EVE General Discussion

I fly from belt to belt to belt looking for Shadow Serpentis to kill. Use the time spent flying from belt to belt to belt as the ratio I spend killing Shadow Serpentis? 2%

I scan down wormholes and jump through to scan down other wormholes. I call it pigtailing. Looking for High Sec inside a WH and seeing where I come out. I used to be able to do this in an hr and a half or so and it was a sure thing. Since they decided to change out default Class one to High sec I have yet to pigtail out. I end up in a 2 that leads to 4's that lead to null. So I end up back pathing, docking up and logging out.

Can we talk ? to quote Joan Rivers. I'm not sure how much fun i ever had in Eve, i had a sense of accomplishment building a

one man pos in a wormhole, then a highsec research pos, then a T3 ship. I guess the fun was a byproduct of accomplishing

goals that offered a challenge - something other online games have long ago left in the dust.

In the new age of instant gratification where mmo's make everything so easy Eve is about the last refuge for players who want a challenge.

So is Eve fun ? IDK ..but i spent alot of time here.

EVE is more than a game, it is a multicultural social networking and learning platform, an economic simulator and last but not least can be a great hobby.

However, I feel there is a lot of fun game play missing.

It most certainly has the potential.

As an example, when I go snowboarding for a week, a good 30% of those 7 days I am going to spend riding that mountain having fun. Proper proportions.

PVP either solo or small gang for me has been the most fun I have been able to have in EVE. That is just simply the game within the game I enjoy.

From a new player's perspective, if you think about how long the bus ride (skill q) is, and the time you need to go out roaming looking for that (good) fight that is enjoyable, the proportions seem to be not worth it.

Perhaps this game is indeed not for me but I damn straight know it has the potential to be.

When did I ever have FUN in a MMORPG I wonder, very very rarely maybe the initial exploring and finding new stuff out and such but in general I believe its more a feeling of working towards a goal and feeling that you achieve something (even if you dont. lol).

For me it's the vast world they have created along with the buttloads of fiction in it. Depth is pretty high on what I look for in an RPG.

Grinding can be stale but I find the randomness of scanning can keep it pretty fresh.

I guess, you're not having fun. If you were having fun you wouldn't be worrying about how much time and energy you were investing in it.

Huge part of finding the perfect ratio of buildup/fun is finding out what you enjoy most, and working out a position to enjoy it. In a complex sandbox like this, you are the only person who can do it.

For me, the optimal solution has turned out to be based in a wh with lowsec static. Conquering the wormhole itself was a fantastic project, culminating in watching the POS shield bubble go up. It's our system and we pillage and harvest it as we please :) Lowsec static gives us immediate access to exploration and roaming, and if we get no luck in the sites or get ourselves blown up, we have a steady source of income from home anomalies and resources.

Obviously there is some amount or "stuff that needs to be done" in order to prosper in whs, but being under constant exposure to pvp makes even logistics interesting. Traveling, like everything else in hisec is terribly boring, but running blockades thru camps and scouting for corpies is actually fun.

So yeah, I'm doing exactly what I want in EVE now on my own terms, and I'm very lucky to share it with a tight group of great pilots who feel the same. There were moments when I needed to step up and take the initiative to be here now, but hey, carpe diem is not bullshit

I'm not aware of any other virtual environment that offers this level of being there, sense of achievement and rewards initiative while having cheap fun - thanks CCP <3

omg, after reading this I realize just how hooked I am well, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

P.S. For reasons mentioned above, I voted Seleene for CSM7.

I'm not really sure whether the investment has paid off for me yet. I bought three months, but pretty much all the vets I've met tell me that since big isn't better in EvE and sometimes it's even suicide (especially since I have low skills atm.) I don't feel like I've progressed very far in the first month. But then they also say, don't leave the thing on for six months and then come back, you'll have no experience! I guess I can see the logic in that, and yes losing ships is an educational experience, but only to a certain extent. Joining RvB has also helped alot, but then again, most of the fights there are blob fights, which satisfies my need for virtual killmail whoring and pew pews, but doesn't necessarily advance me towards a concrete objective, which Vaerah talked about in her post.

For me, the objective would be to advance my combat capabilities particularly in player vs player ship combat and be able to fly in larger ships and duke it out with other larger ships.
Months of waiting and isk grinding to consistently fly the ships that to me (personally) seems interesting or fun to fly is quite an uncertain investment. I guess vets will now reassure me that EvE "picks up after the first month"; I sincerely hope that this is the case, because this seems to me to be the only good Sci-Fi mmo out on the market right now and one that appeals to my love of ship to ship combat.

I would very much like to thank everyone replying in this thread for it shows a like minded set of intellectual individuals with a constructive mindset that indeed give me a fresh breath of insight.

That humbles me for the very reason it is something that should stand central in perhaps not only EVE but life itself.

It is important to have goals, but they are not the source of being happy. It is in fact here and now and the road you walk alone or together that makes for the enjoyable experience.

At the moment... 3/10, but thats because I'm isk farming and setting up a supply chain to fund my fun.

When out pew pewing, it's a 6-7/10 most of the time, with it very rarely reaching 9/10 if I by some act of God I run into someone not in a 20+ man gang/blob to shoot at.