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and if CCP remove Jump Freigthers ?
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kenxi
The Green Dollar
#41 - 2011-09-22 16:07:39 UTC  |  Edited by: kenxi
The OP in this thread needs to be beat or pod killed until he quits for suggesting something so dumb. He must not be able to fly one and there for thinks they should be removed.
/ sarcasm on
Heres a thought lets remove.......
Battleships to big and powerful we can't have that why its unfair to the nooblets
frigs dam those little buggers are fast let get rid of those!!
Industrials everyone should have to move things in 100unit cargo holds yay!!
you have a pod? O hell no you should go boom with your ship!
/sarcasm off

OP would you just like god mode so you can fly everything? WoW Is that way have fun!---------->



Please lock this thread for being an epicly stupid troll

The % of morons is always greater than what you would expect it to be unless you always assume 100% of people are morons
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#42 - 2011-09-22 16:49:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanilla Twilight
kenxi wrote:
The OP in this thread needs to be beat or pod killed until he quits for suggesting something so dumb. He must not be able to fly one and there for thinks they should be removed.
/ sarcasm on
Heres a thought lets remove.......
Battleships to big and powerful we can't have that why its unfair to the nooblets
frigs dam those little buggers are fast let get rid of those!!
Industrials everyone should have to move things in 100unit cargo holds yay!!
you have a pod? O hell no you should go boom with your ship!
/sarcasm off

OP would you just like god mode so you can fly everything? WoW Is that way have fun!---------->



Please lock this thread for being an epicly stupid troll


are you stupid or what ? i'm not sugesting to KILL hauling, i'm sugesting to NERF it. JF makes hauling stuff to 0.0 too damm easy. Industry died in null sec because is easier buy everything in high sec and jump it to 0.0. Move things with transport ships not with fuckin frigates.

or maybe i should be pod killed a lot of times like you > http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=kenxi#losses
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#43 - 2011-09-22 16:51:03 UTC
Ingvar Angst wrote:
Messoroz wrote:
Ingvar Angst wrote:
Messoroz wrote:
CCP Greyscale I believe in the previous forums stated 26% of ABC comes from wspace. HOWEVER 75% of all coveters in game are lost in wspace and 25% of hulks as well or something to this tune. These stats combined are ridiculously better than anything null has :P

Please. You realize that more covetors are lost in wormholes because the increased danger of mining in there pushes pilots with a clue into flying covetors to minimize the cost of the expected losses, right? Most people mine with covetors so they can afford the expected losses. Not only that, you can't get a hulk into a C1 and out again. Besides, with nothing but the rare grav spawn to mine, it's a few days a month with long dry spells without any rocks at all. You can't blame wormholes for any ABC problems when that grav site only gave us 15K and it never replenishes.


Reread what I said, then realize I am going to **** up the talun channel later now to make fun of your illiteracy.


No doubts you will. Big smile

However, you worded it such that it appears you're stating things are better in wormholes because people are only losing covetors, not hulks. If 74% of ABC is being mined in null, and they're only showing 25% of covetor kills and an unknown percentage of hulk kills (low and high sec numbers missing from the kills) then that implies null being the safer place to mine? They appear to be mining at least 3x the amount as wormholes, and that seems a bit low.



I stated that 25% of ore is coming from wspace, to counter the hole O NOES MARKET WILL **** if null cant use JF. But I also said the number is NOT one from out of control mining, on the contrary the death statistics of miners fits quite well.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#44 - 2011-09-22 16:56:06 UTC
Let's make null worse than it already is.

Good idea OP.
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#45 - 2011-09-22 16:58:43 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Let's make null worse than it already is.

Good idea OP.


null sec doesnt exist anymore, its all DCF now
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2011-09-22 17:02:25 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Just remove mining and industry.
This is the fix.


You're a ******.
Byshop Kayl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2011-09-22 17:15:11 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
kenxi wrote:
The OP in this thread needs to be beat or pod killed until he quits for suggesting something so dumb. He must not be able to fly one and there for thinks they should be removed.
/ sarcasm on
Heres a thought lets remove.......
Battleships to big and powerful we can't have that why its unfair to the nooblets
frigs dam those little buggers are fast let get rid of those!!
Industrials everyone should have to move things in 100unit cargo holds yay!!
you have a pod? O hell no you should go boom with your ship!
/sarcasm off

OP would you just like god mode so you can fly everything? WoW Is that way have fun!---------->



Please lock this thread for being an epicly stupid troll


are you stupid or what ? i'm not sugesting to KILL hauling, i'm sugesting to NERF it. JF makes hauling stuff to 0.0 too damm easy. Industry died in null sec because is easier buy everything in high sec and jump it to 0.0. Move things with transport ships not with fuckin frigates.

or maybe i should be pod killed a lot of times like you > http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=kenxi#losses



Except that JF's aren't used nearly as much as "Cloaky" Rorqs, and Super Caps.
Impact would be minimal to zero.

 "Sanity is the playground of the unimaginitive." -- Anonymous "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results." -- A. Einstein
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#48 - 2011-09-22 17:18:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanilla Twilight
Byshop Kayl wrote:
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
kenxi wrote:
The OP in this thread needs to be beat or pod killed until he quits for suggesting something so dumb. He must not be able to fly one and there for thinks they should be removed.
/ sarcasm on
Heres a thought lets remove.......
Battleships to big and powerful we can't have that why its unfair to the nooblets
frigs dam those little buggers are fast let get rid of those!!
Industrials everyone should have to move things in 100unit cargo holds yay!!
you have a pod? O hell no you should go boom with your ship!
/sarcasm off

OP would you just like god mode so you can fly everything? WoW Is that way have fun!---------->



Please lock this thread for being an epicly stupid troll


are you stupid or what ? i'm not sugesting to KILL hauling, i'm sugesting to NERF it. JF makes hauling stuff to 0.0 too damm easy. Industry died in null sec because is easier buy everything in high sec and jump it to 0.0. Move things with transport ships not with fuckin frigates.

or maybe i should be pod killed a lot of times like you > http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=kenxi#losses



Except that JF's aren't used nearly as much as "Cloaky" Rorqs, and Super Caps.
Impact would be minimal to zero.


Cloaky Rorqs and Super Caps can bring 170000 Modules with 1 jump ? no, they cant, JF can.
Princess Cellestia
Friendship is Podding
#49 - 2011-09-22 18:33:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Cellestia
Clearly you are illiterate. Mining in nullsec died because its too dangerous, there isnt enough ore, and the isk per hour is terrible. That is if you ever get to mine at all. Train a ratting carrier and stop being so damn stubborn. There is no nullsec mining, there is DRF botting for highs and high sec botting for lows. Removing JFs isnt going to fix that, you cant remove anything to fix that. You want to destroy eve in its entirety. I'm also pretty sure that you dont live in null sec at all and have no idea how many minerals a low sec industrialist goes through, 100 miners wouldnt be able to keep up, even 200 wouldnt. And there isnt an alliance in nullsec with 200 people stupid enough to mine. If you mine in nullsec you are an idiot. You will never make money, you will die, over and over and over until you have nothing.

All the miners I know have either moved their mining alts to high sec or quit all together. JFs wouldnt make a difference, if someone is psychotic enough to mine industrialists fight over their ore, until they start demanding **** like 5 isk per unit of trit they we say screw that and continue to import. Even if you removed JFs, compression, and everything else we'd still import, but it would suck and most industrialists would just say **** it all and quit. That's what you'd get, because mining in null and industry are ****. They are terrible, by trying to make it more terrible you are a bad person and you should feel bad.

TL;DR, op is a bad person for trying to make the game even worse and he should feel bad.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2011-09-22 19:33:13 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
null sec doesnt exist anymore, its all DCF now

And our jump freighters shall blot out the sun

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
S0ns Of Anarchy
#51 - 2011-09-22 19:48:40 UTC
Vanilla Twilight wrote:
and if CCP just remove Jump Freigthers, the Industry and Mining in 0.0 would be fixed ? Roll

The main problem with mining and industry in 0.0 on my point of view is that is easier to bring things from high sec to 0.0 then mine or build them in 0.0.


Did they remove titan portaling freighters? It was planned somehow but then so is rebalancing Angels
valerydarcy
Doomheim
#52 - 2011-09-22 21:13:37 UTC
Nak hak wrote:
Keep JFs.

Once something is given, never take it back. Ah,.... that don't work on my ex-girlfriends. Roll



cheer up goth

Post with your main™
Long John Silver
Doomheim
#53 - 2011-09-22 21:28:30 UTC
Yes, remove jump freighters... and why not all jump drives whilst you're at it.

And get rid of bubbles too....

Now that would be nice Twisted

**Long John Silver **| Pirate Alt and Forum Troll.
Vanilla Twilight
Partido dos Trabalhadores
#54 - 2011-09-22 21:44:41 UTC
lets get off all the ships, FiS is dead anyway. Monocles are the future
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#55 - 2011-09-22 22:08:54 UTC
Princess Cellestia wrote:
....


you are official the smartest pilot in test. brilliant post! +1.

OP: TLDR version of Cellestia's post: you're a jackass

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Princess Cellestia
Friendship is Podding
#56 - 2011-09-22 23:20:10 UTC
Denidil wrote:
Princess Cellestia wrote:
....


you are official the smartest pilot in test. brilliant post! +1.

OP: TLDR version of Cellestia's post: you're a jackass



Quite, but I know 2 thing, large scale nullsec mining, and large scale nullsec industry. And everything you've said so far shows you don't know anything about either. Do some research and talk to some industrialists and miners before yammering on about making life even more of a living hell for us.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#57 - 2011-09-23 02:44:33 UTC
Princess Cellestia wrote:
Denidil wrote:
Princess Cellestia wrote:
....


you are official the smartest pilot in test. brilliant post! +1.

OP: TLDR version of Cellestia's post: you're a jackass



Quite, but I know 2 thing, large scale nullsec mining, and large scale nullsec industry. And everything you've said so far shows you don't know anything about either. Do some research and talk to some industrialists and miners before yammering on about making life even more of a living hell for us.


were you talking to me, or op?

i was saying that OP is a jackass.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Princess Cellestia
Friendship is Podding
#58 - 2011-09-23 02:55:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Cellestia
Denidil wrote:
Princess Cellestia wrote:
Denidil wrote:
Princess Cellestia wrote:
....


you are official the smartest pilot in test. brilliant post! +1.

OP: TLDR version of Cellestia's post: you're a jackass



Quite, but I know 2 thing, large scale nullsec mining, and large scale nullsec industry. And everything you've said so far shows you don't know anything about either. Do some research and talk to some industrialists and miners before yammering on about making life even more of a living hell for us.


were you talking to me, or op?

i was saying that OP is a jackass.



Actually all the dumb in the eveo forums confused me, I thought you WERE the op. And I am very very sorry for that. This place makes one into a bad person, and a worse poster. I took what was a serious post as sarcasm.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#59 - 2011-09-23 03:00:40 UTC
Princess Cellestia wrote:
Denidil wrote:
Princess Cellestia wrote:
Denidil wrote:
Princess Cellestia wrote:
....


you are official the smartest pilot in test. brilliant post! +1.

OP: TLDR version of Cellestia's post: you're a jackass



Quite, but I know 2 thing, large scale nullsec mining, and large scale nullsec industry. And everything you've said so far shows you don't know anything about either. Do some research and talk to some industrialists and miners before yammering on about making life even more of a living hell for us.


were you talking to me, or op?

i was saying that OP is a jackass.



Actually all the dumb in the eveo forums confused me, I thought you WERE the op. And I am very very sorry for that. This place makes one into a bad person, and a worse poster. I took what was a serious post as sarcasm.


didn't help it was a serious post delivered in a silly fashion.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#60 - 2011-09-23 03:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Princess Cellestia wrote:
You are a bloody fudging IDIOT if you think supers are built by JF hauling. Supers are built by building caps in lowsec, then jumping them up to the alliance/super building area with a station in it or next door, then the capitals are reprocessed into the parts needed. Done with a **** ton more "cargo" than a JF.


Uh, no? Most supercap builders outsource compression to pubbies or mineral compression services. Building a bunch of archons takes a LOT longer than building a pile of battleship guns, citadel torps and laser crystals, and your BPOs cost many, many times as much as those for the pile of high-ratio ammo/mods.

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