EVE General Discussion

What we really need is a break down of Isk faucets, Isk sinks, and a further break down of which security space those sinks/faucets are being used in, AND the real numbers of people using those faucets and sinks...

I would imagine that a hi-sec mission bot, or a null-sec ratting bot will skew any results and I don't think *we* have the tools needed to weed that out or adjust for it to come to an informed decision...

But this has been a fun thread...

Skex already touched on this, plex prices are a special case since they are linked to RL currency. I'm not completely sure they are the best indicator of an inflation. How do you define that anyway? Does it really hold for all goods across the board indiscriminately? I haven't seen much evidence on that so far. And if not can it be called an inflation?

(If you assume value ≡ isk price in the wiki definition of mudflation posted by Liang, you get the same thing as inflation.)

More people coming back to Eve due to Crucible, wanting to pay their game time with PLEX, but still the smae number of new players buying plex for money.
A.K.A increasing demand, same offer = Prices rise.

Possible real life economic factors lowering the number of people purchasing the GTCs for cash and instead looking to plex their accounts might also be having an impact.

PLEX as a "pure" indicator of the in-game economy aren't that good, because the supply of plex can / is influenced by outside factors (players returning adding to demand that just might not be able to be supplied increasing cost).

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I am not an economist.

Since Ive been flying Broadswords, which is only a few months, they have increased 140 mil to 250 mil each. Worst is the Nomad, every time I save up enough isk to buy one they've gone up another billion. 3.8 bil a few months ago, something stupid like 7 bil now

So what about all of the other T2 hulls? Have they also gone up?

You can't look at a single aspect of the game economy which happens to be experiencing a supply / demand imbalance and yell 'ZOMG inflation!' without looking at all of the other parts of the economy. There are many market sectors in EVE where prices have fallen 20-30% over the last 6-12 months or which have remained fairly stagnant other then minor price swings due to supply/demand.

There is not too much isk in the game actually, there are a few players gettign far too much isk witch is not the same thing.

It's not the lone guy or with a friend running missions all day that brings too much isk to the game.

It's not the null sec bear running sites all day long that brings too much isk to the game

it's not the guy participating occasionally to incursions that brings too much isk to the game.

It's those running sites/mission/incursions 24h/d with their bots, mining entire belts al alone with their bots, running belts/sites in null with their very numerous bot alts, running incursions with their numerous alts and bots.

Those are the problem and will always be for whatever activity you put in the game but it's not a hill at it self but a symptom of a much bigger problem: the lack of game mechanics, rules, tools whatsoever to control at a right moment something that can go out of control.

There is nothing in the game that puts a barrier to any sort of activity, it's yourself who puts those barriers but if you have none?
You make forum threads pop like this one and like a few other ones, they don't understand that it's a player driven game when it doesn't brings them advantages.
As intelligent as a thicken can be playing with a knife, the average internet games player thinking he's so special, will shoot him self in the foot because no matter what they say they always act in their own selfish interest.

Add moon goo, the biggest passive income in the game.
Throw some drone crap once again profiting to a very small part of eve players and killing a major part of the game for years now: mining

The list can go on, but whatever you'll pick each and every one of these will always bring exponential rewards for those playing more than 2 accounts, exploiting game mechanics, using bots.
At the end of the day the single player, the guy discovering the game and playing it normally with some fellows found here and there when he reads this kind of threads he might as well think there are different servers of eve online.

In other words: Start producing your own Nomad, you should get rich, don't you?

Yes. Big money to be made in Capital ship production.

The point I am making is that there is a limit to have much time a player can spend collecting bounties, even if you are Botting. Therefore there is a limit to the amount of ISK that can be injected into the economy by Bounties.

ISK does not get printed when you kill an NPC, you are expending time and effort to generate that wealth, so its not really printed in the sense of the word we use in the Real World. Unless you are a Bot, but that is a different matter.

When the Fed or BoE or ECB 'prints' money it literally creates a fresh bank account out of thin air and makes the electronic balance in that account whatever it desires, which it then uses for whatever purposes it wants. It does that with no effort or work involved by the general population of the country. That is printing money. 'Money' with no effort involved, that's what printing money is.