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ALARM: EvE is being directly controlled by Goonswarm

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#101 - 2012-03-13 22:48:19 UTC
Koranten
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-03-13 22:50:19 UTC
ps3ud0nym wrote:
Okay.. let me get this right. First OP says something along the lines of "A new player influx will never happen in EVE" then goes on to say that only numbers matter and that enough newbies in rifters can kill anything (Wah wah the blob). Which is it..? If there is no influx of new players, where would all these newbies in Rifters COME from?

I will give you this. I think that CCP is bending an ear and listening very carefully to what those in Goonswarm and TEST have to say. They would be monumentally stupid not to. When it comes to recruiting, both organizations have exactly the same ideas and both run neck and neck for some of the best new player training methods and materials in the game. You are talking tens of thousands of new players who have been brought in by Dreddit and Goonswarm alone. Lets just think about that. 10,000 *NEW* accounts is $149,500 a year in NEW revenue from subscriptions alone. Of course, between TEST and Goons over the last two years, far more than 10,000 new accounts have been created. A great many more. Dreddit alone gets between 200 and 500 applications a month, the vast majority from low SP characters who have just started or just re-subbed after a long absence. That means that TEST and Goons represent a increasing revenue stream for CCP.

With that kind of money on the line, you are really surprised that CCP takes a good hard look at the concerns raised by those new customers? Vets on the other hand, either are so engaged and have so much invested in the game that they are likely never to leave, or they get bitter or old or simply not interested so they stop playing. That is a player retention issue. As EVE continues to grow, obviously new player activations out weigh player churn. Vets are also less likely to buy ISK through the Plex system, so while they may get the requisite monthly fee from those accounts one way or the other, they are unlikely upsell them on other products available from CCP.

This is simply CCP listening to their customer base. TEST and Goons are very lucky to have a advocate such as Mittens, but you must realize that Mittens does what any good leader does: he finds out what his constituents want, and then he gets out in front and leads them there. He is very good at what he does, and he has the time and the energy to devote to his cause. There is no conspiracy here, just plain old good business sense and one extremely talented leader who knows how to get his constituents agenda actioned.


Sadly your logic is msot flawed, up until now not many people dared or ahd the strenght to poss a threat to Goonswarm/Test/Pets 40k man coallition, these few entities kept the state of 0.0 balanced one not being able to kill the other which kept the game dynamic and fun. One titans are nerfed there no single 0.0 entity capable of facing the Whole 40k man coallition hence it will grow and grow without any check which will in the future make the game unplayable and unfun.

If you dont understand this you know nothing about 0.0 and balance.

CCP has decided to shot themselves and break the fine balance that exited in 0.0, thansk god GW2 is comming.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#103 - 2012-03-13 22:54:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ladie Harlot
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Actually that's just the beginning of the conspiracy. GOONS not only control CCP they control much more. CCP actually controls all of Iceland which means they control the Icelandic Olympic Ski Team. The Icelandic Olympic Ski Team have cumulatively purchased all of the English Isles in 1987 which means they control England. The Declaration of Independence was never verified in a court of law meaning that America is still under English control which means they have access to the CIA which is in control of the Men in Black who have successfully overthrown the Zoobadian government at Alpha Centauri and have stolen their spaceships in order to take over the rest of the world!


Barack Hussein Obama is a FYAD Superstar.

trololol @ forum filters

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#104 - 2012-03-13 22:59:33 UTC
Koranten wrote:


Sadly your logic is msot flawed, up until now not many people dared or ahd the strenght to poss a threat to Goonswarm/Test/Pets 40k man coallition, these few entities kept the state of 0.0 balanced one not being able to kill the other which kept the game dynamic and fun. One titans are nerfed there no single 0.0 entity capable of facing the Whole 40k man coallition hence it will grow and grow without any check which will in the future make the game unplayable and unfun.

If you dont understand this you know nothing about 0.0 and balance.

CCP has decided to shot themselves and break the fine balance that exited in 0.0, thansk god GW2 is comming.


Because the massive superpowers of the past were never stopped from taking over all of EVE.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#105 - 2012-03-13 23:01:08 UTC
Kessiaan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2012-03-13 23:33:16 UTC
I've never been affiliated with the Goons but as a dedicated subcap pilot I have no interest whatsoever in seeing nullsec turn (even more) into Capitals Online.
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#107 - 2012-03-13 23:41:14 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Misanth wrote:
EVE, not EvE

≡v≡, not EVE.


EVE is spelled PvP
Everyone verses Everyone.
SpaceSquirrels
#108 - 2012-03-14 00:53:56 UTC
MontyDon wrote:
Kile Kitmoore wrote:
Op, you just scratched the surface.

Rumor has it that both Mittani and Hilmar Petursson are members of Skull and Bones. Please be careful, dig to deep and wind up in a ditch.

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you!


I hear Mittani also played an important roll in making the Subprime mortgage crisis happen


I'm not sure but you might have gone to high brow for these here forums.
Anthemius Heb
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#109 - 2012-03-14 01:03:26 UTC
Relax OP. GW2 is out soon. Big smileSmile
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#110 - 2012-03-14 02:08:07 UTC
Still not locked?Shocked

Ha-ha: IN!!!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Hexus Draidin
Intersteller Masons
#111 - 2012-03-14 02:25:52 UTC
If EVE is being controlled by GoonSwarm, why are the billboards not displaying porn and why do I have yet to see a bridge troll at a stargate? I are disappoint.

I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym 

Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#112 - 2012-03-14 02:32:41 UTC
hey crazy guy take your damn pills and stop playing video games lol
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#113 - 2012-03-14 02:35:35 UTC
I would point out everything the op had wrong, but i dont feel like typing tonight, plus he didnt post with his main so no respect.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2012-03-14 02:54:45 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
I love the goons just because of the amount of butt hurt they have caused you Big smile


this tbqh.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2012-03-14 03:01:44 UTC
I remember the last time i risked losing my job over a guild / internet clan. Oh wait that is right... I never have and never would.

Something clever

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#116 - 2012-03-14 03:08:06 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
THE GOONS ARE FUKIN IN AND YOU ARE FUKIN OUT -BY KENNY POWERS
WIS SHITCANNED
SUPERCAPS NERFED
TITANS NERFED
HISEC INCURSION IS NEXT
TREMBLE AND DESPAIR YOU MINDLESS RUNTS GRINDING FOR YOUR NEXT PLEX

Beautiful. Sounds like a rap.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Clyde ElectraGlide
Emara Entertainment Inc.
#117 - 2012-03-14 03:17:53 UTC
On the offchance this isn't a troll with all the blatant mis-spelling and overboard suggestions, you're saying that you'd rather have a group that doesn't generate conflict and content like the Goons do? Goons make for a more interesting Eve. It's a well-grounded opinion that should be fact.

In Need of a New Signature

Rukia Taika
Allied Operations
Mechanicus Macabre Immortale
#118 - 2012-03-14 06:54:44 UTC
Goons has made it claer and some day i will link that post of their awsome goal to destroy every MMO that is out there. thei name and leadership says it all and still cannot fight their way out of wet paper bag with a fleet of super caps
Lord Mandelor
Oruze Cruise
White Stag Exit Bag
#119 - 2012-03-14 06:55:27 UTC
WARNING OLD MEN WARNING
Tomiko Kawase
Perkone
#120 - 2012-03-14 08:20:17 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
I wish the Clusterfuck wasn't the only group of players in the game that actually cares about balance. Rather than quietly sitting on whatever one shot win button they've discovered. The only folks complaining about the Titan nerf are those that are too selfish to see the good this will bring.

Its not like the Clusterfuck combined has one of the largest fleets of Super Capitals in the game, which are also going to get nerfed alongside everyone else.


TEST has no titans~