Jita Park Speakers Corner

Well we have another year of shenanigans, ego and misinformation - otherwise known as CSM elections.

Many people obviously don't vote.. A large percentage of those are empire dwellers, many industrialists. Over the past few weeks having spoken to people and one only has to read the forums, you can conclude most indy players who aren't voting do that because they figure it won't matter anyhow.

This year should be different for industrialists. Many of the 0.0 candidates are block candidiates, but not so for people speaking up for industry.

If you're finding it difficult to select a candidate for industry concerns -

1. Seleene is probably a forerunner for industrial concerns currently - he has on many occasions professed a view that industry requires an expansion now. It has been promised by CCP for a long time and now is the time for it. He has led PVP alliances and understands the relationship between industry and 0.0 PVP well.

2. Hans Jagerblitzen is also a good indy protagonist.

3. Two Step for wormholes - this guy has a good understanding of wormholes, wormhole industry and PVP both.

4. Trebor Daehdoow to a slightly lesser degree for 0.0 industry AND wormholes, but more for empire industrial concerns - as a past CSM chair has a GREAT understanding of CCP and the place and role CSM plays.

While there are many other worthy candidates running, selecting these 4 people will ensure a strong industry CSM with experience and motivation.

Development of industry means development of PVP. If you change industry, you change the market, if market changes, pvp changes. Getting these industrial issues fixed finally will help streamline the systems behind peoples' ships being created - thereby making them cheaper by defacto.

More industrialists would join the market creating more diversity of markets and competition.

All of this drives prices down.

Removal of botters would create a void to allow more industrial people into the market. This will create more competition and allow those people to earn decent isk in the game at the same time.

None of this can be bad for PVPers in general.

Make sure you vote, and vote for a candidate that isn't selling you a lemon.

Edit: Just to clarify for people who do read this. I have no dog in this race. I am not affiliated with nor partnered up with anyone in this list.
I don't get isk, I don't get any reimbursement in any form from any of these people.
My only concern is the forward movement of industrial change in EVE Online.

If you search Seleene's or Trebor's own threads you will find me being pretty impartial in some instances even calling them out on some things specifically.

However, I do still see these 4 candidates as the people most capable of providing change and not standing on vague platforms like "I'm for miners".

Please, give a bump so more ppl can read and vote.

Edit: I've added links to the candidates where they speak on their main campain platforms or their wiki's. Happy to change the links on their requests.

Which is it? I'm an Alt or in someone's pocket?

I've been following the CSM elections quite closely this year and found many capable candidates.

To be honest the tone of your post is just one facet of why I wouldn't put you forward as a candidate that people could rely upon.

Perhaps if you took more time to engender yourself with your remarks and tackle real issues with real solutions that might change.

Take the time to re-read your remak above objectively. It sounds like some teenage guy about to have a forum-tantrum.

Not the CSM candidate I am after - Not to argue of course!

Read this analysis which shows that Psychobitch is a fringe candidate
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78067

Better to pick someone closer to the mainstream, someone that perhaps has discussed the economic knock on effects of many suggested changes, because for industrialists, the economy is everything, and the economy is broken in many ways.

Well, while mittani has done a good job getting CCP's attention this CSM it is a little difficult to see a further role for him without getting in the way.

It is great when a group of people aren't all on the same page and there's chaos everywhere to have someone jump in, grab everyone and steer them in a direction.

However, once a direction is taken and everyone IS on the same page. That same person detracts from the fact that everyone has to have a say. All delegates in CSM7 while having CCP's ear need to be able to formulate a direction that's in everyone's best interests.

Mittani just isn't that guy.

If you want someone who represents the industrial side of eve, vote for Psychobitch. Veteran from the EvE Beta phase, and I do not think there is anyone else in EvE who has as much experience with the industry side as PsychoBitch.

The Mittani is the logical choice for industrialists.

1. Conflict creates the demand for what industrialists produce.
2. The ice interdiction did more to counter botting than anything CCP did between Incarna and Crucible.
3. Even ganking in empire increases the demand for ships and modules.

Make your vote count. Vote Mittani

Definitely not empty quoting. Even Mittens doesn't come across so self-righteously.

I'm entitled to be self-righteous when someone comes into my thread to whine about not being included, accuse me of being in someone's pocket, or an alt and then displays all the same qualities she was originally left out of the post because of.

So I guess I'm either not worth listening to - in which case, why come in on the thread at all - or she's afraid of the reasoning?

Take your pick, either way you come off looking stupid/disgruntled/scared.

million miner march lawl

lol, should have included more quote, I was talking about Issler. Forum fail.