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Confessions of a CareBear
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Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-03-08 23:11:08 UTC
IntegralHellsing wrote:
It's all Goonswarm's fault Lol


and before that it was BoB's fault.

Stuff Goes here
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#22 - 2012-03-08 23:39:54 UTC
Zeet A'Dron wrote:
I have limited time each day. I require frequent afks most of the time (that is not to say I PLAY AFK, I safe up) .

I'm sick and tired of missions. PI is ok but that gets tedious. Exploration is great but actual WH living for a casual would be difficult.

I feel like the lone wolf is a dieing breed in this game. Maybe I'm wrong.....I want to know from you.

Obviously online games are made for players to be social but sometimes solo players just like being in the pond. I'm simply not a huge fan of Eve combat yet I struggle to find a MMO that makes me feel like I'm in space as I have a passion for cosmology in general. In Eve I get punished for trying to be immersive.

Eve generally triggers an autonomic response in me let over from my ancestor's genes when we were running away as prey. Its a double edged sword of a response akin to my roots: One minute I'm the hunter but when the torch goes out I'm now the hunted. Thats not relaxing.

I find Eve's vision of the future sad really. All the expanses of space and all the technology yet all there seems to be is war and destruction. I think optimimists play this game and some are known as care bears and are discouraged. In UO I could log on as my PK and cause Chaos but then I could log on as my tailor and tend to my plants.


I think thats probably the biggest divide there, people. Lots and lots of us want to enjoy space. Lots and lots of you want warfare and death and chaos.....but guess what? There's some that want to interact in a space universe who don't have at their core a desire to **** on someone else's pancakes that day. I'm tired of trying to carve a place in this universe between that crowd.

I've been with CCP on and off for a long time but I'm starting to feel the parting of the ways.

The cap game, Goonswarm, GamePlay = Headset, all of these things turn it off for me. Perhaps the game play represented historically by Goonswarm contributes in some way to the realism of the game. The fact that a goon was on the CSM sickens me. Eve has been a study for me in what I want from a game and the goons are the complete opposite.

The design idea of the mining vessel in general is another. The idea: miners are fitted for ore extraction so therefore must give up all defensive and offensive capability. The reality: gank fodder

Obviously the game is divided into two categories- the hunters and the hunted with casual gamers and fathers who change poopy diapers trying to find a place in between. I wonder what Carl Sagan would say of CCP's future vision.




carl sagan would say, TOLD YOU SO !

but hey dude,,,,, M assively M ultiplayer O nline R oleplaying G ame

not T iny S olo O nline R ole P laying G ame
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#23 - 2012-03-09 00:33:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Karn Dulake wrote:
You started off ok but you started to sound like a tard half way through but it rose a little at the end


Im a solo and so are a lot of the people here.

People play for lots of reasons and sometimes its not the way that you like


The true end game for me is not being in a giant alliance its living as a solo between the cracks

being the hunter but mainly the prey. Building an isk faucet and not having to log in at other peoples demand



1. If you want some fun try living in russian space
2. if thats to much go and live in lowsec for a while

3. if you are terrible at pvp go and play on SIS as its where all the solo leet pvpers spent there time


^^Basically, this^^

Give losec--or even ninja'ing into other peoples' nullsec--exploration and 'plexing a try, OP (I'm training into an Ishtar for that very purpose--don't get me wrong, I love the Tengu, but it's just too...common...plus, ExploTar/drone-whoring in general are new things to me, so want to try them.):

You can do this solo, and make some nice muneez in the process (plus I find the life of the explorer to be much more immersive, too--much more feeling of being out there in "the big dark," which other aspects of EVE sorely/completely lack.).

Karn Dulake wrote:
The true end game for me is not being in a giant alliance its living as a solo between the cracks


Re-quoting for massive truth!

E: Found the relevant thread--CCP Y U NO STICKY TREAD?--Read, young solobear, read!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#24 - 2012-03-09 00:34:51 UTC
Mr LaForge wrote:
IntegralHellsing wrote:
It's all Goonswarm's fault Lol


and before that it was BoB's fault.


And whose fault was it before BoB?

Had to be someone's eh? [/cynicism]

And so it goes...Ugh

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Mechaet
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-03-09 00:59:08 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Mr LaForge wrote:
IntegralHellsing wrote:
It's all Goonswarm's fault Lol


and before that it was BoB's fault.


And whose fault was it before BoB?

Had to be someone's eh? [/cynicism]

And so it goes...Ugh

m0o
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2012-03-09 02:28:19 UTC
Let me state your problem.

Eve is not a solo player's game. Eve is not a PVE game. Eve is not even a PVP game.

It is a game of politics and human dynamics.

If you try to engage in Eve but deny yourself any of the social aspect, it is probably the single worst MMO on the market.

But once you make some friends and start making deals, the potential reveals itself and you will never leave, because there is simply nothing like it.
Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-03-09 04:54:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Dbars Grinding
I am just here for the Pennnis spam in local.

I have more space likes than you. 
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#28 - 2012-03-09 05:06:48 UTC
People with no time playing Eve?

Well i never.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Darth A30NZ
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#29 - 2012-03-09 05:10:31 UTC
You can do anything in this world, absolutely anything.

Think about that for a minute you'll see what I mean.

New Eden Spotlight full episode list. 

http://www.youtube.com/user/NewEdenSpotlight/videos
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#30 - 2012-03-09 05:42:46 UTC
I'm not really sure what your gripe is exactly. Is it than there is open pvp or that the barges are too weak? I'll 100% agree on the latter but I really find the PvP aspect is what makes eve. Every time I buy something, its from another player and I can't merch stuff either. It' provides a real living world and, ya, sometimes people are gonna want to wreck your **** up and that's okay. That's what drives the game and provides a sense of suspense to even mundane activities.

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#31 - 2012-03-09 06:28:36 UTC
2012 is a big year for MMO's. Try some of them out.

CCP keep looking the other way. Players threw it in thier face by welfaring a Vindi win in last years Alliance tourni so they kind of fixed hybrid. Now the players are throwing it in CCPs face that the 250 mill Hulk can't survive a few destroyers in .7 sec and that's why they dont drop them out in Null. Leave for 5 or 6 months and everyone wins, everyone but CCP but maybe if they stopped ignoring the obvious.
Serene Repose
#32 - 2012-03-09 08:57:10 UTC
Carl Sagen would say EVE is a great, wasted potential, and he'd blame CCP. Hoodlums, vandals and psychotics are dealt with decisively everywhere but here. Here, they're kowtowed to by a corp that also ridicules them behind their backs. That the viscious, meany old ganker-pirates haven't figured that out yet is testimony to their general lack of intelligence.

Sophistication, and advanced thinking are as valid an expectation in this "so-called" game, as in the legendary real life. (Odd, the gankers like both names, depending on what's convenient to them - sandbox, and game. They're remarkably interchangeable.) The construction of the game dynamics are heavily tilted toward the destructive in nature (by the destructive people's own admission), who then claim they're risking something.

Tell you what...if you haven't built something, you're risking nothing. The only people taking risks in EVE are the ones who build. The ones who destroy (by their own admission) have already planned for that. They even have a cost/benefit ratio worked out which = risked nothing + lost nothing (even when losing "everything".)

This all appeals to a morbid fascination I have for perverse behavior. Naturally, the most perverse claim to be normal and above board in real life - accomplished people. Uh huh. I guess we're using the Goldman Sachs definition for that one.

Rave on, folks.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-03-09 10:41:57 UTC
game is called "TRUST"

We all lost. There is no such thing as TRUST in EVE.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#34 - 2012-03-09 11:53:58 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
game is called "TRUST"

We all lost. There is no such thing as TRUST in EVE.



i'm am real,, i am,,,,, and i am in EVE,, i swear.
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
#35 - 2012-03-09 12:24:03 UTC
IntegralHellsing wrote:
It's all Goonswarm's fault Lol



I assume you're being ironic here, but the reality is that a large part of the player base probably do think that, especially if they don't know who BoB is (Band of Brothers, wasn't it?).

I accept the current gameplay because without it it wouldn't be EVE at all...but CCP really need to instigate an effective police force. Police operations should be like incursions, but instead of going after Sansha's, they go into either low or null and hunt down pierats...but players can join the fleet and get something like a 5% bonus to their tank. That would get more players into low/null and provoke more combat; but I doubt that's what pierats want, because easy kills or ransoms is what they are after.

In addition, if a player suicide ganks another player in hi-sec, they should have all gates and stations closed to them (and self-destruct disabled), for a random amount of time giving players time and opportunity to scan them down and get some revenge.

Someone mentioned about living in the cracks between other stuff, and this is something that should be expanded upon with smuggling and /or bounty hunter skills - those type of skills would be ideal for someone who wants to play solo.

As an aside, to offer a perspective on group play against solo play - I logged onto TS last night, before logging on to the game, to be told that we were massively outnumbered by hostiles in our WH and not to bother logging on - so spent 3 hours on TS chilling with the guys from the alliance, having a laugh with people from the US, Holland, Sweden, Poland and the UK - not something that you are likely to do as a solo player, but for me that's what makes the whole EVE thing so great.

H
Emiko Luan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-03-09 13:44:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Emiko Luan
There is nothing one person can do that two can't do better.

That is a defining point of a sandbox. Immersion breaking artificial restraints are not a good thing.

My corp never forces anyone online, but we don't expect to be able to go toe to toe with the people that can dedicate.

+welcome to my world+ http://emikochan13.wordpress.com http://emikochan13.deviantart.com
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#37 - 2012-03-09 15:50:56 UTC
Zeet A'Dron wrote:
Words....


First reaction: EVE is a Space Combat Game.

Second Reaction: There are places who value building Empires over Combat, but they are few and far between. CVA for example has always first and foremost tried to build a null-sec Space Empire that only shoots you if you shoot us first.

Third Reaction: First reaction was right, maybe EVE just isn't for you. Perhaps a single-player game set in Space focussing on Colonization, given your preferences, lack of desire to be social or join a group, and your limited playtime/constant afk.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#38 - 2012-03-09 19:11:50 UTC
Like with most things in Eve, op, I think you really just need to find the right people to fly with. Not necessarily a big corp or alliance. There are lots of people who are laid back and won't mind your limited time constraints. Eve can be a lonely and boring place if you are solo, especially if you are carebearing it on your own.

No good deed goes unpunished
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-03-09 20:21:11 UTC
I believe one of the main reasons why life as a carebear is hard is the different concept of war that the typical highsecer has and that opposes the concept of the low/nullsecers.
If a highsec corp comits to war, they (mostly) want to achieve a well defined goal and use violence as a (last) measure to achieve this goal. Problem is, that at least many lowseccers do not have any goal besides getting lots of fights.
So what happens to the carebears that use force to purge some systems of enemy presence? They achieve the exact opposite of what they intended to do, the chance of getting fights and pvp action will draw even more enemies into the system instead of driving them out.
A strange game- the only winnning move is not to play....


just my 2 cents..

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Qen Tye
In Between
#40 - 2012-03-09 22:12:32 UTC
@ Zeet
I love the 'space' theme as well and have tried two where one of them are more scifi than space. Anyhow at the time there were only two other options

- Anarchy online
- Star Wars Galaxies

i tried both from 3 montsh and then I gave up and got EVE. Got hooked and the thing about EVE for me is that I love to hate the fact that you can in fact die (sure there is clones; but you can actually die and lose alot). It sucks to get ganked. But that is the mechanics of EVE - question is - can you accept this or not.

I am casual and carebear my self - at least for now and in a small corp that accepts this fact. I just wanna fly around and 'uhhh -- there's some site there in deep space- me go there'. Actually I wanna go to EVE gate cause I wanna see it. Unfortunately you cant.

For another space theme mmorpg is SW:tor - maybe give that a try ? From what I heard it is more carebear and casual friendly.

For what's it worth - I hope you find joy in playing again :)

Two possibilities exists: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.

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