Jita Park Speakers Corner

I dare say you'll feel dumb when that statement comes back to bite you on the bum. As for the vote. I want to open the door and so does Issler. She has my vote.

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I don't think changing mechanics is the way to do it - if it's to be changed, do it solely with the interest of making mining better/more interesting for miners. If it makes scripts harder, then so be it, but it shouldn't even be a consideration, more of a happy coincidence if it works out.

This is supposed to be it.

Issler Dainze CSM 7

Please double check since I've voted and it doesn't seem to let me confirm.

Thanks!

Issler

Personally after spending litterally hundreds if not thousands of hours mining I would like to see botters computers explode. The worst thing is that after all these years and a special team to stop botting it just isn't putting a dent in it. I just find it very frustrating that some piece of scum is botting and gaining an unfair advantage. In the recent ice attacks by the goons they noted alot of bots ice mining. The current attempts to spot this are not effective enough and something needs to be done.

On a happier note I think the ideas for helping the newbies are really on the right track, I'm not sure if a simple tag would be enough but yes I definitely believe we are on the right track here.

I must say thanks to Issler for letting us highjack his post:)

Frying Doom

Sorry someone already said this but it's just habit as only 5% or so of the EVE population is Female. The number of people who play female however is a lot higher so over the years I have got in the habit of saying he, that way I'm more likely to be right:)

Ok this is going to be a bit of a long one covering the newbie mentor program.

I would like to thank Tallian Saotome of Fatal Ascension and Snow Axe of GoonWaffe for their ideas. I almost forgot to thank Issler Dainze for allowing me to run this idea in her post. (I left it here as it was developed here)

What I am currently proposing is that all Newbies enter a pool effectively like that for the Rookie Channel (probably using the same info that allows people onto that channel, except with the added requirement that the account the character is on is not a buddy or other added account and isn't a plex accountand the account is less than 60 days old)

At the same time allow people to opt in to a mentor pool. Give this pool some kind of criteria, possibly a time frame like 6 months + active for the account.

Allow the newbies to do a tutorial quest to teach them how to use the mentor database. Have the mentor list showing things like Name, Age(of Character), number of jumps away from mentor and scores previously given to the mentor by previous newbies. Also a button to allow a chat to be opened to the Mentor before accepting (also removing the mentor and pupil from the lists for the duration of the chat, preventing a mentor from being overwhelmed)

Have a panel similar to this for the mentors to access with access to the newbie information like age of character, amount of time played (Allowing the mentor to see if the current activity level of the player fits in to his own) and how many jumps to get to the newbie.

Allow a simple pop up like the one currently used for fleet invites to allow a mentor invite.

Now the hard bits are the rewards for the mentors. I agree with Tallian Saotome that a corporate reward system is probably a good place to start. This will allow CEO's to set up a structure within their corp to allow newbies to flourish and give something to the Corp as a whole. I'm not sure about Tallian Saotome's idea of increasing tax rate mostly because of the current inflation in the game it's self. With PLEX's rising at a fairly allarming rate and mineral prices rising as well. I suggested a leveled system for corporations to assist this as well (but I don't think that is right either). So what I am going to suggest is that corps should get a 1% reduction per newbie up to 10% in a reduction in the price of medical clones, repairs, insurance costs and production costs at npc stations.

For the mentor himself I recommend the addition of an in-game and in-forum tag, similar to the DEV and CSM tags you see on people now.(As suggested by Snow Axe)

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For this I recommend that an easy ability for the newbie to remove them self from the mentor be established so that way if the mentor does us them as a personal slave, the pupil can get out simply, I also recommend the ability for either the mentor or the pupil to cease the relationship easily as sometimes personalities clash.

I agree that a corporation is an integral part of this process, for it to succeed corps have got to want newbies. I also feel the need for the newbies at the end of their tutelage whether from time or they leave the current mentor need to be able to rate the mentors performance. Allowing an averaging of this score and possibly a pop up on comments to appear on the Newbie Mentor screens for others to see.

For the future of eve we need not just us regular bar flies but need blood to move the game forward. I personally hope EVE will be around in the distant future so I have something to play if I ever make it to retirement:)

In addition to this I feel that additional tutorial quests and and an expansion of the lvl 1 quests are needed to intice players to stay and play.

Please feel free to leave any helpful comments and suggestions as I think this is a good idea on a way forward for the game.

Frying Doom

I'll have to take your word for it. Can't stand the stuff. But feel free to enlighten us with what must be plenty of first hand knowledge.

And remember. A vote for Mittens is a vote for Mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE.

Mr Epeen

Actually I would have gone for "And remember. A vote for Mittens is a vote for a community. A vote for Issler is a vote for the EVE community.

I noticed you really dodged the a vote for mittens there. Is this because a vote for mittens isn't a vote for eve? As it goes into in Sins of a spy master 75
http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/75
Goons are recruited from Somethingawful.com quite often before they have even commenced playing EVE. So goons are recruited outside the EVE community, then they are surrounded and nurtured by the Goonswarm fleet. Never having been real newbies or having been a part of the EVE community as a whole. This probably explains why a large part (I will admit not all) of the goonswarm fleet seem so different from us.

And on your post a vote for issler is not all about Wis, there is so much more to this game and she has made her opinions clear to all who look.

I will admit I myself would prefer a lot more done with Wis. That is due to my belief that Newbies are the way forward. If things stay as they are and CCP can see no expanding profits they may decide to sell the game or focus on another game again like they did before with Dust and World of Darkness.. Then who knows what will happen to the game it might even become Pay 2 Win Yuck.

In all honesty no problem. I do strongly believe that knowledge is always a good thing. I would be a bit bit weird getting annoyed that you learned something from one of my posts :)