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Joining what alliance, for "safe" 0.o/lowsec carebaering?

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Boiling Tar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-03-07 09:07:32 UTC
I am looking to make some isk to fund my PvP carrer =).

LvL 4 missions just don't cut it when it comes to isk/hour. So I am hoping to find an alliance to join where I am expected to help in fleetwarfare every now and then. But am mostly left alone to do my lvl 5 missions and DED complexes.

I just want to be able to access a portion of lowse/0.0 space where the alliance I am in are the major flyers in that space. This ofcourse to minimize the risks of getting ganked while in a carebaring lull.

Can anyone give me a pointer to what Alliance would be the best for me?

thanks
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2012-03-07 13:24:51 UTC
Soo..you want to reap all of the benefits of PVEing without the PVP obligations in defending it?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Xyrcaryn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-03-07 13:36:51 UTC
Join goonswarm, while there are no lvl 5s in 0.0 we got plenty of space to go around, look at all that yellow:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
For joining go to http://www.goonfleet.net , should be simple enough
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#4 - 2012-03-07 13:54:02 UTC
Make sure you send your 500M application deposit to a recognized Goon representative! P

As Bumble said, you're asking for all of the benefits of owning space, but with little to no responsibility for holding said space. Don't get your hopes up.
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#5 - 2012-03-07 15:33:15 UTC
*Read thread title, shakes head, walks on*
Arwyel
Manly Men Inc.
#6 - 2012-03-07 15:36:47 UTC
The best thing you can do is pick a space you want to be in (lets say angels space) and then fly down to where you want to run missions and meet the people there. get to know the locals and join the corp thats aroundd
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#7 - 2012-03-07 15:39:34 UTC
Do you really think that will work?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#8 - 2012-03-07 16:09:02 UTC
Boiling Tar wrote:
I am looking to make some isk to fund my PvP carrer =).

Lol

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

Boiling Tar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-03-07 16:20:43 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Soo..you want to reap all of the benefits of PVEing without the PVP obligations in defending it?


Soo..You are unable to read?

quote myself "So I am hoping to find an alliance to join where I am expected to help in fleetwarfare every now and then." Hence I will do my part but that part is not the main objective for me to move out to said area.

And even was that not the case I would still be helping in the overall picture since corptax/alliancetax goes straight to the warcoffert helping keeping the military footing that in turn keeps me safe.


RE: Xyrcaryn

thanks I will check GoonSwarm out.

I Have been on a 5-6 year Vacation from EVE. I left just at the Peak of the BoB dominance of the game (I never had to live through the fall of the BoB Empire luckily =) )

Anyways I was at the moment 2006 ish responsible for farming 1-2 of the 10/10 Serpentis plexes to get the faction items for our Capital fleet. Did it 3-4 times a day for a couple of months. Hence I paid my Isk making and and PvE fun with the 64% hardeners I supplied to the fleet. I also Joined the fleet every now and then since I do love PvP. I was the proud co-owner of one of our Titans (and still is, it is just not used atm since the owner of the account isnt playing =(...)

anyways I don't see that this kind of arrangement is more beneficial to me than to the alliance. It is just a matter of the terms a deal such as this is made.


Having that said. After amassing a small amount of isk I would certainly join in the PvP and overall alliance goal. I just want to get the feel of the game again before I throw myself in there again. PvP after all is the best part of the game...I never remember getting the shakes from running mission or complexes =).


On a last note. I am actually a bit supprised that there is not an alliance out there that uses the financiall force that the masses of carebears out there is. Think of the huge isk potential of having a dedicated corp setup for lvl 5 mission runners and DED complex runners to live the PvE life under passiv protection of the alliance that owns the space they play in. Then Jack that corps tax up to 25-50% and reap the finansiall award of someone elses work.
Boiling Tar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-03-07 16:24:36 UTC
Karak Bol wrote:
*Read thread title, shakes head, walks on*



*Read thread title, shakes head, walks on* *forgets to mention he cares enough to enter thread and remark about not caring at all*
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-03-07 17:03:11 UTC
Boiling Tar wrote:
On a last note. I am actually a bit supprised that there is not an alliance out there that uses the financiall force that the masses of carebears out there is. Think of the huge isk potential of having a dedicated corp setup for lvl 5 mission runners and DED complex runners to live the PvE life under passiv protection of the alliance that owns the space they play in. Then Jack that corps tax up to 25-50% and reap the finansiall award of someone elses work.


Look into the details again.

A lot of things have changed in carebearing in null since 2006 - most notably the respawn mechanics of plexes and anoms out in null.

That's right - you are not asking for a place to make isk, you are asking for the right to compete for what is now a much more limited resource.

That, in brief, is why alliances don't do that. It's not 2006 any more.
Superterrier
#12 - 2012-03-07 17:19:40 UTC
Cyniac wrote:
Boiling Tar wrote:
On a last note. I am actually a bit supprised that there is not an alliance out there that uses the financiall force that the masses of carebears out there is. Think of the huge isk potential of having a dedicated corp setup for lvl 5 mission runners and DED complex runners to live the PvE life under passiv protection of the alliance that owns the space they play in. Then Jack that corps tax up to 25-50% and reap the finansiall award of someone elses work.


Look into the details again.

A lot of things have changed in carebearing in null since 2006 - most notably the respawn mechanics of plexes and anoms out in null.

That's right - you are not asking for a place to make isk, you are asking for the right to compete for what is now a much more limited resource.

That, in brief, is why alliances don't do that. It's not 2006 any more.



Erm - what? Back in '06 there were no Sanctums - just belt rats and exploration...

Much more limited... Umm - yeah...
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#13 - 2012-03-07 18:22:02 UTC
Providence? You don't even need to be in an alliance to carebear here.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security

Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-03-07 18:45:30 UTC
Superterrier wrote:
Erm - what? Back in '06 there were no Sanctums - just belt rats and exploration...

Much more limited... Umm - yeah...



Hehe - point taken my bad... I was not around in 2006

Nevertheless the whole nullsec PVE mechanic has been changed around a fair bit in the last year or so.
Boiling Tar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-03-07 18:46:33 UTC
Cyniac wrote:
Boiling Tar wrote:
On a last note. I am actually a bit supprised that there is not an alliance out there that uses the financiall force that the masses of carebears out there is. Think of the huge isk potential of having a dedicated corp setup for lvl 5 mission runners and DED complex runners to live the PvE life under passiv protection of the alliance that owns the space they play in. Then Jack that corps tax up to 25-50% and reap the finansiall award of someone elses work.


Look into the details again.

A lot of things have changed in carebearing in null since 2006 - most notably the respawn mechanics of plexes and anoms out in null.

That's right - you are not asking for a place to make isk, you are asking for the right to compete for what is now a much more limited resource.

That, in brief, is why alliances don't do that. It's not 2006 any more.



If I dont remember totally incorrect, there was 4x 10/10 serpentis and 6x 6/10 blood/crimson....not that much to go around back then either.

Comparing to today where the anomalies that have a change to escallate are more or less everywhere...As far as I understand noone does any belt ratting anymore since the isk per min is better in the anomalies. For that to be true they have to be spawned pretty frequently. I am like I have said a Re-Noob atm but Everything I have heard and read from other PvE'ers Speaks towards that being a totally false premise by you.
Boiling Tar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-03-07 18:47:49 UTC
Boiling Tar wrote:
Cyniac wrote:
Boiling Tar wrote:
On a last note. I am actually a bit supprised that there is not an alliance out there that uses the financiall force that the masses of carebears out there is. Think of the huge isk potential of having a dedicated corp setup for lvl 5 mission runners and DED complex runners to live the PvE life under passiv protection of the alliance that owns the space they play in. Then Jack that corps tax up to 25-50% and reap the finansiall award of someone elses work.


Look into the details again.

A lot of things have changed in carebearing in null since 2006 - most notably the respawn mechanics of plexes and anoms out in null.

That's right - you are not asking for a place to make isk, you are asking for the right to compete for what is now a much more limited resource.

That, in brief, is why alliances don't do that. It's not 2006 any more.



If I dont remember totally incorrect, there was 4x 10/10 serpentis and 6x 6/10 blood/crimson....not that much to go around back then either.

Comparing to today where the anomalies that have a change to escallate are more or less everywhere...As far as I understand noone does any belt ratting anymore since the isk per min is better in the anomalies. For that to be true they have to be spawned pretty frequently. I am like I have said a Re-Noob atm but Everything I have heard and read from other PvE'ers Speaks towards that being a totally false premise by you.
That is in BoB owned space atm. Which was Fountain and Delve
Ben Dourion
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-03-07 19:08:21 UTC
To the OP

Dont bother with the mean pvpers replying in your thread, just hang in the recruitment forum and look for a calm 0.0 corp, there is plenty of it , and while not in fleet, you will be able to do whatever you want.

There is at least as much carebears in 0.0 than in empire, if not more . At least you have the honesty to say that you want to pve.
Zathryon
Amarr General Drilling and Construction
#18 - 2012-03-07 19:30:02 UTC
i like carebaring in 0.0, thats what I used to do all the time.

just be aware there are probably going to be times where you will have to get in fleet and fight. and that may be all the time if you are at war.

just be aware that it may happen that you cant do your carebaring for months at a time because of home defense fleets, CTAs and reds flying around in your space.
Boiling Tar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-03-07 20:10:23 UTC
Re: Ben and Zathryon

Thanks to both of you.
Will head to the recruiting forum and have a look. Perhaps Goonswarm is recruiting =).
Although GoonSwarm doens't really float my boat at a first glance due to the Zerg referense...I play Terran XD
Zathryon
Amarr General Drilling and Construction
#20 - 2012-03-07 20:12:29 UTC
i really dislike the goons, but thats just me.

look around, there are other alternatives than joining the 'tard brigade.
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