Jita Park Speakers Corner

while i don't claim to be an expert to be on bot-eradication i certainly don't think legalized botting will help the situation. right now botting still has certain barriers:
- you can get banned, and this risk has increased due to the fact that now characters flagged with bot infraction cannot be traded.
- you have to have a level of expertise
- many botting software costs RL $

without these barriers everybody and their 2 cats would start botting, and you will see exponentially more destruction to industry than existing RMT motivated botters. do you think the average player using the legalized bots stand a chance in the botting arms-race with the organized RMTers?

abuse of schedule one narcotics is a really big problem in USA, would you combat that with legalization? no you combat that with rehabilitation, prevention, education, and most of all regulation and busting dealers.

as for other noob friendly places there are eve university and Red vs Blue, and why don't your corp take a bigger part in welcoming new players? since we are the "bad" guys you "good" guys should start doing your part to better the new player experience, every bit counts. and i don't see people complaining about PL and how elitist they are sheesh. whose fault is it when i see so many people posting here lamenting the lack of new player experience when they all seem to be in their 3 alt corps. i just find this very strange, even if they are all casual players doing the odd handful of missions on the weekend why do they refuse to stay with a corp even if they never fleet together, just stay for the chat channels, the corp mails and forums, as in like being part of a group community. how many corps do you see with descriptions like "we are casual, we do pvp pve industry basically anything if you are not a trial we will take you". they only have themselves to blame.

And how is that going for the USA? as opposed to countries that have legalized? TBH the main reason drugs arn't legalized in Australia is actually due to tax.



Yes I agree we should all do more to help newbies, lets face it the older EVE players are like bar flies they may ***** and complain but they will stay. Just like a bar however The bar flies cover your base costs and the new customers are what gives you profit and allows you to grow.

I've actually been trying to brainstorm an idea that will allow newbies to somehow reward corps that take them in in their first day or 2, and teaches them the game. Some sort of command they can issue once the account in a month or 2 old, if they have been in the corp continuously for that time since their first week. This would provide incentive to recruiting true newbs to a good active corp and teaching them EVE.

Maybe some kind of temporary tax multiplier(tax is set to 10%, corp makes 11% for the month after the newbie clicks the reward button)?

TBH What I thought was a reasonble idea was to give people a mentor role, so one on one time with a newbie for the first 30 days of the characters life, with the ability for either the newbie or the mentor to drop placing them back in respective pools (Mostly becuse sometimes personalities clash). During this time give the mentor a bonus to the SP they gain 10% or so(Most people seem to value SP above all else). This way the mentors gain something and so does the pupil and at the end of the term give the pupil a questioner to rate the mentor and post this list so future pupils can get a gauge on who to select.

I hope I was clear on what I was saying. Still coming off an illness and strangely the doctor put me on opiates for the pain lol

Same idea as mine, but you want to reward individuals. I am of the belief that the game itself is not going to keep people here(space really is pretty boring, no matter how many shinys) but rather the community. By rewarding corps, and in a way that rewards larger, ore active corps more than smaller, less active ones, you encourage people to accept newbies into their communities, where they will not only learn, but they will have a team to fall back on when they get ganked or whatever.

Ultimately, 2 core problems tho.

1) Easily exploitable. I could keep a 100% SP boost going for a 1 time investment of a single plex(You can get a plex back from a buddy referral, where the referral is activate by a plex, with 10 buddy invites per month to all have mark me as mentor)

2) Easily manipulated to turn newbies into personal slaves and be rewarded for it. If I go pick a random newbie, tell him I am gonna get him started in the game, give him 50 mil, and use him as my slave til the mentor bonus goes away, then tell him to bugger off, that is going to reward me for behavior that will ultimately make that newbie leave the game.I can make 50 mil in roughly an hour, but to a newbie its gonna seem like I am the richest man in eve, so he will think its legit.

If EVE were not the cut-throat game it is, your ideas would be wonderful, but CCP encourages us to abuse and exploit mechanics. (The rule is that unless its an obvious bug, we can use it til they change the mechanic)

A corp isn't as likely to do this, as they don't want dead weight screwing up their numbers(unless it is a newbie training corp) so they will teach the newbie to survive so they can help the corp.

Yes, I'm well aware of what schedule one drugs are. And although there is a difference between schedule one opioids being legal and the government handing them out for free, I would say it's a pretty thin line.

tl;dr somebody is wrong on the internet~

Sorry I will admit Im not very good at the EVIL side of the game (What I do in RL differs from what I will do in a game becuse its a game).

I was implying a 1 on 1 mentor scheme so a max 10% bonus but I think your idea is better looking at it. if it was done well enough people would actually fight over newbies rather than ignoring them. What about a corp xp system just based on the help provided to newbies, say 10-20 lvls (Yes its a bit WOW ish) to a corp and give them bonuses for each level higher tax for one maybe a better inertial rating. So then a corp who gets alot of newbies (Straight accounts not buddy or other deals) might be week in the SP of their members but will actually be harder to kill than non-newbie friendly corps?

No time to swap accts before I head off for the day.

Friendly bump to the top and confirmation of yet another Mr Epeen vote for Issler.

Again I want to thank you for your support, but I find myself having to ask more of you.

Getting folk in game that ignore the forums to vote is key to me having any chance of success. I need you all to help spread the word in game. Some other candidates have seen the momentum of the miner and are trying to jump in late and claim to be the miner's candidate as well.

They see the power the miner's really hold!

So please tell your corp mates, your alliances and your friends to support the miner's candidate! Please ask them to lend their support to my efforts to make sure miners are no longer neglected sub caste of Eve!

So please help spread the word throughout the 'verse that there is a miner that needs their help to get us a seat at the table! A long overdue and earned seat!

Miners Unite!

Issler Dainze
The MIner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate

you could hold a miner march to gather support!!!!!!!!!!!