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CCP competence returned to normal levels.

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#1 - 2012-03-15 14:59:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Spank
After a brief run of genuine excellence it seems CCP are back to their standard operating procedures....

1. Poorly coded launcher, CPU intensive for no good reason and slow at downloading patches. You don't want it? Tough.

2. Deleting player owned items including alliance tournament prizes. Prizes that took CCP a long time to actually hand out in the first place and now state will not be returned as a priority due to fanfest. This along with peoples valued collectors items the mine BPC's. They don't even have a reliable mechanism for implementing their return and when they any record of research on the items has been erased. The logs show nothing.

3. Stealth 'nerf' to how bounties are paid out on belt rats. The bounties now only go to the person dealing the last blow. While this is largely a non-issue, it kills off teamwork in ratting security status up quickly. No one at CCP is able to give a consistent ruling on if this is a feature, a bug; nor if it even exists in-game at all. Despite the fact that it obviously is if you spend time to test it.

4. Terrible 'improvements' to the overview. Ship brackets not appearing till the end of the overview refresh cycle rather than immediately amongst other issues.

5. Forum / Gate notifications.

6. Etc.

It was a nice run it seems they have all too quickly forgotten what true excellence is Oops

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Eugene Spencer
Jazzy Jass and the Pleasure Hub Bandits
#2 - 2012-03-15 15:01:14 UTC
It's the end of the world.

I have a specific comb for my beard.

Tobiaz
Spacerats
#3 - 2012-03-15 15:04:46 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:

3. Stealth 'nerf' to how bounties are paid out on belt rats. The bounties now only go to the person dealing the last blow. While this is largely a non-issue, it kills off teamwork in ratting security status up quickly. No one at CCP is able to give a consistent ruling on if this is a feature, a bug; nor if it even exists in-game at all. Despite the fact that it obviously is if you spend time to test it.



I read it's not only bounties but sec bonus as well. Big face-palm overall though.

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BBJ Shepard
#4 - 2012-03-15 15:09:09 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
After a brief run of genuine excellence it seems CCP are back to their standard operating procedures....

1. Poorly coded launcher, CPU intensive for no good reason and slow at downloading patches. You don't want it? Tough.

2. Deleting player owned items including alliance tournament prizes. Prizes that took CCP a long time to actually hand out in the first place and now state will not be returned as a priority due to fanfest. This along with peoples valued collectors items the mine BPC's. They don't even have a reliable mechanism for implementing their return and when they any record of research on the items has been erased. The logs show nothing.

3. Stealth 'nerf' to how bounties are paid out on belt rats. The bounties now only go to the person dealing the last blow. While this is largely a non-issue, it kills off teamwork in ratting security status up quickly. No one at CCP is able to give a consistent ruling on if this is a feature, a bug; nor if it even exists in-game at all. Despite the fact that it obviously is if you spend time to test it.

4. Terrible 'improvements' to the overview. Ship brackets not appearing till the end of the overview refresh cycle rather than immediately amongst other issues.

5. Forum / Gate notifications.

6. Etc.

It was a nice run it seems they have all too quickly forgotten what true excellence is Oops


:'(

?(:

Kiandoshia
Likely Suspects
RAZOR Alliance
#5 - 2012-03-15 15:10:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiandoshia
Eugene Spencer wrote:
It's the end of the world.


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Sometimes... Uh no nevermind =S
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
#6 - 2012-03-15 15:11:02 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
After a brief run of genuine excellence it seems CCP are back to their standard operating procedures....

1. Poorly coded launcher, CPU intensive for no good reason and slow at downloading patches. You don't want it? Tough.

2. Deleting player owned items including alliance tournament prizes. Prizes that took CCP a long time to actually hand out in the first place and now state will not be returned as a priority due to fanfest. This along with peoples valued collectors items the mine BPC's. They don't even have a reliable mechanism for implementing their return and when they any record of research on the items has been erased. The logs show nothing.

3. Stealth 'nerf' to how bounties are paid out on belt rats. The bounties now only go to the person dealing the last blow. While this is largely a non-issue, it kills off teamwork in ratting security status up quickly. No one at CCP is able to give a consistent ruling on if this is a feature, a bug; nor if it even exists in-game at all. Despite the fact that it obviously is if you spend time to test it.

4. Terrible 'improvements' to the overview. Ship brackets not appearing till the end of the overview refresh cycle rather than immediately amongst other issues.

5. Forum / Gate notifications.

6. Etc.

It was a nice run it seems they have all too quickly forgotten what true excellence is Oops


I am almost afraid to post this, but I must agree with all of your points. This is becoming like a bad trip down Incarna lane.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#7 - 2012-03-15 15:11:40 UTC
Eugene Spencer wrote:
It's the end of the world.



But I feel fine.


:excellence:






There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#8 - 2012-03-15 15:12:30 UTC

I blame fanfest.
Looks like they're already heavy on the bottle for it. :o
Things will turn to normal (I hope) 2 weeks after the hangover.
robbyx
#9 - 2012-03-15 15:15:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Grossvogel
(*snip* — ISD Grossvogel)
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-03-15 15:19:29 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:

3. Stealth 'nerf' to how bounties are paid out on belt rats. The bounties now only go to the person dealing the last blow. While this is largely a non-issue, it kills off teamwork in ratting security status up quickly. No one at CCP is able to give a consistent ruling on if this is a feature, a bug; nor if it even exists in-game at all. Despite the fact that it obviously is if you spend time to test it.



I read it's not only bounties but sec bonus as well. Big face-palm overall though.


I will gladly confirm that this is a defect and that a fix for it will be forthcoming shortly.

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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#11 - 2012-03-15 15:22:47 UTC
At least Tuxford only accidentallied the server

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Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-15 15:24:39 UTC
Look, :18 months: was a problem. This is a mistake, and for such a solution is inbound...

I imagine that part of the time, it's threads like this that make the devs *not* want to engage us...

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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-03-15 15:28:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Crucis Cassiopeiae
1.) launcher that is made from nothing and have few bugs... can you do it better???
2.) CCP said thats error and they will look at it when more important things are finished... you never make mistakes???
4.) Some ppl don't like changes, some like them... its more good things then bad.
5.) Ok... forums are screw up... but are much better then when they launched.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#14 - 2012-03-15 15:31:03 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Look, :18 months: was a problem. This is a mistake, and for such a solution is inbound...

I imagine that part of the time, it's threads like this that make the devs *not* want to engage us...


The devs would have more time to do important things if they put Spank on their ignore list, tbo.

Mr Epeen Cool
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-03-15 15:32:42 UTC
I think the problem goes to the very start. The issue is that after almost 10 years this game is "still" being put right. If a standard life time is lets go for 80 years then 1/8th of a life time is a dang long time to put this stuff right.

The belt rats even though I don't do this I can agree would be a pain in the backside. CCPs secretiveness about it makes matter all the more worse. Why the secretiveness? Because indeed there would be outrage.

I dont grasp the new Battlecruiser thing? Instead of 1 skill there will be 4 racials. This will make it more like the other ships classes but why "is it needed" It's working fine as it is?

Also the "log" window is now about as laggy as running a dedicated Crysis 2 server on a Pentium 1 from a 56k modem.

The launcher is another thing not needed and is time spent. This could have been used else where.

The launcher is actually pointing out what Spank said, Its evidence that CCP has once again gone from the green to the rough...
Its lost its path again *GAH* Something we were promised wouldn't happen. Yet here we are and clearly things have been brushed aside for the new launcher. Teams have been taken from "lets fix our game team" and placed into the "new ideas no one really wants" team.

In any game there has to be certain elements which are routine, things that will not change. Like that medkit place in that FPS game, It always spawns there...

Rats shouldn't be changed, they should stay the same just like mission rat spawns should stay the same. It should be a constant within the game.

If things are being changed which makes the task harder the reward should be higher

Chaining rats is a source of income for null sec dwellers as well as a great way of raising sec status for these reasons it should be left well alone.

Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#16 - 2012-03-15 15:32:51 UTC
Didn't you quit a couple weeks ago?Roll

Yeeee! 

The F Word
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-03-15 15:34:33 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:



Blah blah blah pot stirring...




Did you post something about leaving?
thoth rothschild
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-03-15 15:40:02 UTC  |  Edited by: thoth rothschild
Lady Spank wrote:


2. Deleting player owned items including alliance tournament prizes. Prizes that took CCP a long time to actually hand out in the first place and now state will not be returned as a priority due to fanfest. This along with peoples valued collectors items the mine BPC's. They don't even have a reliable mechanism for implementing their return and when they any record of research on the items has been erased. The logs show nothing.


*sigh*
mimir bpc gone :p well erm may i ask....
CCP Cascade
#19 - 2012-03-15 15:40:03 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Cascade
Lady Spank wrote:

1. Poorly coded launcher, CPU intensive for no good reason and slow at downloading patches. You don't want it? Tough.


I'm happy to say that there is a really good reason for it using your CPU as it is calculating what it needs to download. It should only really be slow the first time use it and after it should be as quick or even quicker than the old patching mechanics.

The system resouces used by the Launcher shouldn't affect you when running the game as you have the option to make it close the game after starting. You also have the option to make it only show up when there is an update.

More information regarding the settings and the Launcher in general can be read here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_Launcher

We are sending out an update to the Launcher today to resolve some of the issues people have been experiencing and we apologize to those who have been having issues getting into the game the last few days because of the Launcher. We'll keep you posted on the progress!

Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-03-15 15:41:09 UTC
I don't think it is CCP's competence that is the issue. I think it is the players competence, namely people like Lady Spank, that is the issue.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

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