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For once, it's not just CCP that are to blame but the players that act like assholes

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-03-07 22:27:59 UTC
What the hell do you expect. This game should really be called "Aspie Online"

if you want to meet the real people with jobs and families they are normally in highsec during the week and in lowsec at the weekends


Non Aspie Wormholes only work when you have a lot of friends or people with a lot of spare time on there hands.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#22 - 2012-03-07 22:39:44 UTC
While I agree with you Valei, if someone is taking a dump on my lawn day in and day out and I don't have sense enough to put the run to them, that makes me a bit of a tool. Griefers do alot of damage to this game and CCP look the other way all in the name of 'Sandbox'. This is thier game, not mine and if they want to let griefers wreck it, why the hell should I try and stop them using broken and inadequate mechanics?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-03-07 23:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
nevermind.

too tired.
Ai Shun
#24 - 2012-03-07 23:32:14 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Okay, so we get this pathetic excuse so many times now "EVE is a cold harsh universe" to cover for how pointlessly unfair and mean some people are in this game but this kind of hit me recently, I was doing recruitment and this guy came saying he was from a 0.0 alliance and wanted to hook up with me. Everything was going find and then I said just to be safe I wanted him to move his stuff to a high sec station first before i give him the location of my corps wormhole entrance.

Now I didn't think this was too bad considering the amount of crap other corporations put people through before they'll even let them join nevermind get near their base, I just wanted to be on the safe side since EVE is a 'cold harsh universe' but really? He ended up not staying because he couldn't understand that if I just gave him the entrance to the wormhole we've got set up in for all I know he's a spy ready to spam it around to anyone that wants to come and gank the small defenseless corp looking to get themselves set up.

The EVE Playerbase should really be ******* ashamed of themselves, I know perfectly nice people in game but the facts are a lot of you act like a bunch of pricks, there's being a pirate, there's ganking people and then there's turning it personal by giving them **** just for joining your corporation. This is about as casual as I think I can make it for players without putting the corporation at risk and I'M getting **** for trying to keep people safe because you assholes take things too far by running around demanding peoples real life information and screenshots of their accounts and people are just losing patience.

Honestly, can we just have on thread where we agree that some things are taken too ******* far and it's just a game? Stop acting like pricks! You'd almost think that the 0.0 alliances were involved with real money in this game with how seriously they take it!


So let me condense this. Somebody did not want to jump through the hoops you requested, and this means that

(a) some things are taken too seriously in-game
(b) EVE players are acting like pricks
(c) The 0.0 alliances are involved in RMT because of this
(d) We all have to be ashamed of themselves

I think you need a big dose of HTFU and perhaps medication to help you calm down.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#25 - 2012-03-07 23:38:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Gustav
Ai Shun wrote:
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Okay, so we get this pathetic excuse so many times now "EVE is a cold harsh universe" to cover for how pointlessly unfair and mean some people are in this game but this kind of hit me recently, I was doing recruitment and this guy came saying he was from a 0.0 alliance and wanted to hook up with me. Everything was going find and then I said just to be safe I wanted him to move his stuff to a high sec station first before i give him the location of my corps wormhole entrance.

Now I didn't think this was too bad considering the amount of crap other corporations put people through before they'll even let them join nevermind get near their base, I just wanted to be on the safe side since EVE is a 'cold harsh universe' but really? He ended up not staying because he couldn't understand that if I just gave him the entrance to the wormhole we've got set up in for all I know he's a spy ready to spam it around to anyone that wants to come and gank the small defenseless corp looking to get themselves set up.

The EVE Playerbase should really be ******* ashamed of themselves, I know perfectly nice people in game but the facts are a lot of you act like a bunch of pricks, there's being a pirate, there's ganking people and then there's turning it personal by giving them **** just for joining your corporation. This is about as casual as I think I can make it for players without putting the corporation at risk and I'M getting **** for trying to keep people safe because you assholes take things too far by running around demanding peoples real life information and screenshots of their accounts and people are just losing patience.

Honestly, can we just have on thread where we agree that some things are taken too ******* far and it's just a game? Stop acting like pricks! You'd almost think that the 0.0 alliances were involved with real money in this game with how seriously they take it!


So let me condense this. Somebody did not want to jump through the hoops you requested, and this means that

(a) some things are taken too seriously in-game
(b) EVE players are acting like pricks
(c) The 0.0 alliances are involved in RMT because of this
(d) We all have to be ashamed of themselves

I think you need a big dose of HTFU and perhaps medication to help you calm down.


Don't forget that it's all of our faults that other people are db's in Eve, but this guy is guilt-free, apparently because he lives in a secret wormhole and is morally irreprehensible (within the context of a game).

I think this about covers it: This is the same guy who cries when he brings a friend to your house for a game of Monopoly and you put his friend out of the game with your developments on Boardwalk.

What, is he six? This game may not be age-appropriate for him then; it's rated "T" for "Teen" but they cannot monitor the user-content of an online game, so certain content may be age-inappropriate, such as this case and the OP.

I suggest Candyland or Sorry! Nah wat, in sorry you have to act like a DB sometimes, when you play these games.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-03-08 05:41:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
Two things I've learned in life. 1.) Don't expect a crazy person to make sense. 2.) Don't argue with a fool. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

There's no way the player population of this game, the real world army of your choice, a governmental body (pick a country), or any gathering of the present occupants of earth can be above their established mental state...or balance...imbalance? The truth is, the frontal lobe activity of the present day earthling is negligible. That's where the consequence of action, or moral consequence of action is mediated. There's a new term for it now...since sociopathic psychiatrists are counted in this mix...but the old term is "sociopath."

We often mistake sociopathy as isolated to serial killers (an estimated 65 of these running around the U.S. at any given moment.) But, the truth is, there's two kinds of sociopaths. The bold ones are the serial killers. The chicken ones are too afraid of real world consequences (read: electric chair, hanging, lethal injection) to actually act out their disorder. So, you will find, in the safety of an environment like this, they feel free to express what they are naturally.

A feature of sociopaths is claiming "everybody else does it, so why not me?" You've seen that in one form or another in the responses to your post. What's unique about EVE interactively speaking is, the management actually approves of, supports and themselves participate in this behavior, naturally seeing nothing in the world wrong with it. In fact, the vast majority of EVE players use it as a means to release their sociopathy, and so will tell you it's "what the sandbox is all about," and "you have a problem if you can't deal with that, boo hoo you."

Naturally, it's lost on them the other potentials and options that unafflicted people would see as a matter of course, and would also attempt keeping in line with the nature of unsullied human intelligence. They see this sort of enterprise and activity as merely a victim setting him or herself up to be -ized by them, gleefullly.

In a very real sense, therefore, in EVE you are actually in a culture of sociopaths. In a very real sense in the real world you are also in a culture of sociopaths. So, if you see sociopathic behavior and don't recognize it as such, that's very likely a sign you are so afflicted, too. If you DO see such behavior and react as though this person should change for the sake of common sense, I refer you to "what I learned in life 1."

Have a nice day. Blink

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-03-08 07:10:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Mai Khumm wrote:
0.0 alliances are involved with real money in this game. It's called RMT, and every null alliance does it...


or NONE, take your pick..


Anyway if your expectation of what you can do in EVE is "real" enough you can easily do whatever you chose. If it is too small you end up in high sec farming lvl IV missions without any purpose...

If it is high enough you end up in null sec crying that you cant compete with power-blocks.

edit. People really should treat this "game" as an form of entertainment, not as an form of proving their worth.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#28 - 2012-03-08 07:16:25 UTC
My god dude. Why are you still here if it's so bad?

EVE clearly isn't for you. Go have fun in another game.
And please stop crying! Ugh
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#29 - 2012-03-08 07:16:55 UTC
Ann133566 wrote:
don't join a corp you won't screw over.

We're all SPAIs here. Nothing to see.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#30 - 2012-03-08 07:55:14 UTC
We are bad people and should be a shame of ourselfs Sad

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2012-03-08 08:09:25 UTC
Damn you are one negative person Sad cheer up, bud!

I meet super cool people all the time in space, and really love it.

Cheers to that ex-RvBer I frig duelled two nights ago, to the vet explorer who convoed me in a 6/10 yesterday, and to that small pack who tried to gank me in that same plex - good times, good times Cool



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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2012-03-08 10:12:02 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
1/10




That's exactly what I'm talking about, **** you.



2/10, your improving but not doing it right (yet)

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#33 - 2012-03-08 10:19:37 UTC
Good god Valei, is there a single thing you are not walloftext upset about?

I think it's time you considered your health and tried a different game.

If you want ships in space designed for carebears try STO

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Valei Khurelem
#34 - 2012-03-08 10:28:51 UTC

Quote:
If you want ships in space designed for carebears try STO


You talk like this isn't a carebear game when in fact it's the most carebared up MMORPG in existence, the only difference is that it caters to gankers.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-03-08 10:37:40 UTC
Skydell wrote:
While I agree with you Valei, if someone is taking a dump on my lawn day in and day out and I don't have sense enough to put the run to them, that makes me a bit of a tool. Griefers do alot of damage to this game and CCP look the other way all in the name of 'Sandbox'. This is thier game, not mine and if they want to let griefers wreck it, why the hell should I try and stop them using broken and inadequate mechanics?




If griefers don't make it personal, they're not really griefing, you're playing within a PvP sandbox.

If EVE became all warm and cosy, it would no longer be EVE except in name.
Valei Khurelem
#36 - 2012-03-08 10:39:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
Like I said, I have no problem when it comes to spies and stuff, because that's what make this game exciting, but when you take it too far and start harassing noobs going "YOU SPY! ZOMG ALT. IT'S A SCAMMER" like a bunch of morons then it stops being a game and you're just taking it way too far.


Quote:
I can't believe you just used the **** word.


I've repeatedly pointed out blatant errors in their swear filter and they haven't fixed it :p not my fault they can't be bothered.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#37 - 2012-03-08 10:51:07 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
If griefers don't make it personal, they're not really griefing, you're playing within a PvP sandbox.



That makes no sense at all. If I was playing an FPS and ran around on a friendly fire map shooting my teammates, I'm greifing. I'm not singling out anyone and probably will never see any of them again but it doesn't change what I'm doing.

It's no different than a guy sitting outside a newbie station in a Thrasher with a yellow can labeled "Free stuff for new players". They aren't doing it for any reason other than the "lulz".

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg

Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-03-08 11:03:17 UTC
Valentyn3 wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
If griefers don't make it personal, they're not really griefing, you're playing within a PvP sandbox.



That makes no sense at all. If I was playing an FPS and ran around on a friendly fire map shooting my teammates, I'm greifing. I'm not singling out anyone and probably will never see any of them again but it doesn't change what I'm doing.

It's no different than a guy sitting outside a newbie station in a Thrasher with a yellow can labeled "Free stuff for new players". They aren't doing it for any reason other than the "lulz".




If they're playing within the rules and not making it personal, then they're not griefing. Your example with the friendly fire map does not make them griefers necessarily, if the game is made with constant combat in mind.
Keno Skir
#39 - 2012-03-08 11:24:55 UTC
This guy sounds a bit like that other guy i can't remember.. the one who made all those youtube videos and podcasts to illustrate how much he "didn't" care what we all thought of him.

You clearly acted to that newb like you are acting on the forums, and he decided you weren't worth the effort. It is likely he believed you and your wormhole to be some sort of "old lady alone in the house trying to entice the paperboy in to rub her corns" sort of scenario and moved on with his career in the opposite direction.

And rightly so.

fly safe o/
kopacz swiata
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2012-03-08 11:30:22 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Okay, so we get this pathetic excuse so many times now "EVE is a cold harsh universe" to cover for how pointlessly unfair and mean some people are in this game but this kind of hit me recently, I was doing recruitment and this guy came saying he was from a 0.0 alliance and wanted to hook up with me. Everything was going find and then I said just to be safe I wanted him to move his stuff to a high sec station first before i give him the location of my corps wormhole entrance.

Now I didn't think this was too bad considering the amount of crap other corporations put people through before they'll even let them join nevermind get near their base, I just wanted to be on the safe side since EVE is a 'cold harsh universe' but really? He ended up not staying because he couldn't understand that if I just gave him the entrance to the wormhole we've got set up in for all I know he's a spy ready to spam it around to anyone that wants to come and gank the small defenseless corp looking to get themselves set up.

The EVE Playerbase should really be ******* ashamed of themselves, I know perfectly nice people in game but the facts are a lot of you act like a bunch of pricks, there's being a pirate, there's ganking people and then there's turning it personal by giving them **** just for joining your corporation. This is about as casual as I think I can make it for players without putting the corporation at risk and I'M getting **** for trying to keep people safe because you assholes take things too far by running around demanding peoples real life information and screenshots of their accounts and people are just losing patience.

Honestly, can we just have on thread where we agree that some things are taken too ******* far and it's just a game? Stop acting like pricks! You'd almost think that the 0.0 alliances were involved with real money in this game with how seriously they take it!



I dont know why, perhaps lack of sleep, but all i could think of was "Its a cold, harsh universe"...yes until you pee in your wetsuit (read spacesuit) to warm yourself up when your SCUBA (spacewalking) diving....Shocked