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POS Resists

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Renice
Makers
#1 - 2012-03-09 02:17:51 UTC
So if I was just wardeccd and I onlined my hardeners to 57% to all but thermal and 62% to that... would that be considered pretty good? or should I look at more hardeners to have ready

this is a large dread
Masra lor
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-03-09 02:43:17 UTC
If they really want to take out your pos, there is almost nothing that you can do (short of taking down the tower) to stop them from killing it. That being said, the more hardners the more of a PITA it is to take out the tower. ESP it being a large, that's a LOT of shields for them to eat through. Throw some ewar on there, maybe a few medium autocannons and you might make it through.
Brock Nelson
#3 - 2012-03-09 02:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Brock Nelson
I wouldn't recomment autocannon given the short range

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2012-03-09 03:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Typical: 43% EM / 50% Therm / 43% Kin / 43% Exp (four hardeners: 2 / 0 / 1 / 1).

High: 58% EM / 63% Therm / 58% Kin / 58% Exp (nine hardeners: 3 / 1 / 2 / 3).

Very High: 68% EM / 63% Therm / 68% Kin / 68% Exp (twelve hardeners: 4 / 1 / 3 / 4).

Beyond that, more hardeners are only used when there are no defenses outside the force field (none anchored or all incapacitated and the tower is not reinforced), as it doesn't leave much CPU / grid for other defenses.

I have 17 hardeners anchored on my POS, but I never expect to use more than 9. I can online the most appropriate ones as needed if I'm around. I alone have 7 accounts and most trained as gunners.

I use a standard Caldari as a large dread is silly expensive amount of ISK to have floating in space. The opportunity cost is also huge. I had a large Domination tower and faction fit POS that I sold when I came to my senses. I spent the ISK I saved on more BPO.

Don't anchor what you can't afford to lose!
Masra lor
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-03-09 03:38:24 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
I wouldn't recomment autocannon given the short range


Appropriate ewar (sensor damp battaries) and they will have to come close. At which point autos with tear them apart. Small artillery works well in that situation also.
Renice
Makers
#6 - 2012-03-09 04:07:00 UTC
Id just tear it down but I dont have the standings to put em bakc up anymore as my corp has gotten bigger and such.... so gonna try to ride it out
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-03-09 09:03:41 UTC
Masra lor wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
I wouldn't recomment autocannon given the short range


Appropriate ewar (sensor damp battaries) and they will have to come close. At which point autos with tear them apart. Small artillery works well in that situation also.

I agree, i like to put a lot of ewar up, just make it as annoying as possible for them to kill it.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#8 - 2012-03-09 09:42:20 UTC
Unless you can get the entire corp to turn up with ECM boats and logistics, that tower will be gone within three days.

I'd try to take it down before the wardec goes live, and move the tower to a holding corp which does have the standings to put it back up at a later date.

If your corp is bigger than theirs, and they aren't bringing neutral reppers, you might be able to keep the tower alive.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#9 - 2012-03-09 16:35:56 UTC

Shed your wardec with dec shield mechanics....

I.E... Transfer your corp to the Dec Shield Alliance.... Then let them boot you from the alliance... If you do that, it will shed the wardec within 24hrs... and then they have to declare war on you again.... This, at the very least, gives you time to take down the tower... and if done right, makes your tower basically invulnerable...

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#10 - 2012-03-09 19:29:40 UTC
As already stated if they really want to take out your tower you can not stop them.

However being in high sec they will be using BS's, and BC's most likely with large laser turrets and maybe bombers. it will take a long time to take down your tower unless they have a very large fleet. Adding hardeners and ewar will make it take even longer. many high sec POS bashers use AFK battleships with lasers and just leave them shooting for hours. In thgis case you can hit the fleet while they are AFK and get some free kills. They usually do not use this method against active corps.

E-war will cause them to lose target lock, and hardeners will add EHP. This alone may be enough to discourage most high sec POS bashers as they will have to be actively playing to take out the tower.

Unless you have done something to really **** them off they will most likely not bother. If you have any high value modules anchored take them down as they may be the real target. Once the POS is gone any remaining modules can be scooped.

It is also possible that they have no intention of attacking the tower but want the moon. They may have war deced you in the hope that you would panic and take the tower down allowing them to steal the moon/spot.
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#11 - 2012-03-10 09:00:43 UTC
A High sec POS is actually invincible to destruction currently. Never fit external mods to a high sec pos they will just need repaired if they get incapped which can take ages, instead simply fit as many shield hardners as you can to make the attackers waste ammo and time. You can adjust your hardners deploying and offlining some during the attack to tweak your damage resits to what they are hitting you with. Simply cargo scan the attacking ships see what ammo they have from the edge of your shield.

Just before your pos goes into reinforced mode you can nullify there war using a dec shield. The war against you will be invalidated before your pos becomes destructiable.

I do not endorse this mechanic I'm just bringing it to the attention of the board, it really does need fixed ASAP.
Renice
Makers
#12 - 2012-03-11 02:07:40 UTC
I have a question on war mechanics as well.... if I use an alt corp and wardec my alliance and then mutual it would that increase prices for others wardeccing while allowing us to maintain a the wardec indefinitely without paying again?