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New dev blog: U and I - Our Little Improvements Together

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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#121 - 2012-03-07 21:21:48 UTC
CCP RedDawn wrote:
This proves that good things can come in small packages.

I feel I was tricked into liking this P

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
TheLostPenguin
Surreal Departure
#122 - 2012-03-07 21:27:35 UTC  |  Edited by: TheLostPenguin
Hooray a devblog that doesn't cause repeated rage during reading, and even better actually has some nice changes in there too!

The only thing I'm not so keen on personally is changing the sort order of the assets screen, however I totally see why this is super great for many people, so why not change how the info is listed there? At present the System-(Moon)-Station-# Items-#jumps to location is one big long string pretty much as I just typed it, why not put these diferent bits of data into their own columns (like how most of the rest of the ui tends to be arranged when faced with diferent data like this), then we can sort by whichever set we like, to either find our largest piles of worthless junk/nearest anything/specific station because you know pretty much where it appears on the list alreadyBig smile
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#123 - 2012-03-07 21:30:02 UTC
TheLostPenguin wrote:
Hooray a devblog that doesn't cause repeated rage during reading, and even better actually has some nice changes in there too!

The only thing I'm not so keen on personally is changing the sort order of the assets screen, however I totally see why this is super great for many people, so why not change how the info is listed there? At present the System-(Moon)-Station-# Items-#jumps to location is one big long string pretty much as I just typed it, why not put these diferent bits of data into their own columns (like how most of the rest of the ui tends to be arranged when faced with diferent data like this), then we can sort by whichever set we like, to either find our largest piles of worthless junk/nearest anything/specific station because you know pretty much where it appears on the list alreadyBig smile


Your face,

Its a masterpeice.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Tenebrae Syrennis
Abattoir Research and Development
#124 - 2012-03-07 21:38:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenebrae Syrennis
Will it be possible to add in future a "Market History" graph for items on contracts--IE, "View Market History" for things like, say....CalNavy Invuln Fields--as well as the standard market?

That would be very cool and useful.

I have come to eat all your brains.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2012-03-07 21:48:47 UTC
Good job Karkur! You deserver a raise!

Since that almost never happens anymore I think we should all pressure Guard into buying you a cookie.

A BIG cookie!

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Anja Talis
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal
#126 - 2012-03-07 21:51:46 UTC
Hannott Thanos wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:

yeah, we have also been thinking about this... there are some hidden "features" in EVE (like holding down SHIFT to split stack, and while opening "show info" window to get a new one), and we probably don't communicate them well enough.
We are planning on adding something in the Evelopedia, and also hoping you guys spread the word P

WHAT! Why have I not known this before : (((
From now on I will shift click ALL THE THINGS!



OMG.

I've been playing this since 2007 and having to deal with one window at a time......

Oops
Vanessa Vansen
Vandeo
#127 - 2012-03-07 21:55:15 UTC
Did you get forced to write this dev blog to get some people away from Rebalancing EVE, one shitp at a time ? Lol

Seriously: Good job!
And take it as a compliment that you don't have as many pages as the devblog mentioned above.

(No offense to CCP Ytterbium as mentioned a few times there)
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#128 - 2012-03-07 21:57:32 UTC
Anja Talis wrote:
Hannott Thanos wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
yeah, we have also been thinking about this... there are some hidden "features" in EVE (like holding down SHIFT to split stack, and while opening "show info" window to get a new one), and we probably don't communicate them well enough.

We are planning on adding something in the Evelopedia, and also hoping you guys spread the word P
WHAT! Why have I not known this before : (((
From now on I will shift click ALL THE THINGS!
OMG.

I've been playing this since 2007 and having to deal with one window at a time......

Oops
This is even one of the more "obvious" ones since if you press ESC and click General Settings then there is a setting there called "Try to Use Existing Info Windows if Any (Except if Shift is Pressed)"...

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
AnzacPaul
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#129 - 2012-03-07 21:58:50 UTC
@CCP Karkur is there a chance we can get the market to open the default sub category for an item when viewing market details for it?

For example right clicking "view market details" on a warp disruptor II should navigate you to the "warp jammers" sub column when opening the market.
Granix Uvelian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#130 - 2012-03-07 22:00:44 UTC
Thanks! I'm looking forward to these changes. Also would like to echo the market order suggestion by Liang. Thanks for looking into that.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2012-03-07 22:03:38 UTC
AnzacPaul wrote:
@CCP Karkur is there a chance we can get the market to open the default sub category for an item when viewing market details for it?

For example right clicking "view market details" on a warp disruptor II should navigate you to the "warp jammers" sub column when opening the market.


oh how awesome that would be
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#132 - 2012-03-07 22:06:57 UTC
AnzacPaul wrote:
@CCP Karkur is there a chance we can get the market to open the default sub category for an item when viewing market details for it?

For example right clicking "view market details" on a warp disruptor II should navigate you to the "warp jammers" sub column when opening the market.

Well, I was looking into something like that today, but then the dev blog came out so I stopped... it's on my wishlistSmile

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
ORCACommander
Obsidian Firelance Technologies
#133 - 2012-03-07 22:08:21 UTC  |  Edited by: ORCACommander
nice work.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66839&find=unread

now for shameless self promotion of a feature request

ninja edit: can we get multiple calculators again?
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#134 - 2012-03-07 22:11:48 UTC
Anja Talis wrote:

OMG.

I've been playing this since 2007 and having to deal with one window at a time......

Oops


here are a few more tips P

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Syri Taneka
NOVA-CAINE
#135 - 2012-03-07 22:14:04 UTC
The three things about the UI that are bothering me most right now are:

1) Window position/size memory. Most notably, the Trade window. The way I lay out my hangar and cargo windows masks large portions of the trade window, so I tend to move it up when I'm trading between my characters, which I do a lot of. But then, the next time I trade, it starts out right in the center of the screen again, which is a pain in the ass. Also notable with the item info window, which I regularly resize to view more of, only to have it show up again later in the same annoyingly tiny rectangle in the top left of the screen.

2) Window re-usage. Chaining from number 1: I put my market window somewhere, set the window size and the dimensions of the frames within it how I like it. Later, I open the market with an info window already open in the top left corner and the market window opens in the same space, ruining all my resizing efforts because it's no longer in the middle of the screen and stretched wide the way I like it. This happens with pretty much every useful window in the game. (Note: I do not have "use existing window unless shift is pressed" on. The windows stack, like tabs in modern browsers, not replace each other.)

3) Focus stealing. If I'm typing something in a chat window and I dock, the station services window steals focus and I have to hit spacebar to continue typing. Worse (and far more annoying), if I have a fleet window up at the time, that steals focus and pressing spacebar does *not* put focus back on the chat window. I either have to ctrl+tab or click back in the chat window to continue typing.
Mioelnir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#136 - 2012-03-07 22:15:17 UTC
I like the route-tab changes. Does that also mean that we can "rightclick / set destination | add waypoint" the solarsystems that are listed there?
AnzacPaul
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#137 - 2012-03-07 22:17:25 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
AnzacPaul wrote:
@CCP Karkur is there a chance we can get the market to open the default sub category for an item when viewing market details for it?

For example right clicking "view market details" on a warp disruptor II should navigate you to the "warp jammers" sub column when opening the market.

Well, I was looking into something like that today, but then the dev blog came out so I stopped... it's on my wishlistSmile



This would be and excellent and welcome change. Thanks for the response Big smile
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#138 - 2012-03-07 22:22:00 UTC
ORCACommander wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66839&find=unread

now for shameless self promotion of a feature request
"the horrible ingame calculator"? CCP karkur is not going to like you for that...

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#139 - 2012-03-07 22:26:09 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
ORCACommander wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66839&find=unread

now for shameless self promotion of a feature request
"the horrible ingame calculator"? CCP karkur is not going to like you for that...

ó mæ god!!... ORCACommander, you are dead to me!Evil

(not really though P)

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
ORCACommander
Obsidian Firelance Technologies
#140 - 2012-03-07 22:29:30 UTC
*yelp*

Ummm *runs away*