EVE General Discussion

Done.

What does "Wormhole blue books" refer to? I have no clue what that is.

I added up all the sources: 59 trillion
I added up all the sinks: 30.5 trillion

ISK is entering the game at about twice the rate its leaving the game, the actual ratio being 1.94.

If incursions went away and we assume those players would go do L4 missions instead, the 8.556 trillion incursion ISK would become maybe 2 trillion additional mission ISK. Then the source/sink ratio would be 1.72.

Even if incursions went away we would still be having a huge influx of ISK, and we had that situation before incursions.

In the long run it will all level out. As prices move up industry becomes more profitable. After all if Trit was 1000/unit it would be silly to do incursions instead of pulling out the Hulk. All industry activities are ISK sinks (taxes, market expenses, etc). As people switch to them the number of players doing ISK source activities will go down and the number doing ISK sink activities will increase.

Eventually the economy will settle into a new equilibrium.

The way CCP has it set up is actually quite clever. The two main ways of making ISK, industry and PvE, tend to balance the economy. Prices drop, people switch to PvE, an ISK source. The ISK supply goes up, we get inflation, people switch to industry, and the ISK source is reduced. This is all because mission payouts and bounties are fixed while prices are free to fluctuate.

The best reason Ive heard for adjusting Incursion income (Which CCP is going to do, they have said so) is its far and away more profitable. There should not be a single answer to "what is the best profession". Incursions should be a little more profitable than L4 missions as you cannot solo an incursion in a Drake, you got to but more effort into getting to the point where you can to them well. But not as much as it currently is.

My proposal: Change the completion conditions to "all ships destroyed" rather than "hit all the triggers". That will slow down the rate of site completion to CCP's original intent. It also makes RP sense; why would concord want Sansha ships left on the field?

Also it'd be nice to see NPC Bounties dwarfing all on this list..... as a complete compairson is if you could add the ISK equvalents of the mineral faucets of moon goo & nano ribbons produced to show the complete story ( the trit mined & comparisions before & after bott bans would give you then the WHOLE inflation story - production ineffieciencies)

edit: bounties are in the list amounting to about 4 times Incursions had trouble seeing it since it was in middle of the list

That's exactly what CCP Soundwave was saying on page 2 when he said:




Probably the most amusing thing about the anti-Incursion ranting (of which I am somewhat guilty) is that the people that are anti-Incursion are the same people that have always been against high ISK incomes (especially in high sec). It boggles my mind that they aren't rejoicing that their wishes are being more than fulfilled - they're nerfing Incursions and looking at other things to change.

-Liang

CCP - please, for all that is holy, put out QEN's again? I mean, CRAP! We have to have something to chew on, and if it weren't for tweets (which I don't do) we would have very little real information...

Information and an informed player base is a good thing (although I can understand if not everyone at CCP would agree... ).

Maybe this will help inflation?




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This is a much more likely explanation. I've been playing this game for about two years now, and inflation has really not been much of an issue. PLEX is a very special case, as has been pointed out repeatedly. Ship prices have on the whole been stable or have actually declined in the long run.

The drone regions have historically produced a significant portion of the universe's minerals. Much of that supply was consumed domestically, but that still meant that the drone regions did not have to import alloys (whether as modules, in raw form, or as ships). That supply has been disrupted quite significantly for the past month, and now is probably going into complete freefall as the xDeath renter empire implodes. At the same time, there are two big wars ongoing that are consuming minerals at an enormous rate. There may also be speculative price bubbles due to the leaked patch notes that suggest drone alloys will be completely removed from the game in another month or so.

Speaking of those changes, I assume that CCP will introduce new alloy sources to offset the removal of drone alloys, or else will reduce the amounts of minerals required to build ships.