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at 20 mil sp you will lose you way: eve dies
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Haulin Gneiss
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-03-12 07:03:11 UTC
cosmos missions: 84% done
Lvl 4s. mastered
Exploration missions: done
Mining missions: done

Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators.

Can fly most ships under carrier. check.

SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys.

Now...insert forum hounds comments.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-03-12 07:04:48 UTC
PvP?
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-03-12 07:22:32 UTC
Carriers.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Sarmatiko
#4 - 2012-03-12 07:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
From the first post it's obvious that you have no idea what WH is. You also missed or failed incursions.
You didn't tried lvl 5 missions completion with bombers/or anything.
You didnt tried FW missions.

"Can fly most ships under carrier" - really makes me laugh. You cant actually fly all with 20 mil sp noob character, you only managed to sneak in the ships cargo bay with your capsule.

You can jettison your cheap stuff, I dont want it.

Bear
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#5 - 2012-03-12 07:54:51 UTC
It's sad what the world has come to.

Sounds like you want your mother to come and build your sandcastles for you, and bring new, shiny toys.

Oh and at 20mil SP you can barely fly some subcaps from one race decently.


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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2012-03-12 08:00:32 UTC
I'm well over 50 mil SP and still only sratching the surface. Perhaps you should do what I have done for the past year and master a ship, and by master I mean learning everything about it and how to use it not just train up everything for it to V.
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
#7 - 2012-03-12 08:03:32 UTC
ONE character with 20mil SP? Pathetic.

Then again, more carebear content would be always nice. Bear

Yay 10 years! :D
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-03-12 08:05:10 UTC
You have literally experienced less than 5% of EVE.


bai
Garmon
Gods Holy Light Bringing You're Penance
#9 - 2012-03-12 08:08:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Garmon
What makes eve different to other MMOs is that there's so many different possibilities for your end game, it's only limited by your determination

By the sounds of things

1. You've lived in highsec all your life, got bored
2. Joined a random 0.0 alliance and didn't like the serious business structure that they had

For 1, I think the main purpose highsec has is just to get you used to the game, apart from casual players, a lot of people get tired of highsec eventually, but like I said highsec is great for casual players that just wants to relax after getting home from work

And for 2, I understand where you're coming from with this because it's just a game, but for people in nullsec alliances, it's more than just a game, they've worked hard and for years for what they have achieved, it's considered acceptable for them to take things very seriously for these reasons

What I'd suggest is, focus on making friends if you haven't already, get your self and your friends excited about the prospect about pvping in low sec / 0.0, maybe even form your own corp with them, and have fun! You could also try some solo pvp out, if you can afford it, learning through pvping in assault frigates will teach you a lot, the ships them selves are very strong now too since crucible 1.1, if you can't afford it, flying frigates will teach you the same lessons

There's quite a few options available for you, small AF gangs, t1 cruiser gangs

All it takes is some effort, initiative, and most of all, determination, and you're golden

Edit : If you tell me where you're specialized in, I could give a few ideas on what you could fly
I like Duncan
Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
#10 - 2012-03-12 08:21:21 UTC
Yeh i was gonna say Im at 30 mill SP and while I can SIT in most sub-cap ships that does not equate flying them well at all.

If your looking for PVE content you chose the wrong game. 99% of the PVE content is only good when your running it with other people and is painfully boring by yourself.

Even then theres more PVE content than what your talking about. They mentioned LV5 missions which can be interesting as they are only in low sec. Theres pirate missions in null which are another beast considering their location though you may want to start another toon for those as they can be very bad for your standing with the empires. Theres also the epic arcs. Theres 6 besides the SOE ones i believe the 4 factions and Gurista and Angel. WH space has a lot to offer but is VERY boring by yourself. Nothing worse than being trapped in a wh for weeks on end. I swear you get cabin fever in there.

Also you may not know but there are Landmarks in eve if your the type thats like to travel and see new locations. Theres a website but i cant seem to find it atm.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-03-12 08:24:52 UTC
I'm at 21m SP and I can count the number of ships this character can fly well on one hand.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-12 08:28:54 UTC
scimitar, hurricane, uh... yeah.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-12 08:39:22 UTC
If you play EVE like your typical MMORPG yes you will indeed get bored after around 6-12 months.
If you play EVE like the sandbox no end-game masterpiece that it is, then you will never enjoy another MMORPG again.

I suggest joining a corp with some chill people, it will make EVE far more enjoyable.
You don't have to PvP even though I highly suggest it, you can spend all of your time doing PvE.
Doing L4 missions is hardly scratching the surface of PvE in EVE.

EVE is about player interaction and conflict. Other MMORPGs are about running scripted quests and dungeons. PIck one.
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-03-12 08:51:11 UTC
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#15 - 2012-03-12 08:56:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
Calling bullshit. I've got 28M SP in spaceship command alone and I am barely able to fly most subcaps. Hell, still can't fly Black Ops with Liang. -_-

-Liang

Ed: Also, this should help you some: http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-03-12 09:28:59 UTC
Haulin Gneiss wrote:
cosmos missions: 84% done
Lvl 4s. mastered
Exploration missions: done
Mining missions: done

Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators.

Can fly most ships under carrier. check.

SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys.

Now...insert forum hounds comments.


Everything you just listed there is a single player scripted activity, yet you are playing an MMO... Perhaps you need to reevaluate your goals.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-03-12 09:41:28 UTC
70mil sp char confirming that the game died when I hit 20mil sp, I just keep training because I heard there's a cookie if I get everything to 5
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-03-12 09:41:29 UTC
Intresting, I've 23 million SP and I can't fly ****, on the otherhand what I can fly I fly rather well.

but concerning PVE content, I find probbing site's a rather nice and intresting way to do PvE, especialy when you do them in area's that hold more risk.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-03-12 09:48:32 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ItTlNpBRXOA/TcjZWeareOI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cBLzMQJ0lKs/s1600/evefun1.png



This is worryingly accurate ¬¬
Obsidian Dagger
Nitrus Nine
#20 - 2012-03-12 10:01:56 UTC
I'm homing in on 60 million SP, and still have not anywhere near mastered everything subcap. Or even most. I can get in a lot of HULLS to be sure, but saying you can fly most everything subcap at 20mill SP is just... Daft.

I think I have more than 20 mill in just ONE racial hull tree at this point, with a LOT of work still to do on everything.

Focus less on choosing hulls, train your support and survivability skills, and spend more than a couple hours doing any one activity before you give up on it!

Also, play in groups, it's an MMO after all. Fleets = fun even if all you do it sit around at a safespot and talk about exotic dancers and the Damsel.
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