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My vote(s) for The Mittani

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Mirrodin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-07 02:38:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirrodin
Greetings Spacefriends,

Am I important? No. Do my votes necessarily matter? No. Can I stand Goonwaffe? Not in the slightest.

Do I appreciate what The Mittani did for CSM6 (and the CSM as a whole)? Absolutely.

I am not a goon, nor have I ever been one. My alt (Elisriel) is just that, a simple hauler alt. I'm a 8 year (only 2-3 active) character.

I say this for transparency and for people to realize there ARE voters out there that aren't goons, and understand what The Mittani did for EVE, and what he can continue to do. I am one of them. Yes, I was CFC (FCON) for a long time, that does not influence my decision.

For those of you crying "He is chairman because he leads the largest alliance"

It's just not true. I believe in what he has to say, and what he can do. I don't like him or his corporation of idiotic trolls, but I appreciate what he does for my Spaceships.

-Mirrodin
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-03-07 02:40:59 UTC
The denizens of Jita Park - mostly bitter npc forum alts - are constantly doing a disservice to my consituents by claiming that my supporters are all from Goonswarm.

In CSM6, only 1750 of my 5365 votes came from GSF.

But I'm happy to see other candidates dismiss my supporters as 'sheep' - it just inspires them more. The other contenders may not value them, but I do.

~hi~

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#3 - 2012-03-07 03:20:35 UTC
Not a Goon (heck, barely have the training wheels off in this game) but been following the goings-on in EVE for quite a while, FWIW the changes put in this year rekindled my interest to break down and cough up the moolah to start out in the universe, so not familiar with the cults of personality or the players beyond name recognition so that doesnt influence my decision.

Throw roses at him, or throw rocks at him (or railgun rounds, missiles, lasers, blaster bolts, cream pies, launched cows, etc.) The MIttani does get results and does get things done.

So, then.

Make Mine Mittani



Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Clyde ElectraGlide
Emara Entertainment Inc.
#4 - 2012-03-07 03:43:54 UTC
I'm from the Center for Advanced Studies and The Mittani is my favorite candidate in the CSM7 election.

In Need of a New Signature

Kethry Avenger
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-03-07 04:05:30 UTC
If I wasn't giving Hans all my votes, Trebor, Seleene and Mittens would have had one a piece. I alternately find The Mittani funny and sometimes trollish on the forums but when it comes to the work of the CSM he is one of the members who I am sure takes it seriously and works effectively for the player base at large.
Heathkit
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-03-07 04:10:42 UTC
Kethry Avenger wrote:
If I wasn't giving Hans all my votes, Trebor, Seleene and Mittens would have had one a piece. I alternately find The Mittani funny and sometimes trollish on the forums but when it comes to the work of the CSM he is one of the members who I am sure takes it seriously and works effectively for the player base at large.


Aw, c'mon. You couldn't spare one vote for Mittani?
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#7 - 2012-03-07 04:22:31 UTC
Kethry Avenger wrote:
If I wasn't giving Hans all my votes, Trebor, Seleene and Mittens would have had one a piece. I alternately find The Mittani funny and sometimes trollish on the forums but when it comes to the work of the CSM he is one of the members who I am sure takes it seriously and works effectively for the player base at large.


Agree with this.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Kethry Avenger
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-03-07 04:24:32 UTC
Heathkit wrote:
Kethry Avenger wrote:
If I wasn't giving Hans all my votes, Trebor, Seleene and Mittens would have had one a piece. I alternately find The Mittani funny and sometimes trollish on the forums but when it comes to the work of the CSM he is one of the members who I am sure takes it seriously and works effectively for the player base at large.


Aw, c'mon. You couldn't spare one vote for Mittani?


No both The Mittani, and Trebor, made strong arguments for voting for Hans since he most represents the issues that effect me directly. Pretty sure he got one of my votes last year but I honestly can't remember who exactly I voted for last time.
Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-03-07 04:32:17 UTC
I'm from the School of applied knowldege and won't be voting for Mittens.

I could have considerd him as a legitimate voting option until I spent very little time reviewing the candidacy details and some of the issues. It soon became apparently clear the arrogance and selfish idiocy that Mittens represents.

It is also largely no suprise the lengths of manipulation Mittens will go to to scramble for votes. Nor I imagine is the idea that alts posting in favour of Mittens to eek out support he needs:

Andski wrote:
and our vast network of alts that apparently consists of everyone that posts with their mains


The Mittani wrote:
I ran for CSM on a platform of explicitly being a manipulative bastard


There's also useful tools like vote match to help you examine all the candidates aswell as viewing opinions and issues in the forum in an informed way of course.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-03-07 04:35:48 UTC
I have to admit it would be a cruel but hilarious prank to make Mittens the chair of a CSM consisting of Xenuria, Riverini, Issler Dainze, Fon Revedhort and a few other whackjobs.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-03-07 04:38:00 UTC
Delici Feelgood wrote:
words words words

Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of nobody caring what some NPC corp forum alt thinks.
Mirrodin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-03-07 04:38:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirrodin
Delici Feelgood wrote:
I'm from the School of applied knowldege and won't be voting for Mittens.

I could have considerd him as a legitimate voting option until I spent very little time reviewing the candidacy details and some of the issues. It soon became apparently clear the arrogance and selfish idiocy that Mittens represents.

It is also largely no suprise the lengths of manipulation Mittens will go to to scramble for votes. Nor I imagine is the idea that alts posting in favour of Mittens to eek out support he needs:

Andski wrote:
and our vast network of alts that apparently consists of everyone that posts with their mains


The Mittani wrote:
I ran for CSM on a platform of explicitly being a manipulative bastard


There's also useful tools like [some terrible tool] to help you examine all the candidates aswell as viewing opinions and issues in the forum in an informed way of course.


Do a background check on me. I'm both active and a main, with no link to other alts aside from Elisriel. I am no alt.
Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-03-07 04:42:02 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
In CSM6, only 1750 of my 5365 votes came from GSF.


Representing something less than 2.5% of the actual playerbase.

Hardly suprsing he's desperate for votes.

Since it's clear any support for a mandate he wants is pretty weak with those figures.

Should apathy in voting turn around to the extent of voting against his platform he could easily lose his chairmanship, maybe even his seat.
Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-03-07 04:42:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Delici Feelgood
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Delici Feelgood wrote:
words words words

Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of nobody caring what some NPC corp forum alt thinks.


Sorry your not making sense, you're a typical Goon troll.
Azelor Delaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-03-07 04:46:09 UTC
Proof enough that the Phyrexian corruption is far deeper than we all knew...
Win Sui
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-03-07 04:56:10 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:


Make Mine Mittani




And by their words you shall know them.
Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-03-07 05:15:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Delici Feelgood
Mirrodin wrote:
Delici Feelgood wrote:
I'm from the School of applied knowldege and won't be voting for Mittens.

I could have considerd him as a legitimate voting option until I spent very little time reviewing the candidacy details and some of the issues. It soon became apparently clear the arrogance and selfish idiocy that Mittens represents.

It is also largely no suprise the lengths of manipulation Mittens will go to to scramble for votes. Nor I imagine is the idea that alts posting in favour of Mittens to eek out support he needs:

Andski wrote:
and our vast network of alts that apparently consists of everyone that posts with their mains


The Mittani wrote:
I ran for CSM on a platform of explicitly being a manipulative bastard


There's also useful tools like [some terrible tool] to help you examine all the candidates aswell as viewing opinions and issues in the forum in an informed way of course.


Do a background check on me. I'm both active and a main, with no link to other alts aside from Elisriel. I am no alt.


I do not reject the plausability of people from outside of GSF voting for Mittens, that isn't my claim. I can't and won't explore evidence as to RL status of players and who owns what account etc. as the aspect of personal details is held in confindence by CCP and is not permitted to be posted. Nor do I have any real desire to investigate peoples personal details for EvE (it is a game after all).

My argument is simply presenting reasonable doubt based on GSF's own testimony as to the presence of corruption and manipulation through propoganda methods. As such it should not be viewed as a personal attack on you Mirrodin. Also you are perfectly entitled to vote for who you wish.

Mirrodin wrote:
I am not a goon, nor have I ever been one. My alt (Elisriel) is just that, a simple hauler alt. I'm a 8 year (only 2-3 active) character.

I say this for transparency and for people to realize there ARE voters out there that aren't goons, and understand what The Mittani did for EVE, and what he can continue to do. I am one of them. Yes, I was CFC (FCON) for a long time, that does not influence my decision.


My post is merely addressing the issues surrounding your justifications as how you are supporting your voting reasons as to be important due to not being directly associated/affiliated with GSF. So as a result my argument represents a plausible viewpoint why lack of affiliation may not necessarily be judged as credible.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-03-07 05:25:31 UTC
Delici Feelgood wrote:
Sorry your not making sense, your an atypical Goon troll.


You don't know the difference between your and you're and you have the nerve to complain about somebody else not making sense?

Also, atypical doesn't mean what you think it means.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Rei Seiji
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-03-07 05:28:07 UTC
So how does the Mittani kool aid taste? I voted for Hans, and he offered way better kool aid than what your Mittens offers.
Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-03-07 05:28:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Delici Feelgood
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Delici Feelgood wrote:
Sorry your not making sense, your an atypical Goon troll.


You don't know the difference between your and you're and you have the nerve to complain about somebody else not making sense?

Also, atypical doesn't mean what you think it means.


Thanks for spotting the errors, now corrected.
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