EVE General Discussion

You mean, like being in an industrial ship and warp scrambled kinda useless? Learn to play. Learn to fit ECCM. Learn to primary the falcon first. They really are not that hard to kill.

Proliferation at it's worst

FoF enough said

People wine because its the stunn, and every one wines about being stunded, even tho its slow,and defence debuff that kills them.
Why because, the stunn makes you feel helpless and a slow or a debuff makes you feel challenged, thats why.


P.S. people make dedicated ECM alts less because its sooooo gooood and more so that its just dose one thing on a few hulls and thats it. Why make a latchie or Rapier alt? Well people do it's just that over time that alt gets in to other ships because they use Ewar skills that are usefull on other ships, what dose a falcon alt level to after falcon?

lol ECM white knighters. faclon alts detected.

The all or nothing chance based mechanic is not very interesting. Also, to me even its current form feels like it's some remnant of an age past where it was intended as an intermediate step en route to developing something better.

ECCM is ineffective counter ECM is the answer. There is a superior jammer out there but you need the ability to think outside the box to find it. 95% of EVE players don't have this ability, fit MWDs, need to listen to an FC, and need pre-posted fitouts. Reason game is in the sad state it is now.

threads like this one make me wish CCP would hire RIOT's Zileas and give him free rein over the game design of EVE.

killing the game would be a small price to pay for the look on OP's face once all anti-fun mechanics have been removed.

The Falcon alt is a depressingly common occurrence in small gang or solo PvP.
I assume that the people who do it, cry and flagellate themselves afterwards in penance to their monumental faggotry.
There is no question that it gets results. There is little the opposition can do, when they can do nothing.

I have an alt, that can use falcons. But to date my humanity and dignity has prevailed, and I have never used it to gank some brave lone wolf.

Perhaps ECM should be changed to prevent new target locks or changing which target your modules are engaged with. This way, it will be pointless in solo engagements. And that bait ship at least will die as it should under a righteous hail of gunfire.

But in a multiple enemy engagement, if ECM is working, you will be unable to activate on anything else, once your initial target is dead.

1. It is common for people to have high-sec alts. This is a typical sign of an OP mechanic.
2. ECM may not scale in fleet fights, but drone boats completely ruin ECM boats in small gang engagements more than half the time. Think about it.
3. Nothing is risk free. Nothing. See also: Smartbomb camp breaking.

Stuff in Eve has counters.

Smart people find them.

I wonder what sort of people start whine threads?

ECM can be overpowering to small groups, but like everything there are many ways to counter it. i'm of the opinion that the other races methods need fixing. I mean, do many people use sensor dampners, or tracking disruptors? If you do, that begs the question, why not just use ECM? I remember first training up to fly an arazu, and being really disappointed with crappy sensor dampners. Oh well, i thought, best start training for a falcon.