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Mintrolio
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-09 11:41:32 UTC
*WITHOUT PREJUDICE*

En-masse mailing of electoral messages may only be performed by the candidate themselves. For any queries of other types of messages I'd advise contacting the GM team via the petition system.


let me drop character for a second and bear with me - THIS NEEDS DISCUSSION.

i run a multi-million dollar software company - mittens retiring is nothing. i understand i am slightly dislexic when it comes to keybaord typing, but never the less, i am sure of what i say.

the EULA does not discuss spam quantity.
the EULA does not discuss spam frequency.

the poasts in the forum about trebor's spam state (and i summarise for clarity OF YOU MITTENS PUBBIES - mittens himself or my own lawyers can clarify if you require):

its ok for a candidate to mail people as long as it is the candidate - it also says not more than once, but in a campage it would be safe to 'assume' that once per day is reasonable until the vote opens - so once must mean not more than once per day.

so.... according to cccp, i am able to send the same mail, daily, for my candidacy for csm 8. thats a long time - 365 days to be prescise.

i would really hate for anyone in TEST or GOOSESWAMP to wake up to this 'open door'

i hope ccp wake up. EULA and NDA are not tools to hide behind - they are 'legal' obligations. i know of a lawyer so successful that he retired. maybe he would like one last case............maybe he will take mine.

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#2 - 2012-03-09 11:50:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Louis deGuerre
[this comment would be really good in Dutch but sadly does not translate to English and retain its original quality - 'Brandstapel' was involved']

To summarize : Yes
Mintrolio
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-03-09 11:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Mintrolio
CONFRIMIGN PERHAP FUR CSM8 WE HAFIGN 500 CANDATE - ALLES OF THEM TEST OR GOOSESWAMP AND ALLES OF THEM STRAT TO MALE STRAIGT AWAY .

ALSO SERIOS CANDATE NEEDTO CAMPAGNE.

ALSO MAYBE MINE GOAT MAKE TUNE TO EVEMAIL WITH - GOAT IST VER SERIOS POLLYTICITANS.

KEEP UP THE GOOD POASTIGN!

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
Mintrolio
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-09 11:52:55 UTC
Louis deGuerre wrote:
[this comment would be really good in Dutch but sadly does not translate to English and retain its original quality - 'Brandstapel' was involved']

To summarize : Yes



IT IS INDEED A NASTI BOMBFIRE.

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#5 - 2012-03-09 12:31:57 UTC
Mintrolio wrote:
let me drop character for a second and bear with me -.


This is a sad day. Cry

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Mintrolio
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-03-09 12:33:57 UTC
Seleene wrote:
Mintrolio wrote:
let me drop character for a second and bear with me -.


This is a sad day. Cry


CONFRIMIGN IS SADS DAYS THET CCCP DO LETTIGN THIS THING TO HAPPENS.

I NO YOU IS AGRE TO.

GOOD LUCK YOU DIRTY -A- TURNSCOAT TO 'pl'.

KEEP UP GOOD POASTIGN!

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
Mintrolio
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-03-09 12:46:34 UTC
CONFRIMIGN I WISHIGN I NEFER STRAT THESE POAST.

ALSO KNOW I TRY TO SLEEP BUT ALLES I THINKIGN OF IST 3000 TEST AND 3000 GOON ALLES SENDIGN ME 6000 MAIL EVER DAY FUR THE CSM8 CANDATESY.

IS TERRIBEL (BUT VALID) NITEMARES.

KEEP UP GOOD POASTIGN!

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-03-09 14:58:46 UTC
Let me go into character for a moment:

IZ FEELIGN U OVRESTATE ZE PUROBLEM.

TUNE IZ KANDIDAYTE WEN AKCEPTAD BI CCP.

SO MALEING ONLI DURIGN ERECTIONS.

AND ONLI WUN MALE TU A TUNE IF PUSSYABLE.

UDDERWIZE CCP DIAGORAS BANHAMMUR UR ASS.

TREBOR FUR CSM7

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-03-09 15:07:57 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Let me go into character for a moment:


Confirming this is in character as it showed up in all of my characters' inboxes.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2012-03-09 15:08:03 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Let me go into character for a moment:

IZ FEELIGN U OVRESTATE ZE PUROBLEM.

TUNE IZ KANDIDAYTE WEN AKCEPTAD BI CCP.

SO MALEING ONLI DURIGN ERECTIONS.

AND ONLI WUN MALE TU A TUNE IF PUSSYABLE.

UDDERWIZE CCP DIAGORAS BANHAMMUR UR ASS.

TREBOR FUR CSM7



Dude...you're not doing it right..

Would you like a kitten?

Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-03-09 15:19:53 UTC
TL:DR

TREBOR DOING SOMETHING HE DID LAST YEAR

ONLY THIS YEAR ITS DIFFERENT BECAUSE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT WHO GETS ELECTED

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-03-09 15:38:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Mintrollo - you do realize that your making yourself look like a 3 year old right?

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Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2012-03-09 16:13:30 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Mintrollo - you do realize that your making yourself look like a 3 year old right?



uh oh....

Would you like a kitten?

Macon Chalaise
VNM Biological Survey Corps
#14 - 2012-03-09 16:31:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Macon Chalaise
Drake Draconis wrote:
Mintrollo - you do realize that your making yourself look like a 3 year old right?


TBH, plenty of people who started or complained in a "boo hoo trebor spammed his campaign" thread look like a 3 year olds.

Mintrolio can't win the personality prize now no matter what happens.

The goofy and occasionally amusing all caps badposter persona is gone.

He indicates he wants to be taken seriously by talking out of character. Fair enough.

He indicates that we should take him extra seriously because he runs a multi-million dollar software company. (Relevance?)

Then he threatens CCP with lawyers...

He may need new lawyers if he thinks that the EULA is a legal obligation in anything like the same way as "killing people is illegal when it is not in the defense of self or others or ones property or others." (Yes, I live in Texas.)

The EULA is an agreement between CCP and the customer. It's THEIR EULA, mhmm.

The best choice, imo, is to NOT be so vigilant and so ready to be offended in the first place. If you feel badly and angry about this it is PURELY by YOUR choice. I just deleted the emails and moved on.

Another answer to this problem would be to report the spam if one feels it is such and let CCP deal with it. (They already did and said limited campaign spam is allowed.)

You received in game emails campaigning at election time. Who cares? As Malcanis said, reflecting thousands of years of the same sentiment, it must be nice that this is the most important thing in some people's lives that they have the time and inclination to be SO angry and SO upset about something that doesn't even qualify as a fart in a tornado.

Trebor sending a round or two of election campaign spam doesn't matter a rat's ass in the long run.

Why can't people save all this for something that actually matters to the game?

Lawyers? Really? For a minor EULA complaint? REALLY?Blink

Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-03-09 17:17:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Macon Chalaise wrote:

He indicates he wants to be taken seriously by talking out of character. Fair enough.

He indicates that we should take him extra seriously because he runs a multi-million dollar software company. (Relevance?)




First Statement Reply: Seriosuly? (oh sorry bout the pun) The only thing I can take him to be is a (CENSORED) ****** but thats just me.

Second Statement Reply: Read first statement and then tell me that again.

As to the spam...there's a difference between screaming about being spammed by that idiot who calls himself a cannidate...and the fact CCP left a gaping doors worth of an exploit that can be used to make our lives a living hell when it comes to abuse of eve mail.

Spam by definition is unsolciated unaturhozied *did not give permission* unwelcome mail (electronic or not)...by that defiintion....its spam....end of discussion.

As to how people react...well that is their right is it not? No different than you calling them foolish for that right.

That is a contradiction to be sure.

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Macon Chalaise
VNM Biological Survey Corps
#16 - 2012-03-09 17:20:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Macon Chalaise
Drake Draconis wrote:
Macon Chalaise wrote:

He indicates he wants to be taken seriously by talking out of character. Fair enough.

He indicates that we should take him extra seriously because he runs a multi-million dollar software company. (Relevance?)




First Statement Reply: Seriosuly? (oh sorry bout the pun) The only thing I can take him to be is a (CENSORED) ****** but thats just me.

Second Statement Reply: Read first statement and then tell me that again.

As to the spam...there's a difference between screaming about being spammed by that idiot who calls himself a cannidate...and the fact CCP left a gaping doors worth of an exploit that can be used to make our lives a living hell when it comes to abuse of eve mail.

Spam by definition is unsolciated unaturhozied *did not give permission* unwelcome mail (electronic or not)...by that defiintion....its spam....end of discussion.

As to how people react...well that is their right is it not? No different than you calling them foolish for that right.

That is a contrdiction to be sure.


Um, sure...You sound just like Mintrolio and you feel the need to justify your attitude...with more name calling and meanness to support your emotional, not logical, position.

I agree that CCP may have opened a door to spam but I think it incredibly foolish to invest this much anger and upset on this topic. It's done. CCP got plenty of tickets about this and they know the players concerns. Move on.

P.S. Since candidacy comes with election time it would seem reasonable that CCP will have a zero tolerance policy to political spam outside of that time period because no candidates will exist who meet the correct criteria--confirmed candidacy. All CCP has to do is either change their mind and say "no more campaign spam" or set a few rules for around CSM election time with a time frame for fair use and harsh punishments for account holders who violate those rules.

Here's to fire. Not the fast and furious kind that burns down shacks and shanties, but the slow, seductive kind that takes down pants and panties - Irish Toast
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-09 18:53:01 UTC
The trouble with posting gimmicks is that inevitably they get old and you need to leave them behind.


Today, Mintrolio died.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-03-09 19:00:58 UTC
Macon Chalaise wrote:

Um, sure...You sound just like Mintrolio and you feel the need to justify your attitude...with more name calling and meanness to support your emotional, not logical, position.


Pot...Meet kettle.

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-03-09 19:19:24 UTC
Okay, let's lay some ground rules for the rest of this election.

1. Mintrolio is not allowed to drop character.
2. Trebor is not allowed to go into character.
Ovidia Rhianon
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#20 - 2012-03-09 19:58:38 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Okay, let's lay some ground rules for the rest of this election.

1. Mintrolio is not allowed to drop character.
2. Trebor is not allowed to go into character.


QFT
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