for someone that produces results and acts in a professional manner as he does. Not to mention bothering to make a Q&A thread where constituent issues can be answered by the man himself, and setting up a Skype channel as a means of direct communication between the CSM and CCP. Can other CSMs claim to be that innovative?

There are other candidates I'd like to see up there, namely Hans, Seleene, Meissa and Two step. But Mittens is the one that really needs to be there. I've read the other serious candidate's threads, and while some of them really do know their stuff, they wouldn't play as much as a vital part in the CSM process that Mittani does. Crucible was a great expansion/release, and we need someone that can see to it that Eve maintains this direction, and I couldn't think of anyone better to do that than Mittens.

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Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-03-17 09:26:56 UTC
mittani is one of few eve players that has considerable out-of-game exposure and subsequent popularity and following among your average internet pilot

like i can't think of anyone else from the game that has been interviewed by RPS

he's a much more sympathetic figure than people who mine ice all day
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#25 - 2012-03-17 09:35:47 UTC
Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:
I'm from the Center for Advanced Studies and I operate mostly in empire, so Mittens obviously doesn't represent the part of the game I play. I still voted for him though.

I'm willing to put my playstyle aside to vote for someone that produces results and acts in a professional manner as he does. Not to mention bothering to make a Q&A thread where constituent issues can be answered by the man himself, and setting up a Skype channel as a means of direct communication between the CSM and CCP. Can other CSMs claim to be that innovative?

There are other candidates I'd like to see up there, namely Hans, Seleene, Meissa and Two step. But Mittens is the one that really needs to be there. I've read the other serious candidate's threads, and while some of them really do know their stuff, they wouldn't play as much as a vital part in the CSM process that Mittani does. Crucible was a great expansion/release, and we need someone that can see to it that Eve maintains this direction, and I couldn't think of anyone better to do that than Mittens.


So basically a goon alt,

Gotcha..

Issler
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#26 - 2012-03-17 09:38:01 UTC
Berke Negri wrote:
mittani is one of few eve players that has considerable out-of-game exposure and subsequent popularity and following among your average internet pilot

like i can't think of anyone else from the game that has been interviewed by RPS

he's a much more sympathetic figure than people who mine ice all day


RPS, hmmm, Ive presented at major game developer conferences... but sure. thanks for sharing how he got your vote.

Issler
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-03-17 09:48:47 UTC
Berke Negri wrote:
mittani is one of few eve players that has considerable out-of-game exposure and subsequent popularity and following among your average internet pilot


Based on last years votes less than 2.5% of your "average" pilot. Such amazing popularity. Roll

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#28 - 2012-03-17 09:54:19 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Berke Negri wrote:
mittani is one of few eve players that has considerable out-of-game exposure and subsequent popularity and following among your average internet pilot


Based on last years votes less than 2.5% of your "average" pilot. Such amazing popularity. Roll


The candidate strongly preferred by the margin of error! Lol

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
Studied Statistics!
CSM 7 Candidate
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-03-17 10:01:32 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Berke Negri wrote:
mittani is one of few eve players that has considerable out-of-game exposure and subsequent popularity and following among your average internet pilot

like i can't think of anyone else from the game that has been interviewed by RPS

he's a much more sympathetic figure than people who mine ice all day


RPS, hmmm, Ive presented at major game developer conferences... but sure. thanks for sharing how he got your vote.

Issler

were you asked to present at major game developer conferences to talk about spending all your free time refining minerals in hi-sec
Kai Tel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-03-17 10:02:44 UTC
If nothing else, the goons are well organized on the official forums and it gives them a political edge both with fellow pilots and Devs that might be swayed reading posts for insight into player desires. Candidates for CSM with agendas not popular with them have taken a bit of a lashing this year. Not enough of the player base respects the CSM in such a way as to care about what happens as they have been a joke in past years. Things are slowly changing. I am trusting CCP to see through the smoke and mirror play where needed and hoping that they have a solid vision for the game's future development in spite of what a minority voice allowed power will clamor for.

My problem in reading you right now, OP, is that your confidence seems to be cracking and maybe you are letting this little internet space ship game bother you too much on a personal level. It's just a crooked player election for a small MMO committee. It’s not fair. It’s also not a reflection on you or your life in spite of what the attack dogs might say. It’s just a mean little game. Keep your perspective

To be honest, I haven’t let anything the goons do bother me. Our interests do not currently coincide. I play ball in a different part of the game. I was never going to vote for them or a candidate they strongly support anyway.
Doctor Eezee
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-03-17 11:10:25 UTC
Kai Tel wrote:
If nothing else, the goons are well organized on the official forums.



Yes, organized is definitely the first word that comes to mind when I think about us posting on these forums.

On a serious note:
What's with all the conspiracy talk about goons? We are neither organized on these forums nor are we required to vote for anyone. Of course it's encouraged to vote for our CEO, but nobody is forcing anyone and nobody is getting kicked out of the alliance for not voting.

It's amazing how delusional people get in this game.

Pretty much everyting we are doing is because we like to have fun and posting **** in this catastrophe of a forum. To put it in the words of my hero Ron Swanson:

Quote:
I came here for the same reason people go to the zoo.

"My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#32 - 2012-03-17 11:11:46 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:

People who are open minded about that see him as incredibly effective at getting CCP management to listen to players' needs, particularly the needs of players in null. Effectiveness is more important than just about anything else, because the CSM is not about advancing your cause over other players' causes so much as it is about getting CCP to give the players what they want rather than what CCP management thinks they want. Effectiveness comes from diplomacy, having a clear set of priorities, and knowing who to befriend at CCP (basically the hard working devs who've been giving us a great game when the upper management let them).


THIS!

I am an industrialist in Eve. I build stuff for other people to blow up. I spend a lot of time poring over spreadsheets, working out profitabilty projections and doing logistics. I like doing this, that is why I do it.

That doesn't mean I am 'blind' or 'afraid' of the other side of EvE, which is loots and lots of Pew pew, rage, scams, dirty deals, suicide ganks, tears and whatnot. All of this is Eve. Without it, Eve would be a dull game without challenges, just jumping through yet more hoops some devs came up with for you to get your cookie, like sooo many MMO's out there.

Last year, I voted for Mittens, because instead of silly promises as 'I'm going to introduce this and this', he promised that he was going to be effective, and that he would make CCP listen in general to it's playerbase, and point out things in their ideas that were blatantly wrong. He delivered on this promise in no small amount. ( I've even sent him a thankyou mail about this :) )

While I will certainly not deny that if he can get away with it, I'm sure he will slip in a thing here or there that will profit his goons, I do believe that Mittens the CSM El Presidente is a good thing for Eve. That is why I voted for him again this year. Not because he's a goon, but because he can deliver, and he brings significant improvement to Eve as a whole.


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Frying Doom
#33 - 2012-03-17 11:12:24 UTC
Kai Tel wrote:
If nothing else, the goons are well organized on the official forums and it gives them a political edge both with fellow pilots and Devs that might be swayed reading posts for insight into player desires. Candidates for CSM with agendas not popular with them have taken a bit of a lashing this year. Not enough of the player base respects the CSM in such a way as to care about what happens as they have been a joke in past years. Things are slowly changing. I am trusting CCP to see through the smoke and mirror play where needed and hoping that they have a solid vision for the game's future development in spite of what a minority voice allowed power will clamor for.

My problem in reading you right now, OP, is that your confidence seems to be cracking and maybe you are letting this little internet space ship game bother you too much on a personal level. It's just a crooked player election for a small MMO committee. It’s not fair. It’s also not a reflection on you or your life in spite of what the attack dogs might say. It’s just a mean little game. Keep your perspective

To be honest, I haven’t let anything the goons do bother me. Our interests do not currently coincide. I play ball in a different part of the game. I was never going to vote for them or a candidate they strongly support anyway.


Hell The CSM has been brought down by the null sec groups, it is just an object of ridicule and shame now. Lets face it how much attention would you pay to your government if it started spouting utter crap and wasn't actually spending your money.

As to CCP I also hope they have a better future planned for this game than the one the CSM seems to have, or we will all be playing spaceship pvp, the game and that's about it.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-03-17 11:17:24 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Hell The CSM has been brought down by the null sec groups, it is just an object of ridicule and shame now.


Have you been reading your history books backwards
Frying Doom
#35 - 2012-03-17 11:18:29 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Hell The CSM has been brought down by the null sec groups, it is just an object of ridicule and shame now.


Have you been reading your history books backwards

CSM 5 was when the CSM started to shine now its just a joke. Pure and simple.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-03-17 11:24:37 UTC
didn't someone on CSM5 throw a spoon at a dev
Frying Doom
#37 - 2012-03-17 11:28:33 UTC
Berke Negri wrote:
didn't someone on CSM5 throw a spoon at a dev

Quite probably but I don't know for sure, they were kind of pissed at how CCP treated them at the start. Its kind of strange if you think about it, every CSM I have seen disses the one before it but the current CSM only has the ability to do what they do because of the hard work of the previous CSM.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-03-17 11:39:19 UTC
for a joke of a csm at least no one from CSM6 has thrown spoons
Groperson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-03-17 11:55:42 UTC
Seriously if you think the current CSM is less powerful and respected than the 'spoonthrowers' of CSM 5 then I don't know what to say except ~laffo~
Frying Doom
#40 - 2012-03-17 11:58:13 UTC
Groperson wrote:
Seriously if you think the current CSM is less powerful and respected than the 'spoonthrowers' of CSM 5 then I don't know what to say except ~laffo~

Less respected Yes. Less powerful No. They owe the ability to do anything to the previous CSM's and CCP's stupidity with the Summer of rage.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!