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L5 Mission Running Service

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Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-13 20:42:20 UTC
What this service is . .

We run your level 5 missions for you

You get all the LP / ISK / Standing for completing the mission without any of the risks or standing losses

We get a fixed ISK payment from you for each mission completed

Typical Mission payout is 80-100K LP + 5 Million (This does not include the time bonus because you probably won't get that)

We charge 20-50 Million depending upon the mission
See this spreadsheet for agents to use and missions that we will accept
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkXXHSw9Kx54dGpFRXZfWm5JVFBtLWRWY3dST0pBUFE


How it works . .
Fly a shuttle (or covert ops) to the mission agents that we service.
Accept any mission that is on our "mission list" and that you will make a profit from given our fees
Fly to the mission spot and bookmark the location
Rename the bookmark "Date Expires - Your Name - Mission Name" for example "2012-03-17 - Fango Mango - Cleaning House
Contract all the bookmarks to Me in Stacmon or Rens

We'll complete the mission for you and contract back to you any required items
You pay us the published fee. If you don't pay within 3 days, we stop doing business with you.

Simple as that


Send me an Evemail if you have questions or to set up bulk deals


Regular customer are welcome to join in a shuttle/covert ops so they can watch the action and learn to run the missions themselves

If you and a bunch of friends/alts want to submit lots of missions at a time we can offer you a nice discount


-FM
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-03-15 03:22:45 UTC
This is quite interesting. Why do you use other players level 5's and not just run them yourself?

Something clever

Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-15 03:56:53 UTC
Digital Messiah wrote:
This is quite interesting. Why do you use other players level 5's and not just run them yourself?



Excellent question . . .

we run probably close to 100 L5s per week.

we want MOAR income.

All the time is spent changing system, talking to agents, ect ect ect.

if we had a group of say 10-20 missions per system we could complete around 15 missions per hour.

At an average of 40 million per mission that works out to 600 mil/hour split between two players . . .

Great income for us. And our users get the rewards for running L5s without needing to take any of the risks.

its a win win for everyone


-FM
Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
#4 - 2012-03-15 12:41:25 UTC
I see only 2 problems wiht your plan...
1. bookmarks has to be made, recived and done before next restart of server.
2. corporations you service have crappy LP shops...
Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-03-15 17:10:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Fango Mango
Kiwis23 wrote:
I see only 2 problems wiht your plan...
1. bookmarks has to be made, recived and done before next restart of server.
2. corporations you service have crappy LP shops...


"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

1. Mission bookmarks (either to the deadspace location in a non-gate mission or the initial gate in gated missions) remain valid after downtown. The only time I have seen this break was when crucible was released in november, but I'm sure its happened during other major releases in EVE's history.


2. Every corporation that has L5 missions has a "crappy" LP store. That is because hundreds (maybe thousands) of players like me are dumping up to 10Million LP/week onto the market. How much is this "Crappy" LP worth? Well if all you can do is sell to buy orders in Jita its worth around 50 Million/mission. If you're willing to set up sell orders that jumps to around 75 Million/Mission. If you're willing to do your research and sell faction items or set up sell orders outside of Jita the LP is worth about 125 Million/Mission. If you can't make a profit selling the LP given the prices that I charge then accept that you are either very stupid or very lazy and go back to your incursions.
Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
#6 - 2012-03-15 21:01:25 UTC
Never done incursions, only do missions.
1. I just know that after downtime you have to revisit agent to respawn mission. maybe Lvl 5 missions works different, who knows, never done those.
2. I did my research, checked every bpc in those shops, and every worthwile implant. maximum i found was 500 isk/LP. in jita prices i mean. I never check other region prices, because they might be 200% more profitable, but that does not mean anyone buys there.
Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-03-15 21:26:07 UTC
Kiwis23 wrote:
Never done incursions, only do missions.
1. I just know that after downtime you have to revisit agent to respawn mission. maybe Lvl 5 missions works different, who knows, never done those.
2. I did my research, checked every bpc in those shops, and every worthwile implant. maximum i found was 500 isk/LP. in jita prices i mean. I never check other region prices, because they might be 200% more profitable, but that does not mean anyone buys there.


1. You really are a fracking moron . . .
Try this simple test . . .
1) Accept a mission . . .
2) Fly to the mission and bookmark the location . . .
3) Fly to that bookmark tomorrow. The ships will magically respawn! No need to re-visit agents

2. You did not do very good research.
Example #1 - Republic Fleet Fusion S - Profit/LP selling to BUY ORDERS IN JITA - 1101 ISK/LP - Volume 175K units at this price
Example #2 - Small Autocannon Specialization - Profit/LP selling to BUY ORDERS IN JITA - 704 ISK/LP - Volume 129 units at this price

the list goes on and on and on . . .

My spreadsheet has

Over 30 items that BUY for more than 600 ISK/LP in Jita

~15 items that BUY for more than 1000 ISK/LP in Jita

Over 30 Items that Sell for more than 1000 ISK/LP in Jita

~10 Items that sell for more than 1400 ISK/LP in Jita

Set up your spreadsheet to include Rens, Dodixie, Amarr, and Hek as well and you can move all kinds of LP



Actually I suggest that you stop playing eve now and focus your time on your education instead of playing games . . .
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Phoibe Enterprises
#8 - 2012-03-15 22:15:40 UTC
Fango Mango wrote:

You really are a fracking moron . . .

Actually I suggest that you stop playing eve now and focus your time on your education instead of playing games . . .


You sound mad. Are you mad?
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-03-15 22:21:15 UTC
Tabernack en Chasteaux wrote:
Fango Mango wrote:

You really are a fracking moron . . .

Actually I suggest that you stop playing eve now and focus your time on your education instead of playing games . . .


You sound mad. Are you mad?


That's not madness, that's righteous educational fury.

Teach high school maths for long enough and you'll feel the same way.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#10 - 2012-03-15 22:57:26 UTC
Hunting you down and killing you repeatedly for tanking the LP market all on your own seems like an endeavor worthy of my time.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]

Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-03-15 23:24:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Fango Mango
King Rothgar wrote:
Hunting you down and killing you repeatedly for tanking the LP market all on your own seems like an endeavor worthy of my time.


First off. Good hunting!!! You should be able to find us pretty easy with that spread sheet :)

As far as tanking the LP market . . . I started my L5 kick maybe 3 months ago. Since that time I've dumped a whole lot of LP(I dunno maybe 60-80 Million LP) on the market. The only thing I've noticed over that time is that my profit margin has remained the same and my sales volume has increased.

The skill book market can be depressed by dumping LP and takes 2-3 weeks to recover.

I haven't been able to dump enough ammo to affect the prices.

The contract market varies over the course of a week, but weekend prices have remained the same week after week.

I have noticed a massive uptick in the contract market volume though. Perhaps a steady supply of parts has caused more people to include them in their "standard fits".

I think I am still a small fry compared to the "PvP corps" that hang out and farm L5s 95% of their time.

-FM
Akeirah
Pixel Universe Brokerage Services
#12 - 2012-03-15 23:24:15 UTC
Whether or not the price is worth the service is usually up to the customer. If they can do this, and make any sort of profit with the LP over the price of the service, It's ISK for doing nothing but visiting the agent and making a BM. If you have the standings, start missions with all the agents. Then go do something else while ISK is made for you.

If his customers don't make ISK, they won't use the service and he will drop prices to get customers back.

Either way, this would have been better posted in the Sell Orders forums... and probably would have generated a lot less trolls.
Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-03-15 23:25:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Fango Mango
Tabernack en Chasteaux wrote:
Fango Mango wrote:

You really are a fracking moron . . .

Actually I suggest that you stop playing eve now and focus your time on your education instead of playing games . . .


You sound mad. Are you mad?


I was trying to offer him/her some useful life advice.

Its one thing to go around pontificating about something he/she knows nothing about. Its something else to actually *try* and make a simple calculation and fail as miserably as he/she did.

Given his/her results at such a simple task I think that the best use of his/her time is to stop playing Eve and focus on his/her education. That's for his/her own benefit and the benefit for everyone who will ever be forced to work with him/her.

Also, I am a Masshole.

-FM
"I'm bringing math back"
Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-03-15 23:32:10 UTC
Akeirah wrote:
Whether or not the price is worth the service is usually up to the customer. If they can do this, and make any sort of profit with the LP over the price of the service, It's ISK for doing nothing but visiting the agent and making a BM. If you have the standings, start missions with all the agents. Then go do something else while ISK is made for you.

If his customers don't make ISK, they won't use the service and he will drop prices to get customers back.

Either way, this would have been better posted in the Sell Orders forums... and probably would have generated a lot less trolls.


Thanks for the comment.

I figured my target audience is L4 missions runners that are unwilling to mission in low sec, and thought there would be more of them here than looking through the sell orders forum.

Also, I consider Missions and Complexes to be my home forum :)

-FM
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-03-16 05:18:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Headerman
A very interesting service :)

For a flat fee it is well worth people taking you up on it, even if the L5's are done with the Gallente (stacmon), and especially Minmatar (rens).

Edit, just saw ur spreadsheet

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Lady Aja
#16 - 2012-03-16 10:36:46 UTC
what about anti faction missions? who gets the tags?
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
Maluscious Melody
The First Foundation
Legion of xXDEATHXx
#17 - 2012-03-16 13:40:09 UTC
Lady Aja wrote:
what about anti faction missions? who gets the tags?


This please
Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-03-16 14:57:37 UTC
Lady Aja wrote:
what about anti faction missions? who gets the tags?


tags? There are no tags.

Tags require that you blow up ships.

Blowing up ships means that you aren't blitzing.

-FM
ISD 3-14
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-03-16 20:11:32 UTC
Moved from Missions & Complexes due to the purely commercial nature of this ad.

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Doc Banshee
Quam Singulari
#20 - 2012-03-16 20:43:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Banshee
Fango Mango wrote:
What this service is . .

We run your level 5 missions for you

You get all the LP / ISK / Standing for completing the mission without any of the risks or standing losses

We get a fixed ISK payment from you for each mission completed

Typical Mission payout is 80-100K LP + 5 Million (This does not include the time bonus because you probably won't get that)

We charge 20-50 Million depending upon the mission
See this spreadsheet for agents to use and missions that we will accept
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkXXHSw9Kx54dGpFRXZfWm5JVFBtLWRWY3dST0pBUFE


How it works . .
Fly a shuttle (or covert ops) to the mission agents that we service.
Accept any mission that is on our "mission list" and that you will make a profit from given our fees
Fly to the mission spot and bookmark the location
Rename the bookmark "Date Expires - Your Name - Mission Name" for example "2012-03-17 - Fango Mango - Cleaning House
Contract all the bookmarks to Me in Stacmon or Rens

We'll complete the mission for you and contract back to you any required items
You pay us the published fee. If you don't pay within 3 days, we stop doing business with you.

Simple as that


Send me an Evemail if you have questions or to set up bulk deals


Regular customer are welcome to join in a shuttle/covert ops so they can watch the action and learn to run the missions themselves

If you and a bunch of friends/alts want to submit lots of missions at a time we can offer you a nice discount


-FM



You should really work on your sales pitch.

1. Why use your service, when the average level 5 runner can easily pull in 3-6 million loyalty points a day.
Even up to 10 million loyalty points a day.
And keep all the profit for himself.

Sure it takes an investment to get started.

But on average, it takes 3,14 minute to run any of the 13 good level 5 missions. And thats using a single char.


You get around 96000 loyalty points per mission, around 11 million in reward/timebonus.
96000 loyalty points sell for 450 isk/lp (fast trade to sell orders) or 600 isk / lp (if you cba.)

So.

If 'someone' runs the mission using your service, they get between 5-20 million out of it. (after paying you)
Not using it, they get 20-50 million out of it (with a 1,1bn potential from a single mission. You know which one I'm talking about)


So if you could explain why an aspiring level 5 runner shouldn't just join one of the established level 5 corps. Or get some blue standings with them. I think it would help alot on your service



\Doc


-edit-

You should convo me. I might be able to provide a solution to your mission problem ;)
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