EVE General Discussion

Hey Darth. I still have your vote from back in last spring where you voted against the agreements.
Do you remember that? *grins*

Does anyone else think, if they just removed the cruiser side of NCNs completely, that assaults would be much more in line?

Not fixed entirely, I mean....just much, much better.

Nerf hi-sec payouts.

Or nerf concord in affected constellations so it can be tanked/killed.

200mil per hour in perfect safety is ridiculous

i smell a.......TROLL!!!!! kill it!!!

you be lucky if you are able to do 100mill an hour with a good fleet as crowded as the incursion sites are.

100mil/hour is NOT sustainable. People leave, sites get contested, and after 60 or so people in a vanguard system the sites start getting finished faster than they can respawn. Also, if you have a problem with people pulling 100mil/hour by banding together, you must also hate people who can pull 60-70 an hour on their own in lvl 4s yeh?

suggestions


bounties on every single one of the rats in sites

what would this accomplish?

you could nerf the isk paypout down to about a maximum of 6-7 mill a site in vanguards and that payout would only come after killing ALL the rats in the site rather than blitzing sites likes otas

another suggestion:

double the raw hp of rats or doubling the power of reppers like mara

what would this accomplish?

youd be in the site double the amount of time it normally takes, keep the payout the same however increase time in site. Doubling the effectiveness of mara would force players to actually primary targets rather than have shiny fleets be able to kill a tama on thier own.

yet another suggestion:


beef up requirements and have it where only bs, bcs, and logi can enter the sites rather than have these t3 fleets which chew through nmcs and nco in no time.

if anyone knows incursions, they know that legion fleets are the bread winners of vanguards. they can top out at close to 260 mill an hour and thats the real problem. 100 mill an hour is not practical even for a fleet of pirate faction bs, you have people going in and out the fleet, getting contests, people dcing, etc

and the reason im so oriented around vanguards is because there is nothiong unbalanced with hq and assault sites. until incursions are nerfed, vanguards sites will always be the breadwinner of incursions

Sustained 260 million an hour is rarely possible. The legion/T3 fleets have to jump system to system doing this with scouts or work in tandem with MAC nightmare ships doing OTAs at 3-4 minute tics even then you got the NMCs starting to stack eventually. But for the most part still I agree with you. The OTA's & especially NCO's have 2-4 minute tics while the NMC's are about 9-15 minute tics thanx to the shineists of shiney armour T3's/ shield MAC NMs Either add timed spacing of spawns in these 2 site to make them on par with NMC tics or some other buff of these rats would be a way to slow up the faucet

For the most part you are correct its nearly impossible to make 200+ million is an hour unless you include concord lp prices from before the collapse of Concord lp of ~9k per lp ( now its worth under 1k) as part of the isk/hour calculation. Almost all the fleets I've been in (& many FC'd) the past 2 weeks have made under 100 million an hour only 1 or 2 above and none over 130 million an hour! And I am nearly always skirting the top 10 lists in the incursions I participate in

While I would prefer a solution to High Sec Incursions that involved adding player conflict and RP, such as allowing players to fight for the Sansha, there is another solution to this problem..

Have High Sec Incursions reward only Loyalty Points and give it a unique store where only new modules and ammo can be purchased that are only useful in Incursions PvE and have no value whatsoever to the rest of the game.

I'm not a 0.0 pilot.

Your right about level 4 missions in high sec, those should also be addressed, once Incursions is dealt with.

As to what's crazy... I might be the crazy one were EVE supposed to be a themepark MMO built around PvE. However as a player conflict driven Sandbox the craziness is having PvP free PvE that is even remotely competitive with PvE in areas where PvP is much more likely. In fact I can't think of another Sandbox MMO where there was any PvE free from PvP other than for day old newbie characters.


But you know if CCP Soundwave, or any of the other members of CCP that seem to defend Incursions wants to come here and tell me the official plan is for EVE to be a more of a Themepark type game where PvP is consensual and PvE and PvP are to be firewalled from one another, I'll just bow out and stop posting. Until then, you better come up with better arguments than calling me childish and making wild assumptions about me being 0.0 pilot.