EVE General Discussion

PLEX is hardly a hard asset in a MMO of eve's age - it goes down when veterans start to look for new ventures since the game is hardly pulling in new pilots.

Tritanium mining in nullsec will be getting a major buff sooner or later, making it a soft asset as well for the long run.

Characters might be a viable investment along some necessary implants and quality modules. Just speculation though.

Look close enough to one another to me.

Eve is a different case and Skex has described some of the aspects that expose the difference between mudflation and inflation. There are some aspects of the Eve economy that are mudflation like, but the convertibility (reprocessing) of some of the obsolete items mitigates the item inflation that is also part of mudflation. Nerfing drone poo will help reduce what aspects of mudflation do exist in the Eve economy, stopping loot drops and changing over to 1 run BPCs, or "broken" metaX items that require "repair" using minerals, will go even further to remove resource oversupply.

Prices rising for minerals is caused by, upcoming removal of mineral supply in an environment of an ever increasing monetary base that is also experiencing increased velocity.

Edit this term " item inflation " used above means, an increase count of those items in the game. Some, (who rely on mass media and sources that do not like to admit their role in inflation (central banks)) may be confused thinking I mean item price.

Jesus...

Almost no-one belt-rats in nullsec anymore.

Incursions cannot be botted 23.5/7, yet account for ca.25% of all bounty payouts. PLEX were not shooitng towards ISK 500mn, along with damned near everything else rising by ca. 50% before Incursions.

This is not hard, OK?

Incursion farming with no commensurate ISK-sink/little risk is a huge problem, and nothing you do to delude yourself otherwise will change this.

Oh, btw, thanks for the stealth-nerf to co-operative gameplay re- sec-status ratting.

That will not be forgotten, just so we're clear.

I'm not trolling, you are being obtuse.

Mudflation is not simply monetary Also as I and others have pointed out EVE does not have an inflation problem either

If it did you would be seeing a constant increase in prices overtime rather than the spike that coincided with two major null sec wars one of which has a huge effect on mineral prices.

I'd say you have a 101 level understanding of currency but a even a basic macro course would give you a bit of a clue.

Evidence of inflation. if there was inflation we'd have it. Yet for all the crying and bellyaching you and the rest of the chicken little's have been doing over the last 2 and half years I've not seen one iota of evidence

All we get is your half-baked theory. well here's a little lesson for you. When theory conflicts with evidence, you toss the theory

There are certain things we'd expect to happen if inflation was a problem primarily a steady increase of prices on all goods. The fact that we haven't had that should be sufficient to discard this bullshit.

So the rise in price of PLEX from 300M ISK to 480M ISK is merely a spike in mineral prices due to null sec wars?

There is inflation of the monetary base, and then there are symptoms of that inflation. What matters is, does productive output keep up with the increase in the base. When it comes to Eve, each sector of the economy has to be examined differently. There are some sectors that are more sensitive to ISK inflation than others, and some less because of mechanics in the game, some things in the game are completely immune to inflationary pressures.

To me what is important are those game mechanics that hinder or over sensitize the different sectors. Those things which are immune are a a little troubling, but good for newbies so they don't bug me much. I for one am not concerned about prices going up because of inflation, it's what is supposed to happen. The sooner we get to the point where doing something other than shooting rats becomes as valuable as shooting rats, the better off Eve will be.

This--although hisec bounties should not be totally vapourised, but as well, there needs to be more content in losec besides just missions.

Also, NPC loot-drops: No tech I/meta zero loots. At all. Meta 1+, tags, and/or salvage only.

What about fuel for ships?

I don't think anybody older than a week would care about highsec bounties, if the LP stores would not require tags and implants/hardwirings were removed from the mission reward and loot lists.

I do agree that removing mission loot and drone-poo would do wonders to industry and the economy, though.

Since I did this in real life, nobody saw me clap my hands once in the hair just before yelling "**** yeah!" in my squeaky voice. But basically, **** yeah CCP Soundwave.