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RvB. Worth Joining?

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Mistress Milana
Dawn's LightP
#1 - 2012-03-06 00:05:16 UTC
I am trying to learn pvp but thought RvB might be worth it. What do you think? Will I learn alot about pvp mechanics? Will people teach me how to fit ships? I want to ultimately be good at soloing and small gangs in low or nullsec.
Draco Rosso
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-03-06 03:26:46 UTC
yes
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#3 - 2012-03-06 04:23:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Xpaulusx
RvB is probably one of the most convenient ways to start PvPing. Buy yourself a bunch of Rifters and read this:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/wensley/The_Rifter_Guide_Solo_PvP.pdf

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-03-06 04:25:28 UTC
absolutely, yes.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Deanne Sheriff
Virtue Investments
#5 - 2012-03-06 04:38:57 UTC
I wonder how much they paid for that EVE Online advert?
Derth Ramir
Fight The Blob
#6 - 2012-03-06 05:41:35 UTC
Deanne Sheriff wrote:
I wonder how much they paid for that EVE Online advert?



Probably not at all. Most likely ccp and one their attempts to bring in more people.

Fight The Blob.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#7 - 2012-03-06 05:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
RvB is fun if you want on demand pew.

If, however, you

a) are turned off by contrived environments (can't be podded, it's hisec arranged fights)
b) dislike blob warfare (gotta love those rifter blobs they got going on)
c) aspire to be a solid combat pilot in truly dangerous situations

then you need to look at other options than RVB.

If you want to learn how to solo or do small gang in an uncontrolled environment, RvB is not the place to do it.

Otherwise, RVB is a solid institution for the market it serves.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Xi 'xar
Mise en Abyme
The Ancients.
#8 - 2012-03-06 07:13:20 UTC
RvB is good fun and can teach you a lot. Agony Unleashed courses are also excellent and are relatively cheap. The best thing however, is just to fit up a few T1 frigates and get out there and give it a go.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2012-03-06 08:16:06 UTC
Best thing about RvB is the immediate, 23/7 easy access to PvP. Most of the time all you need to do is undock, and it's on.

It's mostly small ships so not everything you learn is directly applicable elsewhere, but you'll still learn a lot about ship-to-ship combat and it's great fun. Outside RvB, however, most of PvP is not about ship-to-ship combat, it's about the preparations, being aware of events outside grid and trying to control the unknown factors.

RvB is also very casual, however, and doesn't really constitute a complete Eve experience, people come and go so the ties between corp members are rather loose.

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Stacy Blackoak
Der Tobende Mob
#10 - 2012-03-06 13:40:34 UTC
The best people you will ever meet in Eve. Go for it.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#11 - 2012-03-06 13:59:15 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
If you want to learn how to solo or do small gang in non-controlled environment, RvB is not the place to do it.


You can always ask for - and receive - 1vs1 to the death or only to the hull, something that might be hard to come by elsewhere.

As for controlled environment, yes, there is a certain truth to it, but on the other hand, with a perma-war going on (and usually 3rd party wardecs on top of that) you will probably get at least SOME situational awareness... I guess its more of the baby-step-approach as opposed to the jump-into-the-cold-water-approach.

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Kingwood
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#12 - 2012-03-06 14:37:58 UTC
Xi 'xar wrote:
RvB is good fun and can teach you a lot. Agony Unleashed courses are also excellent and are relatively cheap. The best thing however, is just to fit up a few T1 frigates and get out there and give it a go.


Agony will only teach you how to roll with dual Falcons every fight they're in.
Kirith Vespira
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-06 18:34:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirith Vespira
I was in RvB for a while when blob tactics ruled, but overall it was a good experience.

Edit: also did a couple Agony classes under different alts. Very good learning experience if you pay attention to what the instructors are telling you. Agony is very much worth the cost. Big thumbs up to them.
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#14 - 2012-03-06 20:14:36 UTC
Derth Ramir wrote:
Deanne Sheriff wrote:
I wonder how much they paid for that EVE Online advert?



Probably not at all. Most likely ccp and one their attempts to bring in more people.


From what I've heard, nothing at all. I think it's a great move by CCP to advertise ways for brand new players to find pvp corps. The hardest thing for a new player trying to start pvping is finding a corp that will take them and have action/opportunities for pvp once there.

Solo Rifter since 2009
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#15 - 2012-03-06 23:12:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
If you want to learn how to solo or do small gang in non-controlled environment, RvB is not the place to do it.


You can always ask for - and receive - 1vs1 to the death or only to the hull, something that might be hard to come by elsewhere.



Certainly. Though, I find the pervasive culture of KM whoring plus RvB blobbing is too much for most new combat pilots to resist. For a new pilot learning the ropes, it can create a false sense that you actually know what you're doing. So they almost always go with the blob and kill whatever rather than wanting to challenge themselves and grow as a combat pilot by soloing or fighting outnumbered.

I did recruit one guy who had a short stint in RVB and like the rest of his KB, he was purely looking for 1v1 and avoided the blobfest. But I think he's more the exception than the rule

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#16 - 2012-03-06 23:28:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Magnum
I left RvB about five months ago after spending more than a year on the Blue side. No one corp can give you the complete Eve experience, but RvB covers a lot of ground and is great for casual players. They also do roams in Low Sec and sometimes in Null, and they get wardecced from time to time as well. The T1 frigate swarms are just one aspect of RvB PVP, and the most conveniently accessable. It's also a great way to learn to FC, if you participate in all the various PvP options RvP has going.

I highly recommend them for new players wanting to get into PVP, definitely. Older players getting burned out with whatever they've been doing in-game should also give RvB a look. It was a giant in-game morale boost for me when I joined. Didn't even feel butthurt when I clumsily lost my Arazu within five minutes of first arriving in the home system. My mistake for thinking newbs in frigates would be pushovers.

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Faith Lincoln
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-03-07 11:16:57 UTC
I joined RvB some days ago. Since then I joined 2 fleets and chatted with some of the ppl there.
Sure it's too early to call it a success, but I've much fun and already started to lern a lot.

Not all of what I learned whay taught on purpose but some mistakes I made were soo obvious that I got it myself.
But I don't think I'd noticed if I'd tried to have solo pvp.
Valerius Anthar
Nuts Butts and EuroSluts
#18 - 2012-03-07 13:02:02 UTC
I've been in it for about two days so far. It's been pretty fun, only issue I've noticed so far is the killmail whoring culture where people are encouraged to blob to get in on a virtual killmail. In all fairness though, there are an awful lot of anti-frig fits as can be expected, especially on other faction frigs and assault frigs, which makes roaming around without a blob in a standard Incursus or Rifter quite dangerous. I expect I'll be blobbing for a few weeks or so until I have the isk/skills to fly something that won't get ripped apart by Drams or Comets, etc.
Sinderblock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-07 16:44:18 UTC
Valerius Anthar wrote:
I've been in it for about two days so far. It's been pretty fun, only issue I've noticed so far is the killmail whoring culture where people are encouraged to blob to get in on a virtual killmail. In all fairness though, there are an awful lot of anti-frig fits as can be expected, especially on other faction frigs and assault frigs, which makes roaming around without a blob in a standard Incursus or Rifter quite dangerous. I expect I'll be blobbing for a few weeks or so until I have the isk/skills to fly something that won't get ripped apart by Drams or Comets, etc.


Recently reactivated after a few years off and am considering doing the red vs. blue thing again. The thing that kind of turned me off to it the last time I played is the large numbers of really expensive ships that were roaming around. Is this still the case (it is hard not to blob when you are undocking a merlin vs jags or drams)? Also are the sides balanced at the moment or does one of the sides need more numbers?
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#20 - 2012-03-07 19:34:06 UTC
RvB isn't bad for people to get started in pvp as it teaches you getting used to lose ships.

I'm pretty sure you can also learn a few basics beyond that, but when I used to have an alt in it, it was usually a mindless frig and cruiser meatgrinder.

At the time I checked it out it was usually red getting slaughtered and blue looting the field all day long - so the whole thing about FCs adjusting their fleets to keep fights balanced didn't really work at that time.
This may ebb and flow and the opposite may be the case today, but it certainly didn't change in a short-time period as you'd expect if FCs matched their fleets against each other.
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