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Rogue Bagel
AAC AND BA
#1 - 2011-09-22 17:17:49 UTC
Greetings capsuleers.

I have been living in a c3 WH (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/J134118 note bonuses) for a couple of months now. So far it has been a buddy and I running sleeper sites in "spider tank" drakes, but recently I have trained up tengu skills and plan to bring one in for some extra pwng. My question is: is it possible to put together a fit that could solo the sites while my buddy is offline and then maybe switch out a few mods when he is online and resume with our "spider tanking". Would it be as easy as slapping on a shield transporter and dropping the self shield booster from the solo fit? Hopefully it is possible and I won't have fly a drake ever again :p

Thanks in advance for any helpful answers.
grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-09-22 19:31:47 UTC
I personally would have just gone solo passive drake it works just fine in a C3.
Sadly you cannot change subsytems in a wh, and you would need to do this to get the bonuses to be able to do either really well, so you should probably just go with a solo fit.
BTW you have also just given all the wh gankers a nice place to park a scanning alt Shocked
Aethis Rex
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-09-22 20:20:38 UTC
News flash, I am going to guess that OP's w/h is not the first to use a Tengu. Most C1/High sec W/hs are good for parking atls.
grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-09-22 23:43:05 UTC
Aethis Rex wrote:
News flash, I am going to guess that OP's w/h is not the first to use a Tengu. Most C1/High sec W/hs are good for parking atls.



Yeah I know that, have lost a few myself. But I figure no point in advertising the fact.
Vjorn Angannon
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#5 - 2011-09-23 04:24:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Vjorn Angannon
Is it possible? Yes

Is it optimal? No

Tbh, you'd be better off setting up 2 different tengus for the jobs required. However, with that said, this is what I came up with in EFT real quick.


[Tengu, Rogue Bagel Active]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Combat Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix


537 omni tank under CV-3 effects (remember to always keep moving for damage mitigation)
545 max dps with furies
715 m/s max
46% max cap stability (remember that Sleepless Upholder neut's out to 70km)
faction SB is about 400m on contracts last I checked



[Tengu, Rogue Bagel RR]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix


978 omni tank with Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter on you
545 max dps with furies
715 m/s max
48% max cap stability (again, remember that Sleepless Upholder neut's out to 70km)

Hope this gives ya something to play around with.

Edit: Notice the wasted rig in the RR setup; but without it in the active setup, the tank could be dangerously low.
Rogue Bagel
AAC AND BA
#6 - 2011-09-23 18:32:12 UTC
Thank you for the response Vjorn, I am thinking you are right about having 2 separate ships fitted for both jobs. Didn't realize that you can't refit subsystems from within a pos. The fittings you posted look like they will work, not sure about neuting and webbing sleepers though. Also, would that solo tengu fit have enough tank for the 2-3 bs site?

And to those who plan to waste months of time looking for my WH system to gank me, good luck. Blink
grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-09-23 19:46:09 UTC  |  Edited by: grumpyguts1
This is what I use. Cap stable. I use CN scourge for cruisers and frigs and scourge fury for BS. 600-700 dps omni tank with resists over 70% is all you need to get through the anoms.


[Tengu, C3]
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer_2
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node_2
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix_2
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay_2
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers_2

Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster_2
Large Shield Extender II_2
Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field_2
Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field_2
Invulnerability Field II_2
Dread Guristas Explosion Dampening Field_2
Cap Recharger II_2

Damage Control II_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II_2
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II_2
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I_2


EDIT - Below is what we use in the Class 4, so it will be more than enough for C3 RR

[Tengu, C4]
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer_2
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor_2
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay_2
Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding_2
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix_2

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter_2
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Large Shield Extender II_2
Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field_2
Invulnerability Field II_2
Invulnerability Field II_2
Cap Recharger II_2

Damage Control II_2
Power Diagnostic System II_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I_2
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II_2
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II_2
Comy 1
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-09-23 19:53:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Comy 1
How much isk are you willing to spend? Since you can easilly local tank all anomalies, and with some clever movement also local tank the mag site with tripple upholder BS (even if I don't recommend doing it solo just in case. tank untill the two scramble frigs dies should be no problem though if you are fine with warping out) while having 6 launchers and a target painter.

The downside is that it would probably cost about 1.8 - 2 bil isk with the current module prices.

edit: the big price comes from being able to get that target painter while still having a sufficient tank without going down to 5 launchers, since it will allow you to deal full damage with fury missiles vs the cruisers if you have maxed skills. the dps increase will not show up in eft but it makes a HUGE difference in a C3 where you mainly face cruisers.