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Placing a personal POS

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Enatqeuk
the forgotten core
#1 - 2012-03-04 06:29:37 UTC
Is there any real way to put down a POS more as your own thing than as a corporation? In other words, say I'm in a corp that doesn't want to give me a bunch of trust but would be willing to let me put down a POS if I'm paying for it on my own. Is there any way for them to do so?
Elizara Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-03-04 06:35:34 UTC
First you have to have the "Config Starbase Equipment" Role in the Corporation to anchor, online and setup the POS. Once the POS is online you can set a password on the POS that only you know and make sure to uncheck the "Allow Corp Members" and "Allow Alliance Members". Even than I think the CEO can still enter without the password, though don't quote me on that.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#3 - 2012-03-04 07:01:06 UTC
Enatqeuk wrote:
Is there any real way to put down a POS more as your own thing than as a corporation? In other words, say I'm in a corp that doesn't want to give me a bunch of trust but would be willing to let me put down a POS if I'm paying for it on my own. Is there any way for them to do so?


Not without handing you the keys to the rest of the towers. Nobody (smart) hands out Starbase Config.

Form a personal player corp, anchor tower. Possibly joining the other corp in an alliance arrangement.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-03-04 07:04:56 UTC
quick answer is no. The corp has to give you all sorts of permissions to place a POS which would also give you control over all their pos's (among other things).

The best other solution for you would be to start a 2nd corp using an alt (character or account), buying a pre-made corp with high enough standings to place in high sec and setup your POS there.

You're not going to be able to place the POS under a 2nd account in nullsec most likely because the alliance/corp will most likely not allow it. They may be willing to if your generic fake corp is willing to join their alliance which would just add another 200m a month you would need to spend for the POS.
Enatqeuk
the forgotten core
#5 - 2012-03-04 19:07:32 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Enatqeuk wrote:
Is there any real way to put down a POS more as your own thing than as a corporation? In other words, say I'm in a corp that doesn't want to give me a bunch of trust but would be willing to let me put down a POS if I'm paying for it on my own. Is there any way for them to do so?


Not without handing you the keys to the rest of the towers. Nobody (smart) hands out Starbase Config.

Form a personal player corp, anchor tower. Possibly joining the other corp in an alliance arrangement.


What if they put it down for me? Would I be able to work with the modules, grab the goo, etc... without them having to give me the same rights on all POS's?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#6 - 2012-03-04 19:12:55 UTC
Enatqeuk wrote:
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Enatqeuk wrote:
Is there any real way to put down a POS more as your own thing than as a corporation? In other words, say I'm in a corp that doesn't want to give me a bunch of trust but would be willing to let me put down a POS if I'm paying for it on my own. Is there any way for them to do so?


Not without handing you the keys to the rest of the towers. Nobody (smart) hands out Starbase Config.

Form a personal player corp, anchor tower. Possibly joining the other corp in an alliance arrangement.


What if they put it down for me? Would I be able to work with the modules, grab the goo, etc... without them having to give me the same rights on all POS's?


they could set all kinds of things to "corporation" ... so ... maybe ... but then it's wide open to everyone in your corp.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-03-05 05:44:16 UTC
It just isn't practical. Only way to have "personal" POS is to have a personal corporation - all members of the corp are owned and controlled by you yourself.

That corporation can then set your main corporation +10 and a main can assist in a lot of stuff, but the actual POS role needing bits have to be done by your alt in a personal corp;

- Anchoring/unanchoring and onlining/offlining modules
- Taking stuff out of POS silos, putting stuff into POS silos
- Fueling the tower
- Doing research and manufacturing jobs at the tower

This is one of the biggest itches with POSes and one of the main reasons why people need multiple characters and (often) multiple accounts...

Avasa Siuu
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-03-06 14:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Avasa Siuu
Out of personal experience:

I personally set up two POSs of my own on moons in null sec to purely act as a profit to my self and to do that you must:

Be granted starbase manager from your corporation and you yourself must trust your corporation that they will not do anything to essentially.... sabottage your POS from under you feet.

After you get granted starbase manager you essentially have to work out an agreement with your corp saying you will buy your own modules and supply your own fuel and also manage your reactions yourself and refuel and manage the moon goo (if your moon mining for personal gains)

In my case i got permission from my corp then permission to drop a tower on top of a Silicates/Evaporates moon and a Titanium moon. I supplied the Chromium and the other reaction i forgot needed to make Titanium Chromide.

The corporation understood i was managing that POS myself and paying out of my own pocket for the fuel (ghastly btw) and also set up other modules like a lab to research my own BPOs.

Moral of the story:

Can you trust the leadership in your corporation to not mess with your stuff.

Can you get the permissions to set up your own POS.

Are you financially stable to keep the POS fueled and running.

Can you run your own logistics to keep your POS fueled if located in low-sec or worse.... Null (what a bloody nightmare that was, and and dont even DARE say WH space....)

Now you could do the whole have your OWN corporation or have an alt create a corporation and work it that way, but if your in null sec that means you have to get approval from your alliance to have that corp in it. If your in low sec, god speed and ill be hunting for that POS.

Tip: Don't bother with putting down your own POS unless it will prove to make you isk, it is a blackhole that will suck all your isk if you do. (if you owned, fueled, operated, and ran two large towers anyway.)

Oh and to the comment of needing alts or multiple characters to run a POS tower is partly true...

Yes depending on your location you will need an alt to cyno in your ships and high sec alts to get the best prices of fuel possible. You will also need a hauler alt or two(again location dependent) to haul your fuel/moon goo for you. Which is also a reason why having a corp you can trust comes to play. If the corp is doing logistics and you dont happen to have any logistic capabilities yourself you could ask your logistics pilots in your corp to help haul your precious goods with corporation goods to your POS location. Or if your in a null sec alliance use the services provided by the alliance, which all good alliances will have a logistics service in place.

Or if your a high sec pubbie then you dont need to worry about having multiple alts too much and could have your main haul, fuel, manage the POS that way but...... Thats just an isk sink and any profit coming out of it is non existent in my eyes. More like you will need to do incursions or rat like hell in order to fuel your self needs of "wanting a POS" That is not making your isk work for you. The purpose of a POS is to be an asset multiplier, and if it ain't doin that, it ain't workin. POSs like many things in eve are investments, This investment can be VERY costly, or it can be VERY profitable depending on how you work it.
Death Killer21
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#9 - 2012-03-08 08:07:02 UTC
I think wht CCP need to do is make it possible for individual players to place a POS instead of having to join another corp, like with anchoring cans ther shud be an option launch for self when launching a pos and pos mods. Its stupid that you need to be in a corp and have all sorts of rights to anchor a pos. if they do allow u to anchor ure own pos's them pos's shud go of URE standings.

Doing this wud make everything so much easyer.

Death killer21

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