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PIRATES: CCP LOVES YOU AND WANTS YOU TO STAY IN EVE (Revised Post)

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Kristoffon Ellecon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2012-03-14 04:09:33 UTC
Darius III wrote:
...unsubbing my alts...

working as intended?

be a man and gank using your main
Silus Morde
#82 - 2012-03-14 04:17:22 UTC
I thought EVE was about: Improvise, adapt, and overcome? I guess I was wrong.

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
aetherguy881
Grouchy Rediculous Ugly Man Pigs
#83 - 2012-03-14 04:38:07 UTC
Darius: carebear at heart.
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2012-03-14 04:42:30 UTC
lol darius go back to wow.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#85 - 2012-03-14 04:55:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
New Patch today and new stealth nerf to high sec piracy by CCP

Our corp has taken on the good work of ridding Gallente Ice belts of bots, something CCP tends to fail horribly at.Prior to the patch we were able to clear Concord by boarding a noob ship in space near the belt we had just killed and committing another act of piracy.

It appears now since the latest patch, that you can no longer board a new ship while in space in high sec while having GCC. This means you now have to wait til your GCC runs out to clear Concord from the belt or use another alt/player.

I'm not sure if this carries over to low sec or not as we just discovered this "new" feature tonight, that wasn't there yesterday before the patch.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#86 - 2012-03-14 08:40:31 UTC
Stealth changes are bad.

This change is bad.

Carebears need to learn what tears are.
Stephen Fleck
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-03-14 08:41:55 UTC
The suicide system is already and still flawed in your favor to the point of stupidity.The fact that cheap as dirt destroyers can suicide gank a 200mil hulk is in itself laughable and just plain ********.Dont get me wrong i dont blame anyone for using these flaws/blessing's to get rich with little effort, to each his own.But for you to get on here and cry about sec status gain is just plain ignorant and delusional.If you were a real pirate sec status wouldnt matter to you anyways.Seems to me you and the ones who support your opinion in this want to roam freely in Empire space to do as you please without consequences.grow a pair of space balls and embrace your -10 you weekend warrior.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-03-14 09:01:18 UTC
Stephen Fleck wrote:
The suicide system is already and still flawed in your favor to the point of stupidity.The fact that cheap as dirt destroyers can suicide gank a 200mil hulk is in itself laughable and just plain ********.Dont get me wrong i dont blame anyone for using these flaws/blessing's to get rich with little effort, to each his own.But for you to get on here and cry about sec status gain is just plain ignorant and delusional.If you were a real pirate sec status wouldnt matter to you anyways.Seems to me you and the ones who support your opinion in this want to roam freely in Empire space to do as you please without consequences.grow a pair of space balls and embrace your -10 you weekend warrior.


You completely missed half of the point the OP was making. Congrats.
Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2012-03-14 09:05:55 UTC
I don't really care about the change, but introducing such stuff without patch notes is just terrible style. Especially in a game that complex. Really really uncool CCP.
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#90 - 2012-03-14 10:14:01 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:


Incursions: spamming fits into chat-channels and hoping you get accepted--eventually--into some elitist carebear ISK-farmer's fleet of bling-barges....


incursions defined rofl

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#91 - 2012-03-14 11:19:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
disillusional wrote:
I have to agree with all of the criticism of CCP in this thread, this stealth nerfs/mechanics changes are just not good for the game or it's playerbase. For all of you who agree with these sorts of changes, it's all fun and games until it changes something that affects you. Personally I think CCP should apologise for this change, hold some form of consultation on lowsec and hi-sec pvp and ask the community as a whole what they actually want instead of what seems to be a series of broken patches and stealth nerfs towards EVE 'Carebear Adventure' Online.



Truth.

As well, ITT: Myopic, obtuse, self-absorbed carebears being selfishly myopic and obtuse.

E: Egregious example of the above--

Griznatch wrote:
Waaahhh waaaahh i cant fix my sec status by target painting some carebears mission battleships. Waaaah waaah bad sec status is a liability now instead of an easily worked around nuisance waaah waah. I cant go to high sec anymore waah waah.

Please, for the love of god, unsub and dont come back.


FOAD, you toddler.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#92 - 2012-03-14 11:26:40 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Tark Grethor wrote:
Ah this takes me back to the introduction of warp to 0. That, as I recall, was the end of low sec pvp and all the usual suspects emoragequit (at least they claimed to have). Many a carebear slurped on delicious pirate tears that day Twisted


I remember that... Not like we all didn't have instas to 0 anyhow.

Though I think the primary reason they added warp to 0 was due to the strain on their database that resulted from us having as many as 10 thousand bookmarks in our folders.

So they killed wt15 and added wt0, while removing the need for instas. Sloppy way to fix the problem. :/
Bricksauce
The Soul Society
Fraternity.
#93 - 2012-03-14 11:34:10 UTC
Tark Grethor wrote:
Ah this takes me back to the introduction of warp to 0. That, as I recall, was the end of low sec pvp and all the usual suspects emoragequit (at least they claimed to have). Many a carebear slurped on delicious pirate tears that day Twisted


Because all lowsec PVP is gatecamps? lololol.

!
Andrea Griffin
#94 - 2012-03-14 13:07:26 UTC
A bit of an overreaction, don't you think?

Real pirates go -10 and stay there. : >

Yeah, it makes highsec suicide ganking a little more problematic but that's not piracy anyway. It's just lame suicide ganking.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#95 - 2012-03-14 13:31:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tamiya Sarossa
I fail to see what's so 'fundamentally broken' about this - the traditional methods of ratting sec back have always involved going to nullsec in a stealth bomber, where spawns have multiple BS's for everyone to kill so this is irrelevant, lowsec plexes/highsec missions also have multiple bs's so everyone can shoot one to get their sec gain, as do the vast majority of sec gaining methods.

So, the only place this is actually a nerf to is killing single NPC BS's in lowsec belts along with your freinds - and well I've done this and am slightly annoyed by the change, it is only a pain *because* CCP added BS's to lowsec belts in the first place! They're a fairly recent development, so really, even with this change CCP has done more to improve the ease of regaining sec recently than it has to hurt it.

Consequences should be consequences, and I'm saying that as someone who ******* hates ratting their sec up. I think it's rather fitting that I avoid shooting the 3-day old rifters in belts because "it's not worth ratting the sec up" - that's why the ******* sec is there, not to just provide a slap on the wrist while you merrily pew everything in sight.

If you want to do that, go -10 and don't look back (been there and ratted it all back up, solo), and don't ***** about not being able to shoot everything you want and still have access to highsec without any effort involved.

EDIT: seriously, I get the suicide ganker tears, but don't make this out as a huge CCP hates pirates nerf. It really isn't that big of a deal.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#96 - 2012-03-14 13:50:56 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
is this a horrible nerf?

Like I said earlier, the "old" way of everyone getting the full benefit was probably broken and I don't think anyone with any sense would argue that it makes sense for an interloper with a target painter to get the same sec bonus as the guy who did all the actual work. I have two issues here:

-Undocumented changes are a bad thing and should be called out EVERY TIME. If we fail to do that, we allow CCP to make a habit of making changes to game mechanics that we simply have to discover, often in unfortunate ways.
-This particular change discourages cooperative play, which CCP has indicated they want to see more of. After all the bluster about Incursion and how its intent was to bring more people together, this runs counter to those goals.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#97 - 2012-03-14 13:54:59 UTC
Griznatch wrote:
Oh god, now your 5 man ratting fleet has to find 5 battleships to shoot every 15 minutes instead of just one. How will you ever manage?

Who cares if they didn't tell you. The game works a certian way now. You can either keep on playing, finding new tactics and tricks, and not giving a damn or you can whine about on the forums like an impotent child. You appear to have chosen your path already.

Actually, I don't have to rat to improve my sec status. My normal exploration activities repair what little damage I do to it.

That they didn't tell us is kind of a big deal to me. This change doesn't affect me at all; I'm in this discussion on principle. A rather significant change was made to a mechanic without any warning or any discussion with the player base. CCP never even addressed this as a problem that needed to be fixed, they simply implemented the change and then shrugged and said "oops" when they were called out for not putting it in the patch notes. It's a bad way to treat your customers and I want them to know that.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#98 - 2012-03-14 13:59:37 UTC
Andrea Griffin wrote:
Yeah, it makes highsec suicide ganking a little more problematic but that's not piracy anyway. It's just lame suicide ganking.

People here seem to not understand that piracy is more than ganking people in lowsec.

"Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence " - wikipedia

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Andrea Griffin
#99 - 2012-03-14 14:09:30 UTC
That's like saying Wiffleball is a professional sport.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Aine Ni
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-03-14 14:13:10 UTC
Got to love those Pirate Tears Twisted

HTFU - This is EVE