Science & Industry

If you're in an alliance, they have to war dec the alliance.

It's probably worth it to discourage small time griefers from blowing up your POS just because they feel like it. If someone really wants you gone for whatever reason in high sec, it probably wouldn't stop them.

You could either set up a death star configuration, or just take down your POS when you're war dec'd.

There are plenty of alliances that don't charge to join them, so couldn't hurt to look into them.

This, basically...

Also, just because you're an Industry-corp, it doesn't mean you're not allowed to have some PvP-useful skills in case you get wardecced. And if you do a bit of PvE every now and then, having Propulsion Jamming trained to just level 1 is a good idea. It lets you use Stasis Webifiers and Warp Disruptors/Scramblers, and Stasis Webifying is always useful in missions. Another slightly underrated skill is Target Painting. It really does wonders for your damage output if you use Missiles with a larger Explosion Radius than your target, whether it be PvE or PvP.

Just get the basic E-WAR skills to level 1, and you'll have a huge chance against your oppressors as long as you fly coordinated.

Remember: It's not about who has the most SP. It's about who has the most resources available and who adapts best to the situation. If you really are an Industry-corp, I assume you have at least some blueprints. Use those to build ships and modules using your deposit of minerals (if you have a such). You should have the advantage, even if your enemies have a gang of Battleships. Chances are that your wardeccers expect you to undock in big, shiny ships, and are just waiting to one-shot your Hulks and Orcas. So go take them by surprise! Undock in a fleet of identically fitted cheap-ass Rifters and they'll reconsider just who they're dealing with. Worst-case scenario: They get pissed off/excited and continue the war another week. Best-case scenario: They find out that they have wardecced the wrong industrialists, and drop the war, after having lost 2 mil and a fully T2 fitted Battleship/Heavy Assault Ship/Strategic Cruiser/Other expensive ship.

- Hire mercenaries.
- Learn to shoot people yourselves. Run off a few pvp ships and fittings for each member. Practice. Go on roams every now and again.
- Don't be PURELY industrial, and keep a pvp-er or two on staff. Possibly tempting them in with discounted ships and modules. Or a paycheck.
- Alliance! Possibly with a pvp corp; protection in exchange for mates' rates.
- Tank your industrial ships!

The corp I just joined a few days ago is actually dealing with this same situation.

Long story short we broke up to form a new corp so we are quite small (8 members). What is happening now is that a few locals noticed we are an industry corp and are now blackmailing us to pay them (200m) otherwise they will wardecced us.

From what I've read and discussed with a few people who have been playing much longer then I have is that as a small corp (specifically industry) you will have this type of thing happen quite often when starting a new corp (that has few members) or simply running a small corp with a few members. Players with alts in throw away corps will simply wardec you because they can and because its so cheap. And if things go pear shaped for them they simply disban their corp and start a new one.

This is the reason why we decided to not deal with mercs since the player would just disban his corp, not continue the war after a week, etc.

The only option really that I've been able to resolve players wardeccing us is to join an alliance. It will cost them more to declare war, and will give you access to pvp players who would love the chance to pvp in highsec.

Again this - one other thing, the location of your POS is critical to how often you get wardecced. If it's in a system full of griefers, well expect wars. If it is in a quiet out-of-the-way location you'll probably be left in peace.

well, VV , one idea would be to join an alliance and hopefull that alliance will go war dec that wise guy corp and instead of eight to ten members to fight, they'll have say 100 plus to fight with now and get jakced up in the process.
or you could just stay in station for seven days and let them eat crow. Hopefully, you all have alts than can do something to make up for your mains source of income from mining, making ships, etc.... I was once in a corp that got war decced for three straight weeks and I told the war dec corp, I hope they know all the time they war decced my corp, I was out on the town with their gfs, wives. . that's why once I'm satisfied with my main's skills, I train the other two slots to something similar where being war decced won't make a damn difference as far as making isk. mission running alts or mining alts that build ships and stuff like the real mains can.

Vanessa I wanted to give you a follow up to my previous post relating to our small / new industry corp being wardecced and blackmailed.

We joined up with an alliance that had a few people we knew and about 2 hours after we joined (causing the alliance to declare war) the dillweed retracted the wardec.

Just wanted to let you know that the extra isk you pay out to an alliance in fess could be worth it in the long run.

And yes an alliance can just as easily be wardecced but you will not need to worry about conartists exploiting your small size / non-focus on pvp.

Honestly, the simplest defense is to be boring. Leave a character logged in at a station for hours on end while the station is being camped. Go watch a movie. This can be quite amusing if you think about it (you're wasting their time). If you really want to tease them, undock and redock every hour or three. Most war declarations in empire of the sort that you're describing are in it for the kicks. If you're not entertaining them, they'll typically get bored and go do somethign else.

Seems super legit

ps this is my shocked face

I will repeat it because it's the best thing you can do in high sec to avoid many deccs, as an undy corp do not draw attention to yourself as interesting .

Be careful and fly only that which is necessary for the job at hand, don't fly your big new black ops around in high sec randomly.. there is no need and you stand out as a value target with no common sense.

Do not pay randsom demands unless you like painting yourself with a large bullseye

Wardeccing rules are changing - there will soon be no shields to avoid wardeccing all together. If you are a corp with 20 members - the cost to dec you will be 20 mill + 500000 per non-trial player in your corp, so 30 million. If you join a larger alliance the cost will become 50 million + 500000 for every player in the alliance. This could make it very expensive for an attacker to dec you. (Note: larger 3000 member alliances would cost the attackers a billion and a half per week to wardec.

If you are decced (it will happen) the same rule applies; do nothing to make the war interesting for the attacker. Corps and alliances can join you midstream as allies.. which could make the cost of reupping the war very much more expensive.. so you could hire a merc.. or gain friends to help.. remember though.. the more "fun" you are as a target the more incentive the deccer has to reup the war

DO NOT talk to the wardeccers..let your diplomatic officer address their leader to discover the reason for the wardec if possible.. Anything else you say to the attackers maybe considered provication for more griefing.. or fodder for laughter at your expense; either way you are serving up entertainment

Make friends with the neighbors in your home - the less of a threat you are to the locals the less likely they will hire some pest control merc to have you removed

Talk about your plans with your corp before the event of a wardec.. you want no surprises to avoid attrition if possible. when the war comes, nothing is more frustrating than seeing your corp shrink while tryng to deal with players that don't understand whats going on and why .. they usually end up leaving your corp and likely the game all together .

good luck