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[Video] Of Fools and Foes (lowsec battleship pvp)

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Gods Coldblood
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-03-01 11:50:21 UTC
This is a pretty good vid by eve standards. I only had a few things I personally think could have been done better!

It was really great to see someone else fly a vindicator into battle and see how they fly it. I felt your footage could have been better in certain areas as I felt for the most part I was watching low risk PVP. It also felt at certain times when flying your vindi that you were holding onto the gate for dear life, while I do understand why you did this I have to say restricting vindicator movements isn’t always the best choice of action.

On the flip side of things you seem to be one of the best scouts around so keep up the good work, this forum needs people like you to entertain the masses!!

That being said I feel that I can help you in other areas of your game and of course the public as well!

The common consensus is that most people think that when flying an active shield tank that overloading your invul is the best choice of management during battle (basically because you can overload it for a long time)! I for one have to disagree with this on so many levels. My main reasons for this are that I think mid slot modules are and should be one of the most utilised for heat usage to be a really effective killer. I can’t count how many times overloading my tackle gear or propulsion gear has caused me to be prevail or exceed my expectations during a fight! I also think that short controlled burst of overloaded shield boosting is far superior and you will use less heat so other modules can be used!

I hope my insight can help you in your future pvp and vid making!!! You can always contract me in game on Gods Failblood with any questions you may have (tho I can’t guarantee I will know the answer) or alternatively you can just mail me at LowriskNerdraGe@gmail.com

Kthxbai

My Youtube Channel: Here

Jin-Maei Saan
Give my 11percent back
#22 - 2012-03-01 16:05:15 UTC
Who are you and what have you done with God's Coldblood? Or what has he done with you?
Prozacxx
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#23 - 2012-03-01 17:33:46 UTC
lol i thought this was DHB wildcat vid
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-03-01 18:55:56 UTC
Yeah, really sweet video. Just because it's a well used playstyle nowadays doesn't invalidate it any.
Firebolt145
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#25 - 2012-03-01 20:23:51 UTC
Moar pls.
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
#26 - 2012-03-01 20:45:48 UTC
All in all it was OK but a bit long. You probably didn't need the Vindicator footage in there or half the other stuff.

After all your snide commentary on other peoples perfectly decent videos I was expecting something worth watching.

What I got was something like a hybrid of DHB Wildcat tactics mixed with NightmareX level competence.

I like how you imply solo but your fleetmembers are clearly visible in system.

There was far too much whining in the commentary. The excuses for running away were amusing at least.

Shoddy heat and cap management.... etc.

Next time be a bit more humble on the forums and you won't be judged so critically yourself.
F1 F8
Give my 11percent back
#27 - 2012-03-01 21:49:20 UTC
Troll harder
CruxArc
Black Souls Industries
#28 - 2012-03-02 00:35:53 UTC
Firebolt145 wrote:
Moar pls.

+1
Dr Evil Cioran
#29 - 2012-03-02 04:11:45 UTC
Gods Coldblood wrote:
This is a pretty good vid by eve standards. I only had a few things I personally think could have been done better!

It was really great to see someone else fly a vindicator into battle and see how they fly it. I felt your footage could have been better in certain areas as I felt for the most part I was watching low risk PVP. It also felt at certain times when flying your vindi that you were holding onto the gate for dear life, while I do understand why you did this I have to say restricting vindicator movements isn’t always the best choice of action.

On the flip side of things you seem to be one of the best scouts around so keep up the good work, this forum needs people like you to entertain the masses!!

That being said I feel that I can help you in other areas of your game and of course the public as well!

The common consensus is that most people think that when flying an active shield tank that overloading your invul is the best choice of management during battle (basically because you can overload it for a long time)! I for one have to disagree with this on so many levels. My main reasons for this are that I think mid slot modules are and should be one of the most utilised for heat usage to be a really effective killer. I can’t count how many times overloading my tackle gear or propulsion gear has caused me to be prevail or exceed my expectations during a fight! I also think that short controlled burst of overloaded shield boosting is far superior and you will use less heat so other modules can be used!

I hope my insight can help you in your future pvp and vid making!!! You can always contract me in game on Gods Failblood with any questions you may have (tho I can’t guarantee I will know the answer) or alternatively you can just mail me at LowriskNerdraGe@gmail.com

Kthxbai

Did someone farted?
Jackaryas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-03-02 13:56:36 UTC
2ippy
Gregarious Games Mechanized Federation
Solyaris Chtonium
#31 - 2012-03-03 08:54:43 UTC
+1 for using Sabaton

Now I'll go actually watch it brb
zahg
PARABELUM-Project
#32 - 2012-03-03 16:14:02 UTC  |  Edited by: zahg
NIce video as expected!

Its good to see some nice brawling action...it inspire me to keep looking for solo when i just wanna blob like everyone does

I also agree with some of the criticism here.
Gerdan BloodELF
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2012-03-04 09:02:44 UTC
I totally forgot i lent shiroi money to pay for that vindi. I need to chase him up on that Big smile

Great video mate. Enjoyed it alot.
HooKz
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#34 - 2012-03-06 03:13:35 UTC
Daneel Trevize wrote:
Download faster!!!

Edit:
Things I wasn't expecting:
Adrestia, indeed that whole intro section
Robbie Williams

Things I was expecting:
Vindicator
BS Good Fights

Inspiring as ever!
And congrats on the wedding!

You so could have tackled that Ashimmu. P

As a purely visual thing, I'll prefer to imagine your gatehumping pirate faction BS is like some caged/leashed animal striving to lash out and show off that improved pace, rather than stuck on the gate model or adrift in the watery physics engine. Lol



Not to detract, but Who.T.F. is HooKz and why does he have that 250mm Railgun Adrestia with on-grid supercap support Roll

Haven't had that rail gun fit on my adrestia for a while, got a bit boring, though with the rail buff it was actually pretty good. Imagine a vagabond with more damage, much more range, a point that can go 60k (over 100 with gang boosters and overload), and goes over 4k a second with gang boosters, 6k overloaded. Oh, and a bigger drone bay :)
Shiroi Okami
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#35 - 2012-03-06 09:32:30 UTC
Dunno if you got my courier'd mail or not, but the vid was great. Few things I didn't like (as I said in the mail), but overall an excellent vid, well done.

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Cartheron Crust
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#36 - 2012-03-09 17:13:41 UTC
Can't be having this on the second page so soon. Bump.

Love the maelstrom stuff as always. Cool
Garmon
Gods Holy Light Bringing You're Penance
#37 - 2012-03-10 06:16:25 UTC
enjoyed it, good job, and grats on getting married
I like Duncan
Miriam Sasko
Matari Exodus
#38 - 2012-03-12 10:31:27 UTC
Thanks for all the nice comments! Unfrtunately, I only have sporadic internet access atm, hence the late reply (when I did have access, I preferred to give the others who posted videos over the last days feedback... wtf is it with eve video makers, almost nothing for like 2,5 months and then 2 vids a day for a week Shocked )

@ Daneel
Yes, I could have tackled that Ashimmu. I did click the scram and probably did so just one tick too late - and cursed myself for not dropping it off the non-aligned Drake earlier. Such is the power of wrong mindsets, I expected them to warp in more, not to bail again after a single loss.

Also, yeah, I was quite surprised that I actually liked some Robbie Williams stuff, and it is strictly limited to "Swing when you're winning" which is a simply epic album if you have any foible for jazz. Damn that guy for wasting his voice on his usual ventures.

Gods Coldblood wrote:
...

I thought a while what to make of this post, and I decided in the end that the last paragraph is probably just a pre-emptive counter troll, so I'll thank you for the earlier parts. The Vindicator clips certainly were low risk, and I am fully aware that my "safety first" approach limited my performance. But you can see them trying to bump me off the gate in both clips, and I think it might have turned sour if I had been more aggressive - but we'll never know.

What you wrote about shield tanks makes a lot of sense. I usually overload the invul because it gives some almost free ehp and cap efficiency, but in my mind the effect was greater than eft says it is, and you are right, overloading any module for long continuous times deals too much heat damage. During the fight in Antem, I made a clear mistake there (and also said so in the movie), but I'll rethink my heat management approach overall. Cheers.

Prozacxx wrote:
lol i thought this was DHB wildcat vid

Not sure what to make of this. Is the video so different from my previous ones?

Johanne D'Arc wrote:
All in all it was OK but a bit long. You probably didn't need the Vindicator footage in there or half the other stuff.

After all your snide commentary on other peoples perfectly decent videos I was expecting something worth watching.

What I got was something like a hybrid of DHB Wildcat tactics mixed with NightmareX level competence.

I like how you imply solo but your fleetmembers are clearly visible in system.

There was far too much whining in the commentary. The excuses for running away were amusing at least.

Shoddy heat and cap management.... etc.

Next time be a bit more humble on the forums and you won't be judged so critically yourself.

Guess what, I have no problem being judged as harshly as you wish, as long as it is fair and helpful. You consider clips boring? Tell me which ones. Whining in the commentary, excuses? Hmm, if someone had accused me of whining thanks to he opening voice over, I would have understood it, but in the comments? All I did was give some insight into my decision making which does not have to be perfect but which I thought would make the video more entertaining.

Yes, there was some shoddy micromanagement, I never claimed to be perfect. Still think it's ok though. If not, what do you think was bad? Remeber, being helpful and constructive is the key.

Also, re: snide comments. I thknk the only comment I ever left that I might have considered "snide" was in Laktos' second video, and he seems to not mind. All were strictly trying to be, once again, constructive.
zahg wrote:
I also agree with some of the criticism here.

Details?
Shiroi Okami wrote:
Dunno if you got my courier'd mail or not, but the vid was great. Few things I didn't like (as I said in the mail), but overall an excellent vid, well done.

Yeah, thanks for the mail.

Shiroi also said in the mail that I should clarify that he did not bet against his own team. I was semi active in another alliance's team at the time, and the bet basically was "if one of us finds himself with more cash than usual after the tournament, he'll give the other a pirate bs". That one outcome was much more likely than the other was clear to both of us at
the time, so the ship should be considered a gift.

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Teron Radec
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
#39 - 2012-03-14 06:33:41 UTC
Epic.

Gods Coldblood
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-03-15 09:17:43 UTC
I personally think your Vindi parts we’re risky in certain areas as you said you were a little scared to aggress and other factors - I would say 70% of your other ships fights were low risk pvp. You actually failed to show me your point which you brought up in your video although I value you trying!

But this is all subject to someone’s opinion on the matter and we’re all entitled to that. At the end of the day we all come to this sub forum to be entertained and maybe inspired at times, it’s just a shame that some people watch peoples vid’s as if there marking someone’s written exam. Although help should always be appreciated!

The best constructive criticism I could give is work on your camera view. I think at times it’s too focused on your ship, zoom out a little so we can see more of what’s going on in the fight and not have to use the overview as a guide. It is something that can be hard to master and I do struggle with it myself!

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