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4 Clients in full screen.
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Grombel
Sleepless Premonition
#1 - 2012-03-13 23:58:19 UTC
Ok so here is the issue. I have four clients running. I have four monitors. I have one client on each monitor. I can run them in fixed window mode and mouse over and click and everything works fine except that I get fps around 10-15 on each client. I can change the settings and put all 4 clients in full screen and get an fps around 60 on all 4 clients at the same time. However, if I click on any client while in full screen it minimizes the other three. This is unacceptable. Is there a fix, workaround, or whatever? I have looked around the forum a bit but can't seem to find anything. I can live with the 10-15 fps in fixed window as I have been doing so for quite some time. I just think that this issue has to have been brought up before. Any info would be appreciated. Please and thankyou!
M'thras
Trial By Combat
#2 - 2012-03-14 04:45:40 UTC
I run 3 clients and this is what I do to improve FPS:

Go to your graphic driver control pannel and identifiy your screens and memorize it. (I have Nvidia, I dont know how ATI handles it but with Nvidia the monitors are given numbers)

Then, when u start your eve clients, before you drag it to the monitor u want it to be and maximize it, go to the options / display & graphics and go to the left hand side 'pull down' menu that says Display Adapter. It should give you Adapter 1 to 4 to choose from so you select the corresponding number for each client.

I also tried to play around giving the clients different Intervals but that didnt yield satisfying results.

Greetings

Mthras
snake pies
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
#3 - 2012-03-14 14:43:24 UTC
Are you sure you ever played in full screen with all four, because Windows will minimize the others when the focus is on one.

I always played with fixed window, not due to CCP, but due to Windows.

M'thras
Trial By Combat
#4 - 2012-03-14 16:06:59 UTC  |  Edited by: M'thras
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Are you sure you ever played in full screen with all four, because Windows will minimize the others when the focus is on one.


I think thats what he meant, if there is a way to use fullscreen mode without clients minimizing, because EVE runs faster (more FPS) when in fullscreen. But i am afraid there is no way around windowed mode when multiboxing...

Like i said in the above post, this technique will atleast improve framerates a bit.

Greetings

Mthras
Fishmaskle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-14 17:24:24 UTC
There is no way to run 4 clients fullscreen at the same time. It would always have been Windowed or now Fixed Windowed to keep them all up at the same time.

Curious but if you have a multicore processor, (hopefully a Quad core at least) have you tried dedicating a single core to each EVE instance and seeing if this helps performance at all?

Also curious but did it run fine before 1.5 or at least at an earlier time with no changes in hardware/drivers?

I do notice even with SLI and a Quad, that running 2 clients over 1 seems to cut performance almost exactly in half on my system even though it is not topping out my CPU nor my 2 GPU's. (CPU is usually always within 50-75% total usage and GPU's usually chill around 50-80% usage area). Partially I can blame this on the 2nd monitor only being 60HZ while my main is 120Hz so with 1 client I push up to 120FPS to match the Interval (VSYNC) limit, but when I run 2 clients, the 2nd monitor pulls the refresh down to 60Hz Interval for both clients and neither one will go above 60FPS. Where the performance is hit hard is when both are in CQ then they both hover around 30fps but still neither my CPU or GPU's are maxed out. 
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M'thras
Trial By Combat
#6 - 2012-03-14 22:57:02 UTC
Fishmaskle wrote:
Partially I can blame this on the 2nd monitor only being 60HZ while my main is 120Hz so with 1 client I push up to 120FPS to match the Interval (VSYNC) limit, but when I run 2 clients, the 2nd monitor pulls the refresh down to 60Hz Interval for both clients and neither one will go above 60FPS. Where the performance is hit hard is when both are in CQ then they both hover around 30fps but still neither my CPU or GPU's are maxed out.


Maybe the setting I desribed in the second post is exactly what could help you...
It lets each eve client know what monitor it is running on, maybe that way it can distinguish the Hz. It wouldnt help with your idle CPU time though, but it would make better use of your GPUs.

Its worth a try...

Greetings

Mthras
Fishmaskle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-03-14 23:03:08 UTC
M'thras wrote:
Fishmaskle wrote:
Partially I can blame this on the 2nd monitor only being 60HZ while my main is 120Hz so with 1 client I push up to 120FPS to match the Interval (VSYNC) limit, but when I run 2 clients, the 2nd monitor pulls the refresh down to 60Hz Interval for both clients and neither one will go above 60FPS. Where the performance is hit hard is when both are in CQ then they both hover around 30fps but still neither my CPU or GPU's are maxed out.


Maybe the setting I desribed in the second post is exactly what could help you...
It lets each eve client know what monitor it is running on, maybe that way it can distinguish the Hz. It wouldnt help with your idle CPU time though, but it would make better use of your GPUs.

Its worth a try...


Your method is exactly what I use. 2 Clients (1 install but 2 Account settings via the evewiki deal) on 2 separate monitors. My main loads up on the 120hz, the alt loads up on the 2nd 60hz montior always.

I believe the Refresh rate limit is more limited to the fact that the card cannot push 2 separate referesh rate's at the same time to 2 different 3D apps. I would assume the same would go for spanning it across the 2 different monitors in fullscreen if I did that.

Now if i had 2 120Hz monitors, well then my GPU's would probably melt trying to drive 2 games to 120fps Blink


But...... I do plan to someday, rock 3 120Hz 3D monitors for the sake of some Surround goodness... Just you wait. Cool
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M'thras
Trial By Combat
#8 - 2012-03-14 23:14:53 UTC
OK, so what u could do is try to disable SLI and let each card controll one monitor, but like u said, is it really worth the hazzle when u get a stable 60 FPS? I am happy I am between 20-30 FPS when tripple boxing but my system is not state of the art anymore... but its stable, thats what counts!

Greetings

Mthras