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at 20 mil sp you will lose you way: eve dies
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#61 - 2012-03-12 22:14:57 UTC
Holy **** there are lvl 4 missions? Thanks for pointing out, now I got a goal in Eve again.

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.
Kessiaan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2012-03-13 00:09:05 UTC
I think about 15M was when I decided I didn't want to be a miner anymore.

Best decision I ever made in this game!

ofc with the way mineral prices are going I might actually undock my Hulk for the first time in years.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2012-03-13 00:59:25 UTC
Haulin Gneiss wrote:
cosmos missions: 84% done
Lvl 4s. mastered
Exploration missions: done
Mining missions: done



Like the PVE trailer that recently came out said, mastering PVE isn't end game, if anything it's just the beginning because you've found out a way to efficiently support yourself for what makes EVE EVE, PVP.

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#64 - 2012-03-13 01:39:55 UTC
Haulin Gneiss wrote:
Can fly most ships under carrier. check.


That's odd. I have about 4 times as many SP as you do (you imply 20 million), and I can only fly Caldari ships. Of course I can fly them well. I'm strongly disinclined to fly a ship before I have a hull skill of 5. And I've got my support skillz to 5 too. Just about all of them.

Now I'm maxing out drone skillz, and thinking about trying the Tengu, or Gallente ships. EVE isn't dead for me yet. I haven't been able to play much lately, but thee's plenty left to train for m.
Fishmaskle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2012-03-16 22:47:38 UTC
At 77Mish SP I still have a ton I neeed to learn. Being a jack of all trades hasn't helped any, but stopping short of cap ships and focusing on getting all the ships below researched, the ability to fit them properly, and even branching out into ther other races (minmitar and caldari mostly, don't have a draw to ammar for some reason). You learn new styles, tactics, and things you didn't know you need to research (Damn Specialization skills for each size).

The game offers soo dang much it is unreal and unlike those other games where you hit the skill cap and then just endgame all day, in EVE at 20M to 100M SP, you can have a purpose in PvP as well as make some sort of impact through the entire game, it just takes the right time/place/activity to happen.
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Ur235
Appetite 4 Destruction
#66 - 2012-03-16 23:27:55 UTC
Dude I have 135 million SP's in a pure pvp spec and I cant fly all sub caps so god knows how you can

hmm
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#67 - 2012-03-16 23:41:39 UTC
Ur235 wrote:
Dude I have 135 million SP's in a pure pvp spec and I cant fly all sub caps so god knows how you can


Badly would be my guess

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-03-17 01:25:14 UTC
Haulin Gneiss wrote:
cosmos missions: 84% done
Lvl 4s. mastered
Exploration missions: done
Mining missions: done

Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators.

Can fly most ships under carrier. check.

SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys.

Now...insert forum hounds comments.


What the h... I got a answer try to stop making threats,, like this one again... You have not tast 1/4 of eve you need to learn allot more....

My answer close this threat and a noob or unskilled player is the same i have 150m sp and even i can not do everything i think you need to use the F12 friend for more inf about the game Have you ever try to make a corp running that will be challenge for you with that kind of low sp :) good luck see you in about 3 years how thats done.
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#69 - 2012-03-17 01:48:45 UTC
Obsidian Dagger wrote:
I'm homing in on 60 million SP, and still have not anywhere near mastered everything subcap. Or even most. I can get in a lot of HULLS to be sure, but saying you can fly most everything subcap at 20mill SP is just... Daft.

I think I have more than 20 mill in just ONE racial hull tree at this point, with a LOT of work still to do on everything.

Focus less on choosing hulls, train your support and survivability skills, and spend more than a couple hours doing any one activity before you give up on it!

Also, play in groups, it's an MMO after all. Fleets = fun even if all you do it sit around at a safespot and talk about exotic dancers and the Damsel.


Bolded the pure gold advice.
Support skills and friends.
These sure can and do make the difference.

Nothing clever at this time.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#70 - 2012-03-17 02:20:18 UTC
Ur235 wrote:
Dude I have 135 million SP's in a pure pvp spec and I cant fly all sub caps so god knows how you can

A friend has 140m and can pilot all ships (including industrials) other than titans, though admittedly he isn't an expert in all of them.

It basically came to the point where he had maxed everything in the skills he wanted, and so just trained everything else so that he was training something. He's currently working on all certificates recommended for ships.

He really only uses about 3 ships, and has everything related to those maxed.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#71 - 2012-03-17 02:24:38 UTC
wow

no really.. go play wow, I hear their endgame is stellar...

but seriously.. I don't think I ever heard someone complain that their 20m sp character is out of stuff to do
hell, I don't think I've heard ANYONE complain about lack of endgame in eve at all.

welp, at least you posted something original
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#72 - 2012-03-17 06:30:48 UTC
Apparently you've got covert trolling up to l5.

GZ.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#73 - 2012-03-17 06:48:58 UTC
Khhsss EVE is civilization in space and you are but an actor in a grand drama. Blink

PS3 ---> exit stage left.

Empire, the next new world order.
NeoShocker
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#74 - 2012-03-17 07:09:20 UTC
Haulin Gneiss wrote:
cosmos missions: 84% done
Lvl 4s. mastered
Exploration missions: done
Mining missions: done

Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators.

Can fly most ships under carrier. check.

SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys.

Now...insert forum hounds comments.


From your post, it looks like 80-90% carebearing. Of course you're going to get bored. I'm at 100m+ SP and I still do fun things... By PvPing. There is always something to do since I can do many things in eve. Not bound to just PvP, Industry, and PvE.

Since you're a carebear, might as well train for hulks and mining director skills for leadership? While you're there, you might as well train Orca to put them leadership skills to use. Several ways to improve your carebear whoring. Don't forget Tech III or logistic ships and faction story line.

Or you can quit eve or retire temporarily. I am willing to take your stuff and put them to good use. :)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#75 - 2012-03-17 07:20:10 UTC
NeoShocker wrote:
Or you can quit eve or retire temporarily. I am willing to take your stuff and put them to good use. :)

I'm sure he spends lots of time in Jita and will double your isk.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#76 - 2012-03-17 07:22:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
St Mio wrote:
PvP?


This. You haven't even mentioned the core of EVE, OP.

35m SP and not even close to thinking EVE is "dead" to me. Also, you DEFINITELY were not flying those ships well at 15m. At 35m I can fly maybe 1/3rd of the subcaps well.
Xarrg
Crushed Ambitions
#77 - 2012-03-17 08:27:56 UTC
This game is boring as hell.
You have to make your own goals to make it fun someway.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#78 - 2012-03-17 09:45:06 UTC
with 20m sp you do not have even decent skills for rifter so how your game can be done?
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-03-17 10:12:55 UTC
20m sp is kinda meh for the game. You're on the cusp of having much more flexibility pertaining to ships you can use, roles you can fulfill. With that said...

Could I offer you the opportunity to try w-space again? I can offer you a cooperative experience in w-space. While I'm not keen on giving away the kitchen sink in the form of roles that circumvent good security practices, I do go to extraordinary lengths to support my members' goals. So, if you might be interested, please Eve-mail me.

Don't ban me, bro!
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#80 - 2012-03-17 10:22:02 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Erin Sil wrote:
82mil sp here and I still cannot fly half the ships Eve has to offer.
Pff. N00b. Blink

193 / 250 ships at a similar SP level.

146 ships @ 120M SP
174 ships @ 118M SP
173 ships @ 116M SP
16 ships @ 13M SP

I'm clearly doing it wrong

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