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Why running complexes other than DED is useless
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JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-03-02 16:26:13 UTC
Brynhilda wrote:
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Confirming that sites other than DEDs are useless.


So you are using a loophole and you are proud of yourself ??
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#22 - 2012-03-02 18:34:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Juris Ethos wrote:
To be honest, I'm inclined to agree.

DED Rated complexes are nice little, self-enclosed sites that give faction spawns, an overseer, and a chance at deadspace loot. In my region, they're easy to run. No neuts, few webs, and not alot of scramming frigates.

Unrated sites like Fortresses, Bases, Staging Points, and Provincial HQ sites only sometimes escalate. While you may get faction rats, you have no hope of getting an overseer until the final escalation segment, and to be honest, its frustrating. An unrated site might send you into a logistical nightmare, only to drop junk with no escalation. Random is random, though. I've gotten unrated escalations that send me south of where I live, and I'll delete them without a second thought, as I know the risks.

In the end, as I am an explorer by profession, I prefer rated DED over unrated. Quick gratification at lower risk for shiny rewards.

Not saying unrated can't pay off, but it certainly hasn't in my experience.




Perfectly said.

I don't explore much any more, I mainly farm anomalies and only do a plex if it's an escalation (or if a buddy scans on down).

The ONE beef I have with the way of things is the fact that Named (Forlorn, Forsaken, hidden) Hubs escalate to that crappy Fleet Staging Point, which could take you all over hell and back. A-type loot is cool, but it's annoying. no other null-sec anomalies I know of escalates to a non-DED plex, and it seems fleet staging point was put in that slot because of no real 9/10s.

If a corp mate needs help with the last phase of one of those multi escaltion nightmares and it's close, sure, otherwise screw those things.
Fish Hunter
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-03-02 21:40:48 UTC
I agree escalations if you're not in the mood are bad. Lowsec escalations seem perfect with most being 5-8 jumps away from the last and travel is relatively easy even with people hunting you since there's stations and no bubbles. Null on the other hand throws curve balls, out of the last 3 I got 2 were fleet staging points 15 jumps away in a different region and 1 was 22 jumps which led across empire and back into null. I didn't try to travel for the first two, the third one I checked the area out but the gates were being camped. My beef is it takes a huge amount of time just to travel for these, they are not quick for the most part, and the busier nullsec gets the harder it becomes to even travel to the spot that these spawn.
Hemmo Paskiainen
#24 - 2012-03-04 00:21:51 UTC
Fish Hunter wrote:
I agree escalations if you're not in the mood are bad. Lowsec escalations seem perfect with most being 5-8 jumps away from the last and travel is relatively easy even with people hunting you since there's stations and no bubbles. Null on the other hand throws curve balls, out of the last 3 I got 2 were fleet staging points 15 jumps away in a different region and 1 was 22 jumps which led across empire and back into null. I didn't try to travel for the first two, the third one I checked the area out but the gates were being camped. My beef is it takes a huge amount of time just to travel for these, they are not quick for the most part, and the busier nullsec gets the harder it becomes to even travel to the spot that these spawn.


if you ran enough plexes i gues you luck is not random and it is possible to put percentages to plexes. the fleet stages escalates to same certain constalations and go in 90% of the time over 3 regions. you create it in region A that starts in B and end in region C. A ***** to run, usualy dont bother cause its too far trough 0.0

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Omron Farr
305th LOST TRIBE
#25 - 2012-03-04 00:41:22 UTC

It beats me how you find DED sites tbh.

I have all scanning skills to 5, have a helios with scanning rigs, sisters launchers and probes (DS probes to save time too) and after 2 weeks of searching caldari low sec have not found one DED site. This is getting depressing.

I know what signal strengths indicate the sites I'm looking for, have read thread after thread and yet can I find the suckers...not a one. I have no trouble scanning, I can probe down all the sigs easy enough, they are just never DED :(

Any tips to improve my sucess? I must have scanned 100+ sigs down now so surely there should be a hgher chance than this?
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#26 - 2012-03-04 18:00:03 UTC
Omron Farr wrote:


Any tips to improve my sucess? I must have scanned 100+ sigs down now so surely there should be a hgher chance than this?


Scan faster.
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-03-08 20:56:18 UTC
Omron Farr wrote:

It beats me how you find DED sites tbh.

I have all scanning skills to 5, have a helios with scanning rigs, sisters launchers and probes (DS probes to save time too) and after 2 weeks of searching caldari low sec have not found one DED site. This is getting depressing.

I know what signal strengths indicate the sites I'm looking for, have read thread after thread and yet can I find the suckers...not a one. I have no trouble scanning, I can probe down all the sigs easy enough, they are just never DED :(

Any tips to improve my sucess? I must have scanned 100+ sigs down now so surely there should be a hgher chance than this?


you and how many others are scanning caldari lowsec? try another region/rat faction to scan for, many of the other lowsecs are much emptier then caldari,

of course, their loot isnt worth neary as much as guristas stuff. chalk that up to tengu/golem spam.

try scanning gallente lowsec, even .5's and you will find a ded fairly quickly. figure a loot drop of 20-150 mil isk, (.5 has energized c-types)

or go to amarr lowsec, sanshas/blood raiders are a bit more challenging in some ways but their loot is also fairly worthwhile.

Your biggest problem is over saturation of scanners in your area, scan earlier, and faster, also keep an eye on taht d-scan for other peoples probes. try scanning at different times then you normaly do, and you should see quite a few others come through.

oh and more to the point, you know all the ded site names?

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
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