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Charater price increase & latest wave of banned bots
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Hemmo Paskiainen
#1 - 2012-03-03 01:12:20 UTC
Serious... i see 50 mil sp characters go for 18+ billion isk. botters just replacing banned accounts or is it caused by incursions farmers buying new toons due the very profitable & easy isk making (120mil+ per hour)?

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Brock Nelson
#2 - 2012-03-03 01:36:20 UTC
I doubt botters would want 50m sp character...

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OfBalance
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-03-03 01:36:51 UTC
tldr: Invest in characters today, the sky is the limit on tech nightmare/mach alts!
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#4 - 2012-03-04 09:00:23 UTC
My guess is Plex price has more to do with it.

5.7 Billion a year to plex a sale alt.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#5 - 2012-03-05 08:23:00 UTC
The biggest contributing factor, is a mad dash to get every extra capital and super capital pilot out of harms way, XXXX don't want those falling into the wrong hands, its just better to buy them, put em on an account and let it go inactive.

Who here hasn't noticed those pilots fetching the very best ISK per SP, I have!

With that much less characters available on the market, naturally more buyers there will be competing for other characters.

as for character prices, meh, its bidding, let the bidding take its natural course.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-03-05 08:43:49 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
The biggest contributing factor, is a mad dash to get every extra capital and super capital pilot out of harms way, XXXX don't want those falling into the wrong hands, its just better to buy them, put em on an account and let it go inactive.


lolno
Laura Marhsal
Dark Echo Club
#7 - 2012-03-05 09:07:19 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
The biggest contributing factor, is a mad dash to get every extra capital and super capital pilot out of harms way, XXXX don't want those falling into the wrong hands, its just better to buy them, put em on an account and let it go inactive.

Who here hasn't noticed those pilots fetching the very best ISK per SP, I have!

With that much less characters available on the market, naturally more buyers there will be competing for other characters.

as for character prices, meh, its bidding, let the bidding take its natural course.


this can not be the only factor..
i will say it has something to do with the plex as well
and that people does have more isk then never be4!
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-03-05 23:00:18 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
incursions farmers buying new toons due the very profitable & easy isk making


yes

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-03-06 04:42:48 UTC
Posting in a stealth "Nerf incursions" thread.

And yet again the profit/h numbers are taken from a situation when you the only t3 VG fleet in system. Aka bullshit propaganda.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#10 - 2012-03-06 06:26:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Kara Books
Cedo Nulli wrote:
Posting in a stealth "Nerf incursions" thread.

And yet again the profit/h numbers are taken from a situation when you the only t3 VG fleet in system. Aka bullshit propaganda.


Cooncidently, I notice quite allot of negativity from goonwaffe, as if they dont want new players to keep joining and keeping their stay in New eden.

In fact, there are so many people enjoying themselves, learning game mechanics, making friends, getting hooked, I dont think the Dev's are in any rush to break the customers up.

What ever happened to the funny, entertaining trolls.

Why is it, there always needs to be a group of people bent on negativity, instead of helping themselves to a possible, limitless amount of fresh new recruits.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-03-06 07:30:23 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Cedo Nulli wrote:
Posting in a stealth "Nerf incursions" thread.

And yet again the profit/h numbers are taken from a situation when you the only t3 VG fleet in system. Aka bullshit propaganda.


Cooncidently, I notice quite allot of negativity from goonwaffe, as if they dont want new players to keep joining and keeping their stay in New eden.

In fact, there are so many people enjoying themselves, learning game mechanics, making friends, getting hooked, I dont think the Dev's are in any rush to break the customers up.

What ever happened to the funny, entertaining trolls.

Why is it, there always needs to be a group of people bent on negativity, instead of helping themselves to a possible, limitless amount of fresh new recruits.


You mistake new players for nullsec alts.

Highsec incursions are pretty good at the individual level for Goonwaffe members (and other 0.0 organisations) since they allow us to earn hilarious amounts of ISK to funnel to our mains, and fund the plex to keep multiple accounts running with only a few hours work every month, and at essentially zero risk. The big-picture effect on the economy of so much raw ISK flowing into the game is not so good, as can be seen by the inexorably rising prices of plex and characters.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-06 08:00:35 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:

You mistake new players for nullsec alts.

Highsec incursions are pretty good at the individual level for Goonwaffe members (and other 0.0 organisations) since they allow us to earn hilarious amounts of ISK to funnel to our mains, and fund the plex to keep multiple accounts running with only a few hours work every month, and at essentially zero risk. The big-picture effect on the economy of so much raw ISK flowing into the game is not so good, as can be seen by the inexorably rising prices of plex and characters.


Spot on.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#13 - 2012-03-07 05:35:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Kara Books
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Kara Books wrote:
Cedo Nulli wrote:
Posting in a stealth "Nerf incursions" thread.

And yet again the profit/h numbers are taken from a situation when you the only t3 VG fleet in system. Aka bullshit propaganda.


Cooncidently, I notice quite allot of negativity from goonwaffe, as if they dont want new players to keep joining and keeping their stay in New eden.

In fact, there are so many people enjoying themselves, learning game mechanics, making friends, getting hooked, I dont think the Dev's are in any rush to break the customers up.

What ever happened to the funny, entertaining trolls.

Why is it, there always needs to be a group of people bent on negativity, instead of helping themselves to a possible, limitless amount of fresh new recruits.


You mistake new players for nullsec alts.

Highsec incursions are pretty good at the individual level for Goonwaffe members (and other 0.0 organisations) since they allow us to earn hilarious amounts of ISK to funnel to our mains, and fund the plex to keep multiple accounts running with only a few hours work every month, and at essentially zero risk. The big-picture effect on the economy of so much raw ISK flowing into the game is not so good, as can be seen by the inexorably rising prices of plex and characters.


I mistake nothing, as Iv personally given out atleast 5 Navy battleships to players with less then 6 months under their belts, Something tells me this has same story has repeated itself countless times, "Older players helping newbies"
Perhaps its time for atleast one gune to think before you post.

as for Goonswaffe alts, Do you mean Ratting bots?, that sounds far more plausible with your comment about "just a few hours per month"
Iv bin in the most elite of the elite incursion groups, multple top 5 LP earned and completed incursions, Iv also bin in multiple large engagement against goons, you are not fooling anybody.

P.S.
Deal with iT