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general soloing advice?

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zythyl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-03 13:32:31 UTC
I've been away from EVE for too long and I'm just looking for some general soloing PvP advice for when i'm not roaming around in gangs . . . anyone got some pointers? Pirate
Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-03-03 15:42:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Roosterton
Don't commit to fights if you can avoid it. Kiting tends to work better than close range brawling for solo, on the basis that you can be webbed and short scrammed if you get close, becoming a sitting duck for his gang.

Know the locals and the area so that you're familiar with who flies what and how competent they are. This will help you choose your fights more effectively.

Oh, and Amarr non-FW lowsec is ****. Big smile
Abbadon21
Ignotis Imperium
Usurper.
#3 - 2012-03-03 21:26:56 UTC
Kiting is good because like the last guy said it helps you to not commit to fights.

Also realize the more you do it the faster you will learn. This is why I tell people to get 10-20 fully fit ships then go pvp that way losses don't hurt as much and it will encourage you to take more risks.

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VR Highfive
Hayabusa Logistics.
#4 - 2012-03-03 21:44:34 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42133&find=unread <------- you should definitely check this thread out.

Learning solo PvP, one explosion at a time.

Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#5 - 2012-03-03 22:57:39 UTC
Abbadon21 wrote:

Also realize the more you do it the faster you will learn. This is why I tell people to get 10-20 fully fit ships then go pvp that way losses don't hurt as much and it will encourage you to take more risks.


I generally disagree with this idea because this normally results in you fitting your 10-20 ships all the same. If you fly the Rifter and want to pvp in it, then you will learn to fly one kind of Rifter, but you will miss out on all the other flavors which have their place and advantages.

My Advice:

Pick the hull that you want to use for getting into solo work. Go buy 10-20 of them. EFT warrior some fits that you think will work. Start with more "conventional" looking fits. Pick one of your fits. Buy the mods to fit 3-5 in that manner. Fly them until you feel that you have a good understanding of how the ship works: strengths, weaknesses, common prey, what to avoid, etc. Once you have this skill/knowledge, try a new fit. Rinse and repeat until you become the Rifter Master (or master of whatever ship you went with). Don't be afraid to try crazy fits too. The bottom line to not making a fail fit is that your ship should utilize it's bonuses and be focused to do a few things well.

Also, test your fits out first before you go out hunting in them. Have a duel to hull with a friend or get on the test server and try it there. This will tell you if you screwed something up or it just didn't work well.

Solo Rifter since 2009

Mnesarete
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#6 - 2012-03-03 23:49:43 UTC
No need to start a new thread for this - where is the best place for solo-frig PvP?

After a long absence from Eve, I am re-educating myself on frigate PvP. So far, I'm sticking to T1. I have plenty of ISK for ships, but I'd prefer to make my really stupid mistakes in T1 ships before I jump to nicer hulls.

I've found that finding relatively fair fights is much harder than actually fighting.

So far, I've cruised out to some of my old deep 0.0 stomping grounds - they are mostly empty. Most of 0.0 is a vast, wasteland. Not like I remember it back in 2007-2009 - when it seemed that people actually ratted and mined.

I've also ventured into Amamake, but fighting "1v1" against dudes with gangboosting alts isn't exactly instructive.

I've had a handful of good fights in HED-GP and some other 0.0 entry systems, but I've also died horribly to BC gangs with lots of bubbles.

Should I be in FW? If so, any suggestions as to which side? Any particular corps to try to impress/look out for?

Or should I be in RvB?

Or should I be looking for a good small gang corporation?

Thank you for your suggestions.
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#7 - 2012-03-04 00:06:32 UTC
Mnesarete. Everyone that I know of in Amamake will happily drop their fleet to fleet up with you for a 1v1 - hence no gangboosting. If you want this, you just need to ask.

My advice to people trying to get into frig pvp is to actually start with a dessie. It will be a lot more forgiving than a T1 frig. Also, a dessie can be a great ship for ganking FW plexers doing minor outposts. The other advantage to a dessie is the number of targets that you can reasonably engage.

For exmaple Rifter v Dram = Rfiter diaf, but Thrasher v Dram = dead Dram (if you do it right)

Solo Rifter since 2009

Mnesarete
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#8 - 2012-03-04 00:23:01 UTC
Thanks for the tips, Ahrieman. I'll definitely keep that in mind the next time I come for a visit.

I have a few destroyers fit out. I'll give those a try at some time in the near future.
Pulgy
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-03-04 03:19:44 UTC
It's a tarp. Always. Plan accordingly.
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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#10 - 2012-03-04 03:41:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ahrieman
Pulgy wrote:
It's a tarp. Always. Plan accordingly.


When soloing in a frig, this may often be the case, but the only way to avoid it is to not solo. That's the risk involved.

I had a Moa in hull a week ago with my Rifter when his buddy in a Taranis finally showed up to save his ass. This week I was soloing a Moa and to prevent the same thing from happening and not getting the kill, I called in the last guy I killed (since we were chatting about our recent fight) and we handily killed the Moa. If I wanted to do it solo, it would have taken longer and the risk would have gone up accordingly.

If you want to solo there will be times when poeple do unfair stuff and you get ganked, just be ready for it. Now I know for a fact that all Heretics honor 1v1's and ransoms. However, most of the ones who will give you a 1v1 are competent enough to not lose very often - that's the tradeoff there.

Solo Rifter since 2009

GenesisMike
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-03-04 03:51:29 UTC
RvB will give you definite honored 1v1's all the time. We also do regular fleets, daily in my experience and you have people on almost all TZ's. Having left the HS war decs and low sec pvp corp's I can honestly say I have never had so much fun as I have had in RvB. There is a good mix of new pvp'rs and veterans alike so you can get plenty of wins/losses. Look us up.

Mike
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#12 - 2012-03-04 04:28:42 UTC
GenesisMike wrote:
RvB will give you definite honored 1v1's all the time. We also do regular fleets, daily in my experience and you have people on almost all TZ's. Having left the HS war decs and low sec pvp corp's I can honestly say I have never had so much fun as I have had in RvB. There is a good mix of new pvp'rs and veterans alike so you can get plenty of wins/losses. Look us up.

Mike


Confirming that RvB may be one of the best ways to get reacquainted with frig work and duels. From what I understand, "hunting" the way a solo pilot does is limited. I could be wrong here though.

Solo Rifter since 2009

Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-04 06:29:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Darthewok
Try RvB. Soloing on your own is hardcore difficulty mode for EVE.

CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#14 - 2012-03-04 09:13:02 UTC
Darthewok wrote:
Soloing on your own is hardcore difficulty mode for EVE.

What?

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Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-03-04 10:23:58 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Darthewok wrote:
Soloing on your own is hardcore difficulty mode for EVE.

What?

No alts, no corp intel, no friends scouting, no boosts.

CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#16 - 2012-03-04 10:50:31 UTC
Its just called soloing.

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Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-04 11:00:05 UTC
Rifters, Inties.

CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#18 - 2012-03-04 17:08:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Vordak Kallager
Everyone in this thread has been suggesting for the OP to try "kiting".

I contend that this is the preferred style of fighting for little girls.

BRAWL IT THE **** DOWN.

Good day.

...

Hmm, now where did I put all of those new Artybals I just bought. Bear

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-03-05 22:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrett
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Everyone in this thread has been suggesting for the OP to try "kiting".

I contend that this is the preferred style of fighting for little girls.

BRAWL IT THE **** DOWN.

Good day.

...

Hmm, now where did I put all of those new Artybals I just bought. Bear


Sadly, no one else agrees with this. I dont have a problem with people kiting, but it results in many non-fights.

I can't find anyone to fight until the end of the fight. In the last week, I have been in at least 4 solo fights where once I got the opponent to half shields, they warp out. I would understand if the person was flying a vigilant or cynabal (&@$?@! The cynabal), but these people have been in cheap T1 ships. Every time I DO actually get someone to hang around, it's only because they are waiting on their gang mates to jump/warp into you. I had a Naga and Talos both into armor with a T1 cruiser, and got the gang-bang for my troubles.

I'm not complaining that people kite, or call in gang-mates - just using that as an example that true 'soloing' is hard to find. I'm essentially a 'pure' gallente pilot, but I can see why people fly Minnie and other nano stuff - it allows you to bug out. Flying blaster ships inside web and scram range usually doesn't give you that option.

Of course, it's entirely possible that I just suck - so there's that. ;)

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#20 - 2012-03-07 18:34:08 UTC
A major issue of EVE is the fact that it is much too easy for fleet members to come and help. They just need to warp to zero and viola the blob is around you. This is the reason why kiting is currently the king of solo hunting. If you are in a brawler only engaging targets Inside of dead space plexes gives you some chances to avoid being blobbed. Therefore I strongly advocate that faction warefare plex mechanics should be extendet to other areas like 0.0. More plexes, more chances for small scale engagements!
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