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Automated spam mails by CSM cantidates allowed?

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Pseudo Ucksth
Camellia Void Cartographics
#101 - 2012-03-07 17:41:53 UTC
testobjekt wrote:

T20.


Godwin's invoked, thread over.
Sentinel Eeex
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-03-07 17:43:39 UTC
CCP Diagoras wrote:
En-masse mailing of electoral messages may only be performed by the candidate themselves. For any queries of other types of messages I'd advise contacting the GM team via the petition system.


And this was advertised where exactly?
Sentinel Eeex
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-03-07 17:46:38 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
I have made a blog posting explaining what I did and why. I hope it helps clarify matters.


I can tell you why, without even reading your blog.

Because you are dumb, that's why.
Admiral Weatheral
Playboy Enterprises
Dark Taboo
#104 - 2012-03-07 17:49:20 UTC
Just another reason to vote for PsychoBitch. He would kick his ass!
Sentinel Eeex
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#105 - 2012-03-07 17:52:22 UTC
I see no problem with everyone who got spammed replying to Trebor.

Multiple times, just to get the message across.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#106 - 2012-03-07 18:06:28 UTC
dishonour

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Xolani1990
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2012-03-07 18:06:50 UTC
CCP Diagoras wrote:
Such things certainly can't be changed during the middle of an election.


That is rubbish, it can be changed now as easily as the rule giving CSM candidates permission to do this was made up around mid-day today.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#108 - 2012-03-07 18:09:01 UTC
Haven't posted in a little bee circle jerk thread in what seems like days.

Mr Epeen Cool
De Guillaume
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#109 - 2012-03-07 18:13:26 UTC
I got the mail
I never even read it.
went to trash and
will stay in
TRASH

I see no big deal but if anyone wants my 16alts to vote for you. I need isk payments or other forms of bribes. If I get none i won't be voting, since I probs won't even remember when it happens.

CSM election are pointless ego stage. The fact you need to elect people to get popular views to CCP is a stupid idea. They should be reading the forums and the complaints to gain their ideas. They should announce their intention and feel out the responses.

Has you ever went so far as chose to go even use want to look more like do?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#110 - 2012-03-07 18:22:15 UTC
I hope this resoundingly backfires and is made public so that other future candidates will not be spamming.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Rundle Allnighter
No Fox Given
Already Replaced.
#111 - 2012-03-07 18:24:53 UTC
I see only a few things here:

1) People who are ass-sore because they didn't think of it or have no F'n clue on how to do it.

2) People who are taking some false high-moral ground only because their candidate didn't do it first

3) People who are somehow ok with 100's of television election commercials "invading" their life but not this.

4) People who are clearly ignoring the physical paper mail that they get during elections but not this.

5) People who are clearly ignoring the 100's of billboards, signs, posters, lawn signs, etc. but not this.

I could go on but I *hope* you get the point.


Now, before you go spouting off about election mechanics and laws, lets just agree they are different depending on where you go. Some places all lawn placards must be removed before voting starts yet other places campaigning can go on till the polls close. So the laws here are the laws here. Deal with it.

So what to do? If you don't like the process and the "laws" of CSM elections then get involved and get them changed. EVE-Mail every current CSM member (Trebor is ONE of them) and ask them to raise this issue with CCP. Do it now. Ask them to talk about it with CCP at the summit. And then eve-mail every member of the CSM 7 once they start their new position and ask them to continue talking to CCP about getting the laws changed.

To come here and to cry about it is about as useful as standing on your porch yelling at the postman for delivering some election mail. Or standing at yelling at your TV (or calling the station) for showing that election commercial yet again.

But remember, only send one eve mail to each CSM member. You don't want to get banned for spamming.

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Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#112 - 2012-03-07 18:25:54 UTC
Easy solution!
Receive spam
Change the link to vote for another candidate
Re-send mail!

~
Herschel Yamamoto
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#113 - 2012-03-07 19:45:05 UTC
Anyone who is trying to get in contact with voters and pass along information is doing the right thing, as far as I'm concerned. Far better to have too many people trying to get me to vote than too few.

Seriously, I can't believe how many people whine whenever they're exposed to democracy. Especially in a game with "Harden the f*** up" as a semi-official motto - you're going to start flipping out over getting an email? Really? It's pathetic.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#114 - 2012-03-07 20:10:47 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
Easy solution!
Receive spam
Change the link to vote for another candidate
Re-send mail!



So I got the spam last night which I thought was funny and annoying at the same time.

So basically I "reply all"-ed , removed Trebor and sent my own campaign message, mostly for "pay back" for such a lame in game move.

To the folks that got my "re-spam" I apologize, it really was meant as a "statement" about being spammed by another candidate.

Any future unsolicited nonsense like I got last night will go immediately in the bin.

Issler
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#115 - 2012-03-07 20:15:03 UTC
oh no
my inbox has mail in it
ccp heellllppp
Lunas Whisper
Chillwater Ltd
#116 - 2012-03-07 20:40:00 UTC
Taedrin wrote:
Kusanagi Kasuga wrote:
For anyone who's unaware - Trebor gets this list not from some underhanded nefarious trick - but rather from people who showed they're interested in EVE's politics.
If you voted in one of the Crowdsourcing prioritisation threads, he'll evemail you. (He mentioned it in one of his earlier mails)

I'm sure that if you ask him, he will remove your name permanently from his mailing list.


While he may harvest names from his crowdsourcing threads, this is most definitely NOT his only source of names as he hit several of my alts - who have never been on any kill mails and have only posted on the forums 3 times (by accident, back when the default character for posting on the forums would randomly change).

However he did not hit any of my alts who had not posted on the forums. This makes me think that he is scraping names off of the forums - either directly, or through eve-search. These other alts are on EVE-WHO, though, so it seems he is NOT scraping the names from there (which makes sense, EVE-WHO limits you to 10 requests every 30 seconds)


He went on one of the programs that shows alliances and who is in corporations and harvested the names from there.

Not sure how I feel about it tbh.
Rundle Allnighter
No Fox Given
Already Replaced.
#117 - 2012-03-07 20:43:16 UTC
And one more thing....

How many of you got Alliance or Corporation eve-mails telling you to vote for candidate X? And then came here to cry about getting one mail from a candidate not in your alliance or corp?

How's that different?

The end result is more people will be talking about the CSM process and (hopefully) voting. For whatever candidate they want.

And that's a good thing for EVE.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#118 - 2012-03-07 20:47:12 UTC
I wonder what would had happened if this trick had been played out by someone not in the CSM. And it certainly leaves a sour taste. But in a sense, it's EVE on its finest: you have been griefed, you can't do **** about it, and CCP applauds the griefer... Roll
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#119 - 2012-03-07 20:54:13 UTC
lol 'griefed' = receiving e-mail

firstworldproblems dot com
Sephiroth Clone VII
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#120 - 2012-03-07 20:55:46 UTC
I got it too, all the names seemed to be people in my corp too.

Why does his name seem familiar?