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[Ship Balance Issue] Battlecruiser Tracking
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John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-03-13 19:39:30 UTC  |  Edited by: John Maynard Keynes
I am new to eve. I think it is important that new players can play a meaningfull role in this game.
However, current game mechanics don't allow that.

Recently, my alliance has fielded 300ish Rifters with some noob ship support and tried to take sov from a smaller alliance. They had 100ish frigs and engaged us, everything went well for us. But then suddenly 30ish Hurricanes warped on grid and started to pop our rifters. Finally, we had to withdraw simply because our enemy was able to field Hurricanes.

Obviously, this game is broken! Hurricanes are a IWIN button in such battles. We can't do **** about it. Such game mechanics prevent small alliances from taking space.

Please like this post so that CCP finally becomes aware of this issue!!!

P.S: Luckily, the current CSM chairman is a friend of new players and small alliances and does care for the issues we face.
Please, write mails to The Mittani in order to make him aware of this problem! I am sure he will be happy to help us with this issue!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68476

I do this with a sincere and humble heart, knowing that only this noble spaceship personality can help new players and small alliances.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-03-13 19:43:26 UTC
And the only counter to hurricanes is obviously more hurricanes.
Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2012-03-13 19:44:06 UTC
I think the issue is that your fits are terrible. 300 Frigates against only 30ish Hurricanes should be a clear victory for the Frigates.
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-03-13 19:49:04 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
And the only counter to hurricanes is obviously more hurricanes.

You, as member of a small alliance must know this issue too well.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#5 - 2012-03-13 19:52:19 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
I think the issue is that your fits are terrible. 300 Frigates against only 30ish Hurricanes should be a clear victory for the Frigates.


Going with this. :)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
mama guru
Yazatas.
#6 - 2012-03-13 19:59:46 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
I think the issue is that your fits are terrible. 300 Frigates against only 30ish Hurricanes should be a clear victory for the Frigates.



300 riftres should wipe that field clean in like 30 seconds including locktimes assuming they are arty fit.

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
Lit it up
Phogi Inc.
#7 - 2012-03-13 20:00:32 UTC
I Support this idea! Roll
Alara IonStorm
#8 - 2012-03-13 20:03:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Oh funny enough the (Issue) the OP is talking about is being worked on. Not his (fix) but the issue of BC balance.

CSM Minutes and CCP comments indicate that T1 Frigates and Cruisers are getting a buff. CCP has said that to many players are skipping over Frigates and cruisers for BC Hulls.

So despite being able to handle the situation the OP describes they will be a able to do so even better in the future.
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-03-13 20:09:28 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Oh funny enough the (Issue) the OP is talking about is being worked on. Not his (fix) but the issue of BC balance.

CSM Minutes and CCP comments indicate that T1 Frigates and Cruisers are getting a buff. CCP has said that to many players are skipping over Frigates and cruisers for BC Hulls.

So despite being able to handle the situation the OP describes they will be a able to do so even better in the future.

Support me then plz.
Alara IonStorm
#10 - 2012-03-13 20:12:10 UTC
John Maynard Keynes wrote:

Support me then plz.

Nope, not until you remove the suggested tracking nerf from the OP because that hurts Cruisers who also use that weapon.

It isn't cut an dry like Titan tracking was.
Gypsio III
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-03-13 20:16:45 UTC
Try putting a tracking disruptor from each frigate on to each Hurricane.

After all, this is how tracking-Titans are countered... ohwait.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-03-13 20:25:58 UTC
Whoops...
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-13 20:31:03 UTC
Gypsio III wrote:
Try putting a tracking disruptor from each frigate on to each Hurricane.

After all, this is how tracking-Titans are countered... ohwait.

Too skill intensive...
Ivar Avar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-03-13 20:35:43 UTC
You realy need to get some hurricanes of your own or go after a smaller alliance that can't field so many hurricanes.
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-03-13 20:55:02 UTC
Ivar Avar wrote:
You realy need to get some hurricanes of your own or go after a smaller alliance that can't field so many hurricanes.

This issue must be dealt with
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-03-13 21:04:58 UTC
Nice troll, looks like you caught some people.

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Alara IonStorm
#17 - 2012-03-13 21:07:40 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Nice troll, looks like you caught some people.

Yeah, yeah it is all a reference to Supers, we all get it.

Shame he failed at picking numbers where his fleet has the advantage. Ugh
OfBalance
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-03-13 21:51:41 UTC
Posting in a "help we're loosing our moons to maelstroms," thread.
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-13 21:53:45 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
Posting in a "help we're loosing our moons to maelstroms," thread.

Thank you Sir.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-03-13 22:06:47 UTC
Bad example considering the 300 rifters would ownzone, but please keep crying over spilled titans.
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