Ships & Modules

I was wondering why there isn't a Caldari/Minmatar pirate hybrid ship? If there was what do you think the frigate, cruiser and battleship would look like, what would be it's bonuses? Projectile boat or missile boat, and the reason why for all answers. And lets do the same for Amarr/Gallente. Thanks

~Thadd

there are lesser factions that could take the role. I'd hope the Caldari/Minmatar would be missiles because there isn't really one, the rattlesnake is much more a drone boat then a missile boat now. The Amarr/Gal I think be cool to see as a hybrid boat. We seem to agree on the missile boat for sure haha. Armor I'm not sure, I think the C/M be a better shield boat OR do like Min where you can turn it into an armor or shield boat. and the A/G would have to be an armor for sure.

I think you meant HAMs not heavy missiles, the HAM would be short range for cruise size. I like that idea though. I think the 25% or 50% should be decrease the signature radius factor for missile explosions to help take out faster/smaller targets. The painter I would do ROF. What do you think?

And what do you like for the A/G ships?

Like the idea, but Khanid T2?

eom......already have the emo raging idiots who won't train rails for the naga and whine because they have to. And now you wanna have them train lasers too if they wnat those new eom rides lol. They'd cry even more...which would make this a +1 to see this just for that.



It won't be a missile boat.

BS level there is no damage bonus (beyond golem). Pirate ships pick and choose bonii from both races and mash em togetjher. Neither half of tnis pairng has a damage bonus at bs level...no missile damage bonus to mash up. We don't need another missile sniper...especially the caldari half.

Cruisers....NAvy caracal and cerb are already half decent rides if given a chance.They aren't though. SO we don't need a 3rd ship with range and damage bonus no one will fly. Mainly due to the fact 9/10 most fleets will use it wrong and the become a waste of time and money to run. they'd do what they do now. Take a ship that can chuck some heat at 70+km's....and make it run side by side with sr vaga.s'


Frigate..Rocket ships don't fire from kite range well...excpet for worm...which we already have. also the cold hard fact winmatar by and large have never said man I don't want 4 guns and 1 rocklet launcher on my woif....I want 4 launchers and 1 gun. I am a caldari to minny x-train...I know well why they don't say this. . Also worht noting that launcher is usually dropped for more useful stuff like nos/neut , salvagers or empty space if grid is really tight. GUn based new new pirate ship is jsut the best choice.

Range is something these lack so it has to go up, the target painter bonus is there for the explosion radius.

I did mean HAM, I said Heavy Assault which make the H and A of HAM lol



And sure you have have for instance EoM but they dont have their own part of space, no plexes etc. They dont really count for me, but if you do want to count them I dont blame ya for it.



Khanid T2 does offer something in this ballpark I admit, but it lacks the total combo (Range, ROF and TP) I am suggesting. Plus most of those are tanky to me and with this I am thinking more of DPS than Tank.

I finally wanna be able to do proper DPS with missles. Cause missles lose every DPS compairison against their counterparts of different races. Course they get things like range in return, missles are by no means bad

So I have a desire for ripping apart people with missles. Not be out of their range as I slowly kill them, the short range/high dps versions of missles get used the least I think because of low range and high explosion radius which the bonuses of these ships would both counter against.

I want to combine my love for DPS with my love for Missles

Beat me to the thread by 6 minutes...

I too have always wanted Cal / Min Mordus ships. Especially their Raven.

I imagine Caldari/Minmatar pirate vessels would look like rusty, poorly maintained Caldari ships. There should be an animation of small bits falling off at random intevals.

Mordu's Legion, Thukker Tribe, etc. There are some "minor" factions that have their "home" space but no ships and such that would be associated with a major faction.

And a Thukker HML Vaga would be pretty ******* boss, tbh.

EOM's <3
Shield tanked amarr ships using hybrids and missiles, that would make me change immediately my training plan for those.
About stats I'd be fine with something on the same line than Blood riders/serpentis, natural shield regen, energy neut, web strengh, rails bonus only (not double rails/blasters), but a very slow bick, really really slow brick.

I think the cal/min one is doomed to failure. :(

It has the potential to be very cool, but I can see them, for example, taking both weapon systems from caldari and giving the ships a minmatar-style split damage bonus, like the huginn....anyone up for equal parts range-bonused hybrid turrets and velocity- bonused launchers?