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Hardware junkies: Any laptops capable of running EVE comfortably?

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Jaque D'Amarr
#1 - 2012-03-11 04:24:37 UTC
I've recently been "promoted," to a position that is going to have me first relocating and then traveling a good deal. I've traditionally been a desktop man and even built the last few systems myself, but I am far from a guru and feel completely out of my element with laptops. That said, I will be forced to get my hands on a laptop soon or face the agony of trying in vain to locate net cafes all over the world when I need an EVE fix.

Any suggestions as to which company makes a good gaming laptop or if there are currently laptops that won't fry under the pressure? The last one I had (granted this was quite a few years ago) could have easily cooked eggs after running for an hour. Battery life isn't much of an issue as i'll be using it in-situ at the hotel or office where power is avalible. Cost is not a huge deal either, but I am loath to buy anything from the boutique brands like alienware since most of the price is markup for the name and the silly decals.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#2 - 2012-03-11 04:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
ASUS "republic of gaming" is a great brand and much less of a rip-off than Alienware is, if you search hard you can find them at great prices in some retailers below listed price. I consider it to be good value, especially the g74s A2 and up. It wont have any problems with EVE, also make sure to get the a good model because they comes with different specs depending on whatever, god knows. But for less than a thousand euro you should be able to get one with i7 processor, 16gb RAM and a geforce 560. It will handle any game to date at perfect settings with no heat issues or the like.

You can get better for less if you build yourself, depends if you can be bothered with the hassle or if you are fortunate to know someone or you have a great local shop that does it for you at very low cost. Maybe even craigslist can help you there.

Not sure how Macbook handles or if EVE has mac support? But my Macbook pro a few years old kicks ass and handles games like Star Craft 2 amazingly well and every time I use it to play it makes me think that Microsoft is a ******* terrible software developer...

So a brand new smacking mac book pro might be worth it, similar cost at 1000 euro, more mobile, longer battery life and will outlast any PC. So might be worth going that route and don't worry about support, almost all software today is developed or has equivalent software made for Mac.

Looking for the model I got is difficult it seems, http://www.asus.com.au/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G74SX/#specifications many different specifications. The one I got which is the best really, costed me 2000 euro the 3de variant but with 2 SSD and 2 7200RPM drives and also backlit... why can'tI find the model I own Lol

The most expensive one on amazon for 2500 USD is worse than what I got half a year ago for 2000 euro.

Whatever, good brand nevertheless.

I am sure others can recommend great laptops. Google did let me know that the Asus one has yielded a ton of editors choice awards across the world. So be sure to read up on whatever you decide on.
Jaque D'Amarr
#3 - 2012-03-11 05:08:22 UTC
Thanks for the info, i'll give asus a look. I'm not mac-phobic, but don't have a shred of mac experience, so i'd have to be highly impressed to cross over that way.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#4 - 2012-03-11 05:23:27 UTC
Jaque D'Amarr wrote:
Thanks for the info, i'll give asus a look. I'm not mac-phobic, but don't have a shred of mac experience, so i'd have to be highly impressed to cross over that way.



ASUS is worth a look for sure, just make sure to find it at the best retailer with the best spec. There seems to be like, not kidding, 50 different specs on the G74, they are all good but you could end up getting mine for 2000 that is better than another for 500 more with worse specs. So make sure to hunt.

As far as mac goes, I use to hate it, be under the belief they are terrible at gaming and what not. But when I was given, in the end someone had to shove one down my throat Lol because my laptop at the time broke (**** you acer.) I learned quickly how easy they are, great at everything and just full of awesome sauce. There I had made fun of mac users for years but I guess I was wrong all along. No need for virus software (you said WHAT??) No really, I can run Star Craft at max settings with no issues on my asus but my mac can run the game great with spec x20 times worse Shocked It is like, whatever a mac has in specs a PC need x5 times that to perform just as good, the Microsoft OS is really a piece of ****.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro

17-inch: 2.4 GHz
2.4GHz quad-core
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4GB 1333MHz
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Built-in battery (7 hours)2
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Not bad and I love my asus (it also does 3d so...) but this macbook pro (mine is older and a lot worse) I am sure can do everything much better than any PC laptop on the market including 5k Alienware (except 3d :D weee) with those specs at similar cost. It will also be more mobile and be used when there is no plug. Maybe if I put Linux on my Asus it will kill the macbook with ease?! but Linux is too much for me to handle, iOS is user friendly.
Jaque D'Amarr
#5 - 2012-03-11 05:30:49 UTC
Didn't realize there was that much variation on asus specs, I see what you mean!

Oh and I share you fear of Linux. I set up an old pc of mine with Ubuntu (supposedly the most user friendly variety) and nearly had a stroke trying to get any functionality out of it. Of course I know some computer science folks at work who live and die by the kernel, but as an idiot with a degree in the arts it's all greek to me. Lol
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#6 - 2012-03-11 05:46:12 UTC
Jaque D'Amarr wrote:
Didn't realize there was that much variation on asus specs, I see what you mean!

Oh and I share you fear of Linux. I set up an old pc of mine with Ubuntu (supposedly the most user friendly variety) and nearly had a stroke trying to get any functionality out of it. Of course I know some computer science folks at work who live and die by the kernel, but as an idiot with a degree in the arts it's all greek to me. Lol



Exactly Lol I gave up after a few days trying it out once. I could not handle it at all, especially when it came to running games on it.

iOS on a mac-book pro is as easy to use as an iPhone. I have only ever had 1 issue with my Mac and it was because I spilled coke (not the white kind) all over the keyboard and had to replace the mouse pad (free of charge though.) On any PC in my life I have had 1 million software related issues and they always end up being dead bricks after 2-3 yearsShocked. Is there such a thing as a PC Microsoft OS user not having problems? Don't get me started on the Windows 7 registry...

I even spent a few years back console whoring because I could not be bothered with PC gaming due to always having to deal with bullshit. Windows Vista was terrible also, at least windows 7 is better but it does less than XP and does it worse needing more resources.

Next computer I buy will be latest Macbook, or maybe iPad 3, looks pretty damn cool so far. My Asus shall be my last PC, I do love its 3D Big smile

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2012-03-11 09:33:12 UTC
Don't forget the the general rule of thumb when you are looking for a laptop; performance, price and portability. You can pick two of these.

And on the contrary to 2bhammered, I have repeatedly had terrible customer experience with Apples crap and Apple Care to the point that I am beginning to think I am pretty much ******* entitled to bloody carnage.

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2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#8 - 2012-03-11 15:48:40 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Alpheias wrote:
Don't forget the the general rule of thumb when you are looking for a laptop; performance, price and portability. You can pick two of these.

And on the contrary to 2bhammered, I have repeatedly had terrible customer experience with Apples crap and Apple Care to the point that I am beginning to think I am pretty much ******* entitled to bloody carnage.



Your experience no doubt bad is the opposite of what I had. I spilled coke and ruined my computer, they fixed it for free changing hardware even though that was not covered in the warranty I had. Apple is a massive company all over the world, customer support may vary, same goes for dealing with any other big company in any industry. Overall they have a very good track-record when it comes to consumer support and they have a small % of filed consumer complaints compared to many others. Also since we are talking hardware here it is easy to file complaints, suits and even use several third parties to act on your behalf like your bank and credit card company etc.

But I live in Europe so we have laws protecting us unlike corporate AmericaBlink I remember when 360 had red rings all over the place, it took a class action lawsuit in the states to give consumers an extra 90 day warranty. In the EU we had an automatic 2 years on that problem (1 year on any problem) and Microsoft even went as far as to promise free fixing for more than that 2 years time to "get good PR!".

Apple in my experience is great, both in terms of products they make but also for when it comes to their support.

In fact, I have already decided to get an iPad 3. My laptop is so awesome and powerful (no battery and weigh a ton) that it is a desktop PC in reality. Sure takes less space and I can move it easier but...

Man the iPad 3 looks awesome, can't wait to play iOS games on it.

(obviously for certain things like games such as EVE an iPad 3 wont be enough, best of 2 worlds is what I am going for here, or 3 worlds if we count my Galaxy phone.)
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-03-11 16:04:35 UTC
2bhammered wrote:

But I live in Europe so we have laws protecting us unlike corporate AmericaBlink


Nice try. But I live in Europe as well.

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2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#10 - 2012-03-11 16:18:17 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:

But I live in Europe so we have laws protecting us unlike corporate AmericaBlink


Nice try. But I live in Europe as well.



Nice try what? Lol

Actually, judging by your reply I am now forced to not be taking you serious anymore.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#11 - 2012-03-11 16:46:51 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Obsidian Dagger
Nitrus Nine
#12 - 2012-03-11 18:02:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Obsidian Dagger
If you get an ASUS, they are great laptops. Excellent warranty, 2 years for the machine and 12 months for the battery, rare in the laptop world! As an extra bonus they usually have a worldwide warranty too.

Also look out for a cheaper version of a high end model. For example, the old Lamborghenie(sp?) models that sold for around £1000 used the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD as the £350 model of the time. The main differences were in low cost parts like HDD and RAM and a slightly better CPU.

Asus machines also usually have interchangeable graphics cards, although the cards are unique to Asus, they CAN be swapped between asus models quite easily.

If you do your research you could easily build the equivelent of a top end Asus gaming laptop for less than half the cost.

Or just buy a kickass top of the line ROG machine right off the bat.


(Ex-Asus warranty repair tech, has seen all this first hand. Used to make a game of upgrading the scrapped machines with faulty parts and then sticking them back in the 'dead' pile for the office workers upstairs to thief)
Just Lilly
#13 - 2012-03-14 01:47:17 UTC
Asus solved their laptop thermal issues?

I know quite a few of their gaming laptops melted in 2010 and some in 2011.

If it was a design-flaw or just 2 much stress on the hardware, I don't know.
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-03-14 09:22:28 UTC
Obsidian Dagger wrote:
If you get an USUS, they are great laptops. Excellent warranty, 2 years for the machine and 12 months for the battery, rare in the laptop world! As an extra bonus they usually have a worldwide warranty too.

Also look out for a cheaper version of a high end model. For example, the old Lamborghenie(sp?) models that sold for around £1000 used the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD as the £350 model of the time. The main differences were in low cost parts like HDD and RAM and a slightly better CPU.

Asus machines also usually have interchangeable graphics cards, although the cards are unique to Asus, they CAN be swapped between asus models quite easily.

If you do your research you could easily build the equivelent of a top end Asus gaming laptop for less than half the cost.

Or just buy a kickass top of the line ROG machine right off the bat.


(Ex-Asus warranty repair tech, has seen all this first hand. Used to make a game of upgrading the scrapped machines with faulty parts and then sticking them back in the 'dead' pile for the office workers upstairs to thief)

Lambo was Acer, I think, model. There also was a Ferrari, but I don't remember which maker used that one.

But yes. I know exactly what you mean about buying cheaper model. I have Acer Aspire 3xxx model lappy, the 5xxx is the same only it has more stuff like bluetooth and webcam built into the lid. From looking inside my cheaper model, I could probably add bluetooth module, there is a switch for it on the front of the lappy, but it is not connected to anything since the module is not installed.

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Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-03-14 14:02:35 UTC
I got an Asus, and two of my friends do as well, thet work just fine. Mine can run 2-3 eve clients easily enough.
Obsidian Dagger
Nitrus Nine
#16 - 2012-03-14 17:01:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Obsidian Dagger
Caleidascope wrote:
Obsidian Dagger wrote:
If you get an USUS, they are great laptops. Excellent warranty, 2 years for the machine and 12 months for the battery, rare in the laptop world! As an extra bonus they usually have a worldwide warranty too.

Also look out for a cheaper version of a high end model. For example, the old Lamborghenie(sp?) models that sold for around £1000 used the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD as the £350 model of the time. The main differences were in low cost parts like HDD and RAM and a slightly better CPU.

Asus machines also usually have interchangeable graphics cards, although the cards are unique to Asus, they CAN be swapped between asus models quite easily.

If you do your research you could easily build the equivelent of a top end Asus gaming laptop for less than half the cost.

Or just buy a kickass top of the line ROG machine right off the bat.


(Ex-Asus warranty repair tech, has seen all this first hand. Used to make a game of upgrading the scrapped machines with faulty parts and then sticking them back in the 'dead' pile for the office workers upstairs to thief)

Lambo was Acer, I think, model. There also was a Ferrari, but I don't remember which maker used that one.

But yes. I know exactly what you mean about buying cheaper model. I have Acer Aspire 3xxx model lappy, the 5xxx is the same only it has more stuff like bluetooth and webcam built into the lid. From looking inside my cheaper model, I could probably add bluetooth module, there is a switch for it on the front of the lappy, but it is not connected to anything since the module is not installed.

Might have been the ferrari. Stupid big yellow casing on it. I never saw more than two come in though. I just found it amusing that it had the same mobo as a far cheaper model.

The bluetooth modules are fairly easy to get, I added one to my current Acer when I was rebuilding it from scrap parts. BT was never part of it's original spec but the connector was on the mobo.
Velarra
#17 - 2012-03-16 15:29:21 UTC
I run eve on a mac book pro from several years past (2008) Penryn 2.6ghz / Nvidia 8600 512 .

With bootcamp ( http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1461 ) Windows 7 boots and plays eve perfectly fine. You'd never know you were on apple hardware.

Apple hardware tends to be really good, if at times a bit too good, or cutting edge. It's best bought carefully due to product tiers (extremely & overwhelmingly basic, intermediary (never quite enough), Incredibly high performance or feature laden)

Apple seems to love making its users beta testers when releasing a new piece of kit. Furthermore just like any computer builder/manufacturer it's not perfect. When / if issues do creep up "Apple Care" warranty support tends to be really good and well worth the extra cost beyond the basic 90 days/1yr service (in North America at least).

The above kept in mind, Eve + a Macbook Pro make a great combination if you're running it with Win7 via Bootcamp.

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Note i've not really mentioned the OS X Eve client. Unfortunately there is no native Eve client, Instead there's a version of it that's run within a wrapper / windows-like environment as far as eve's concerned. You might want to wander the Mac client user forum here on the Eve-O site before considering installing the OS X Eve client.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#18 - 2012-03-17 16:15:56 UTC
I run eve on a 2 year old dell studio 1555 running duel clients on the native monitor + a 24inch monitor. 30fps on medium settings for both clients.

That said the whole portability, price and performance (pick two) thing is quite true. My laptop is a desktop replacement really. I can and do carry it around but its big and hot when its running, especially large because I picked the 9 cell battery that adds to the size.