EVE General Discussion

If person wants that players quit EVE, and openly writes that, and wants that some changes are not included because less players would quit EVE, I'll will, with all right, accuse him/her that he/she wants to kill EVE.

Just read his post that i quoted before.

And from that post you can also find some indications of n4zism.
If he wants to purge all people that are not by his standards and by this he wants improve playerbase. AND calling this natural selection... you get my point.

See :18 months:

WIS is not understaffed at all if CCP does not have a plan yet for providing meaningful and compelling game play.




PCU numbers have actually been increasing since Dec of last year, see here Linky



I did not make that argument so I don't know who you are directing your rebuttal at.



WIS (or Ambulation) could definitely be a big part of that. But, not until CCP has a tangible, workable, deliverable plan they can execute that provides meaningful and compelling gameplay affecting the entire player base. Until then, there is no need whatsoever to put more Devs or resources into WIS then we have now. Mini-games, clothes, and bars are not meaningful or compelling content, and that seems to be the majority of content that is being proposed here.

as long option C doesn,t have aurum or other failNEX payment and doesn,t cost me extra money ,bc CCP made that promise along with a great Vid back then ,you got +1

otherwise gtfo sorry ,but anything failNEX related should be banned from the game.
WIS and NEX together in 1 sentence is a horrible idea,so remove NEX
NEX gives a bad taste in the mouth ,for WIS/FIS lovers and also the only FIS people

It would be much simpler if ARUM (in EVE) just went away, and we could directly use ISK instead. We already have an available means for CCP to get MT cash in EVE, it's called PLEX, and CCP sells metric ass-loads of them, and players convert the same amount to ISK every day.

No, that is not my point. That is the point you are trying to paint me with; for whatever reason I do not understand. My point is:

(a) Separate servers
(b) Separate, full development team
(c) Separate funding model and separate payment model
(d) Re-using EVE characters (OR Creating New)
(e) More focus on WiS from a WiS team
(f) More focus on FiS from a FiS team

So again, do you feel like apologising now? If you did not understand my original post you can simply ask for clarification. If you do not want to ask on the forum, send me an EVE Mail. I don't have a charge on it. It would certainly make for a more civil conversation than the snarky, lying posts you have been throwing my way.

EDIT: My core belief is in the EVE Universe. Avatars, both in stations, in colonies and so forth form a part of that. The lives of capsuleers, fighting in space and so forth form a part of it. The mercenaries fighting in Dust form a part of it. I think there is scope for a RTS as well, to layer inbetween Dust and EVE. There is room for CCP to focus on distinctive game-types (WiS is a separate game type from EVE) and to focus on them to bring out the best in those game types. But, because they are all set in the EVE Universe they can be made to have meaningful interaction and should have that.

And Doc, well said. It is good to see logical, factual discussion rather than emotive bullshit.[/quote]

And you still don't get what is wrong with having to log off, then log in elsewhere just to stretch our legs. You are asking EVE here, WiS over there, which pretty much kills the whole point of WiS and EVE altogether.

Amazing, still got the same 4 characters trolling this thread.

They keep straddling the fence and say they want WiS yet they continue to post negative replies and attack other players with insulting innuendos and sarcastic remarks.

Look CCP. I just want the option to slap some capsuleers in the face and then hug others.

One thing I would like to stress to CCP is, make movement easier. I don't go into the CQ very often, in fact today was the first time since perhaps last August. Getting my AV to move around and camera controls feel rather awkward and cramped.

I suppose I am used to a more FPS like movement system. Although I find the controls on SL to be not too terribly bad, and the separate camera control is nice too with the Focus, Pan and Rotation controls than can be done there. But SL is not nearly as cramped.

Wis Feels very cramped for the third person view. First person I doubt it would feel very cramped at all, so would like to stress to CCP, allow us to toggle into a first person view and use our mouse and keyboard to get around in an FPS fashion.

If there ever is to be any sort of interaction with Dust Bunnies, those Dust players are not going to want to have to adjust to some sort of awkward third person walking into walls environment. Also , if there ever is to be some sort of pewpew in stations, and let's face it CCP, you know you'd like it one day, then getting the FPS movement done correctly sooner than later is the way to go.

And on side notes, still want gambling, bars, women dressed in skimpy clothing and lots of beer and illegal substances, just don't make us pay Aurum for it :)

There was one idea - something like this, by some guy - in dev blog comments
WiS as f2p or something and you need to buy plex (pilot licence) to fly in eve.
But still it would all be EVE and not separate game.

What i wanted to say, the same client.
So that WiS players can just buy plex/pay subscription and then they can sit in the ship.
And when plex time is run out, you are stuck to station only.