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The Launcher seems to be a bit superfluous, CCP

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#1 - 2012-03-13 12:40:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
I mean, what's the point?

What does it accomplish beyond adding a few worthless social networking buttons?

I suppose it's fancy that there are links to account management and whatnot on it, but considering that for the most part these were already on the login screen, what's the point?


/me leaves confused Straight


e: TL;DR - what advantages does this launcher have over the old system (apart from appearing more polished, and lagging up my computer)?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Garmon
Gods Holy Light Bringing You're Penance
#2 - 2012-03-13 12:41:49 UTC
Apparently having to retort to fresh new installs when patching doesn't go your way, are going to be a thing of the past
I like Duncan
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#3 - 2012-03-13 12:43:10 UTC
I can't imagine that those are a widespread occurance, though.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Cindy Marco
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-03-13 12:44:01 UTC
Garmon wrote:
Apparently having to retort to fresh new installs when patching doesn't go your way, are going to be a thing of the past


Allegedly, that has yet to be proved. :p
Rengerel en Distel
#5 - 2012-03-13 12:44:37 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
I mean, what's the point?

What does it accomplish beyond adding a few worthless social networking buttons?

I suppose it's fancy that there are links to account management and whatnot on it, but considering that for the most part these were already on the login screen, what's the point?


/me leaves confused Straight


e: TL;DR - what advantages does this launcher have over the old system (apart from appearing more polished, and lagging up my computer)?


I guess it was to give people one more thing to ***** about, so it worked!

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2012-03-13 12:46:45 UTC
No need to load (and reload (and reload)) the entire client just to apply patches.
Easier migration of patch data.
Better support for delta patches and for built-in recovery and repair of the client.
Allows for resumed downloads if your connection goes down.
Provides a solid foundation for future improvements such as custom install data paths.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#7 - 2012-03-13 12:52:04 UTC
Tippia wrote:
No need to load (and reload (and reload)) the entire client just to apply patches.
Easier migration of patch data.
Better support for delta patches and for built-in recovery and repair of the client.
Allows for resumed downloads if your connection goes down.
Provides a solid foundation for future improvements such as custom install data paths.



As someone else said in thiis thread, 'allegedly" Big smile

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-03-13 13:01:23 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
As someone else said in thiis thread, 'allegedly" Big smile
Well… yes. But the theory is sound. Blink
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#9 - 2012-03-13 13:09:06 UTC
I found one thing it's actually good for.

Multiple installs. I installed one of my multiple clients, copied it to another, then I tried running the launcher same time I played on one install.. and it worked fine! Earlier the game would never allow me to install stuff same time I played.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-03-13 13:11:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
its just another reduction in ccps resistance to mainstream fluff in mmorpgs.

CCP dont change what you do, we like you for you stop with all this conformity you are loosing yourselves to the suits!

We put up with spacebook just

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#11 - 2012-03-13 13:12:10 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
I mean, what's the point?

What does it accomplish beyond adding a few worthless social networking buttons?

I suppose it's fancy that there are links to account management and whatnot on it, but considering that for the most part these were already on the login screen, what's the point?


/me leaves confused Straight


e: TL;DR - what advantages does this launcher have over the old system (apart from appearing more polished, and lagging up my computer)?


Did you even bother reading this Dev Blog?

Adapt or Die
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#12 - 2012-03-13 13:17:20 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
its just another reduction in ccps resistance to mainstream fluff in mmorpgs.

CCP dont change what you do, we like you for you stop with all this conformity you are loosing yourselves to the suits!

We put up with spacebook just


It's not a matter of conformity. It's a matter of efficiency. I for one hated having to start up the client, wait for it to load only to be told that I have to download a patch, then restart the client, wait again, then be told that I have to install another one, start over, then be asked once more to install another patch that my client somehow missed in the first two updates in the past 5-10 minutes.

In other words, it was rather inefficient with the update mechanic before today's new launcher.

Adapt or Die
Whim Aqayn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-03-13 13:19:19 UTC
Just wondering if theres a way to disable this. I think its annoying.
Djakku
U Subbed M8
#14 - 2012-03-13 13:20:57 UTC
It doesn't work, lol.
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#15 - 2012-03-13 13:22:25 UTC
Back when hilmar was buying league of legends characters while wearing 1000 dollar pants he noticed it and decided we needed it.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#16 - 2012-03-13 13:22:35 UTC
Whim Aqayn wrote:
Just wondering if theres a way to disable this. I think its annoying.


*Coarse digitally-demonic voice*

WE ARE CCP. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

Adapt or Die
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#17 - 2012-03-13 13:25:26 UTC
Also if there are no patches to be deployed if you have these settings in the launcher checked eve will work in its previous ways.

- Only display the launcher window when there is an update

- Close the EVE Launcher after starting EVE Online
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#18 - 2012-03-13 13:28:33 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:


Did you even bother reading this Dev Blog?



I did, Mr. Aliastra alt man, however - regardless of what a few people from Iceland write - my opinion of this launcher is the same.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-03-13 13:34:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Efficiency......

Yes, it's very efficient to have a useless program taking up 64MB and CPU cycles while doing absolutely nothing, especially since it already accomplished it's task of launching the client.

Now, if it would close after client launch or maintain some usefulness beyond launching the client, perhaps it wouldn't be so bad. Perhaps access to the skill queue from this screen might add to it's usefulness?

As a matter of efficiency, it currently leaves much to be desired.....

Edit: Found the settings button. There are options to only use it when updates are deployed and to have it close after client start-up.

Don't ban me, bro!
Mikal Red
Vanguard Research
#20 - 2012-03-13 13:37:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Mikal Red
Whim Aqayn wrote:
Just wondering if theres a way to disable this. I think its annoying.

From the dev blog
Quote:
You can chose to only show the Launcher if there is an update to the game.


Mr Kidd wrote:
Now, if it would close after client launch or maintain some usefulness beyond launching the client, perhaps it wouldn't be so bad. Perhaps access to the skill queue from this screen might add to it's usefulness?

Pretty sure it was mentioned in dev blog or patch notes that having it close on launching the client is a setting you can enable/disable. Or you could just do the above.

Edit: For those that can't find it

  1. Click the icon that's highlighted in this image
  2. Click Startup
  3. I'm sure you can workout the rest
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