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PIRATES: CCP LOVES YOU AND WANTS YOU TO STAY IN EVE (Revised Post)

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fgft Athonille
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-03-12 20:39:22 UTC
any1 who cries about game changes is a pathetic spineless carebear and should get the hell out

adapt or die mofos. if you dare let a tear form in your eye you have failed entirely as pirate. take your pirate cards out of your belongings and go find your nearest carebear to have a good cry about things
Laura Marhsal
The Echo Underground Project
#22 - 2012-03-12 20:58:14 UTC
lol
rage much
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
#23 - 2012-03-12 21:11:21 UTC
It's your own fault you have bad sec status. You should only be fighting in other players in BattleGrounds anyway... Wait wut game am I playing again?

Seriously though, I can kinda see both sides of the argument. On one side, sharing the sec status makes it too easy for groups of pirates to fix their sec status by shooting one rat in each system. On the other side it makes it ridiculously tedious to fix for something that is pretty much a core concept of the game - shooting other players. (And I know just how tedious it is. I went from -10 to 0 by myself... doing low sec missions. So you can imagine how f-ing long that took.)
Im Super Gay
Investtan Inc.
The Republic.
#24 - 2012-03-12 22:32:58 UTC
fgft Athonille wrote:
any1 who cries about game changes is a pathetic spineless carebear and should get the hell out

adapt or die mofos. if you dare let a tear form in your eye you have failed entirely as pirate. take your pirate cards out of your belongings and go find your nearest carebear to have a good cry about things


"Herp derp adapt or die cuz it makes me sound badass when I say that. You should just take it up the ass over and over again like me without complaining, because someone might be annoyed by you speaking out."
fgft Athonille
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-03-12 22:55:56 UTC
Im Super Gay wrote:
fgft Athonille wrote:
any1 who cries about game changes is a pathetic spineless carebear and should get the hell out

adapt or die mofos. if you dare let a tear form in your eye you have failed entirely as pirate. take your pirate cards out of your belongings and go find your nearest carebear to have a good cry about things


"Herp derp adapt or die cuz it makes me sound badass when I say that. You should just take it up the ass over and over again like me without complaining, because someone might be annoyed by you speaking out."


this is such a minor change that has little impact on anything pirate related so i dont understand why all the tears.

if a carebear cries as much as you guys have they would be openly mocked.
if a goon scam vicitim cries they are openly mocked.
if somebody loses plex in kestrel and cries they are opnely mocked

considering this is a pointless thread attempting to rally idiots to vote d3, i think openning up and crying everywhere accomplishes nothing. a true pirate and griefer doesnt use carebear whine tactics, they play the game to extract tears
Lady Spink
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-03-12 23:16:51 UTC
D3 I just gave you 10 votes, now send me that plex!!


Anyways, i support your actions!
Erwin Castle Jakuard
Tear Pool
#27 - 2012-03-12 23:38:27 UTC
You can buy me thrashers or supply isk for my hatred towards pods, you cover jita, ill cover amarr PirateTwisted

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Erwin+Castle+Jakuard
Kessiaan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-03-12 23:49:36 UTC
All you need is an alt with an Orca. Good sec. status is entirely optional.

Grinding up from -10 gets old really quick...
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#29 - 2012-03-12 23:52:13 UTC
One more reason to ignore low-sec entirely, except as a way to get to 0.0. *shrug* It was already broken, which is why I don't do anything but pass through.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Skadi vonNiflheim
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-03-13 00:10:18 UTC
So in other words, true pirates wont give a ****, if you want proof go find -10 or the Heretic Army. NRDS wont give a **** either. Please Mr CSM tell us who actualy suffers? Some suicide ganker in high sec who needs to keep there sec status high enaf to keep doing it? If anything I salute CCP for doing this, piracy is a crime and a criminal record should not be that easy to get rid off.
rareden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-03-13 01:46:43 UTC
sign me up, getting tired of ccp nerfing everything, games gona die if they continue this
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-03-13 01:51:15 UTC
Buying and fitting Thrashers and Catalysts as we speak. I will be putting them in an Orca and shitting them out for anyone who wants to turn them into glitter for a good cause.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#33 - 2012-03-13 02:41:55 UTC
I won't even say I'm opposed to this change. It could be a good thing. I certainly see how the "old way" made it too easy to repair sec status. However...

Darius III wrote:
The very fact that they did this without disclosing it to the players


Stealth changes like this SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. Period. CCP's war on piracy needs to stop.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Buck Futz
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-03-13 02:59:32 UTC
I suicide ganked another 13 Exhumers + 4 pods today in honor of this thread.

One Phoon, 2 Tornados and 4 Cats gone to a better place - costing me around 170M in hulls.
Recovered / unfit most of the expensive gank mods (T2 Arty) into the waiting Orca.

Oh, and look - I've got 13 Intact Armor plates and 12 T2 Harvesters, plus assorted other mods worth around 280M, so I guess it was a profitable evening for me, netting almost 100M ISK.

The ice miners, (well, botters) on the other hand, lost about 2.75 Billion in Hulks, Macks and implants.

Not a bad evening.
Kiwi Momaki
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-03-13 04:14:00 UTC
What can be more delicous than Pirate & Ganker tears!!!! Well other than CSM tears I guess.. Lol
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#36 - 2012-03-13 04:54:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Feldman
Skadi vonNiflheim wrote:
So in other words, true pirates wont give a ****, if you want proof go find -10 or the Heretic Army. NRDS wont give a **** either. Please Mr CSM tell us who actualy suffers? Some suicide ganker in high sec who needs to keep there sec status high enaf to keep doing it? If anything I salute CCP for doing this, piracy is a crime and a criminal record should not be that easy to get rid off.


Like I said before, this mostly affects casual roaming gangs through lowsec. New corps that want to introduce their members to PVP on a lowsec roam before bringing them into nullsec. It might not affect true pirates that are already -10 in the regard that they aren't going to sec up to begin with, but in terms of getting fights, a lot of groups that might have used lowsec as a casual PVP outlet will no longer do this.

The people that suffer are people who occasionally like to pew in lowsec to mix things up because they don't want to be tied to ONE style of gameplay or one profession in EVE. People keep soapboxing that its good that pirates have consequences, except they already did. During the CSM5, the general consensus was that lowsec was broken and now all of the sudden theres nothing wrong and a change that has broken lowsec even more is no big deal?

Its a pity that more CSM candidates aren't bringing this up as this is a fairly important topic from a gameplay and stealth nerf perspective.

EDIT: Just realized I probably replied to an RPer. Whoops.
Aggressive Nutmeg
#37 - 2012-03-13 04:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Aggressive Nutmeg
Buck Futz wrote:
I suicide ganked another 13 Exhumers + 4 pods today in honor of this thread.

One Phoon, 2 Tornados and 4 Cats gone to a better place - costing me around 170M in hulls.
Recovered / unfit most of the expensive gank mods (T2 Arty) into the waiting Orca.

Oh, and look - I've got 13 Intact Armor plates and 12 T2 Harvesters, plus assorted other mods worth around 280M, so I guess it was a profitable evening for me, netting almost 100M ISK.

The ice miners, (well, botters) on the other hand, lost about 2.75 Billion in Hulks, Macks and implants.

Not a bad evening.

Firstly, can I just say: That's a beautiful post. Proper highsec piracy (not griefing) that turns a profit. Nothing wrong with that.

Now onto the topic...

I don't like the fact that CCP did this unannounced. Poor form there. It's challenging enough for semi-newbies like me trying to work out the precise game mechanics and timings, without secret changes being made!

But it might be a clever move by CCP to increase subs? I'd expect a bunch of single-account pirates now creating a second account for an Orca pilot.

Plenty of respectable pilots out there have a second pirate account already. Some people lead double lives in the real world. Some people lead double lives in Eve.

Also, can we position a few Thrasher-crapping Orcas in Dodixie and Amarr? Everyone expects to be ganked in Jita.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.

Dead Loss
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-03-13 06:53:46 UTC
Sweet Capsuleer Tears supports this outcry.

We will be placing a Thrasher and Catalyst crapping Orca on the Odatrik gate in Rens.
ScooterPuff Sr
Shenanigans Mining Hub
#39 - 2012-03-13 07:21:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ScooterPuff Sr
not a cool story. biomass is that way ->
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-03-13 07:46:12 UTC
I hope this CSM chump jumps off his soap box with a noose around his neck.

Yes, really jump hard and get all excited over sec status. LOL last I checked if you were a pirate it didn't bother you so much. Now EVE got harsher and you actually get a consequence of your risky action....more grind to fix it up. Run rampant across highsec and now its going to hurt, this little change keeps you in check.

To bad CCP can't add an isk penalty as well. As your sec status gets lower, taxes get applied causing your market transactions to go up in price, contracts fees increase, penalty cost for manual trade in station, jump gate toll charge, med clone increases like a combination of contraceptive and child support costs Twisted. Hah! This version of EVE would be glorious! You would actually have a Butthurt Oops moment of very harsh consequences to your actions Lol