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Official Recantation of Previous Opposition to Nation

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Ikarus Gaul
S I G M A
#1 - 2011-09-22 09:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikarus Gaul
Fellow Capsuleers,

This is an official repudiation of my previous position in opposition to Nation.

That opposition was founded in fear and a tendency to favour the status quo. Later, it was debased by a greedy acceptance of the commercialization of the capsuleer-based mercenary response by CONCORD. Like so many, I was blinded by fear of the new, and the glitter of shiny ISK and the toys that it could procure.

I urge you all to do likewise. Turn your backs on the empty, directionless, purposelessness of your eternal conflicts in service of empires and alliances. Turn towards salvation and purpose under Nation and Master Kuvakei. Only the Master has the knowledge and power to unite the races of humanity against the forces that would tear it apart. Only Nation is a beacon of hope in the cold and dark of the night.

This is no hollow gesture. I have liquidated my empire-based assets and now labour as a freelancer for True Power in Nation's heartland. I have donated a substantial portion (c. 20%) of my net worth to a proven loyalist capsuleer organization in order to subsidize their activities. And will no doubt participate in more rehabilitative activities in the future.

Furthermore, I also apologize to Nation and Slave Tama01 for my leading role in destroying her Chimera in Aidart in YC 112.08.05. I offer to replace said asset, valued at 780M ISK, if such restitution is required.

—Ikarus Gaul—
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#2 - 2011-09-22 09:09:13 UTC
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Turn towards salvation and purpose
You got confused on who you are loyal to there I think.
Ikarus Gaul
S I G M A
#3 - 2011-09-22 09:19:58 UTC
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Turn towards salvation and purpose
You got confused on who you are loyal to there I think.


Not in the least. You ascribe exclusive rights of the meaning of these words to another, I think. That is misplaced.

True salvation lies with Nation. Millions have been saved through the initiative of Nation.
Wedgetail
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-09-22 09:34:11 UTC
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Turn towards salvation and purpose
You got confused on who you are loyal to there I think.


Not in the least. You ascribe exclusive rights of the meaning of these words to another, I think. That is misplaced.

True salvation lies with Nation. Millions have been saved through the initiative of Nation.


heheh I never figured you for being so unable to save yourself from your own problems that you would feel the need to run to nation are you now so incapable of standing on your own two feet that you need to surrender responsibility to someone else?
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#5 - 2011-09-22 09:35:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkady Sadik
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Not in the least. You ascribe exclusive rights of the meaning of these words to another, I think. That is misplaced.
The words mean nothing, I can not ascribe "exclusive rights" of their meaning to anyone.

They're hollow rhetorics meant to disguise the inability of a group to deal with others simply being different or have other opinions. The mere idea that you have to beat up everyone else until they agree with you shows a remarkable lack of self-confidence and a rather childish mindset.

Getting told by the umpteenth group of lunatics that they will bring TRUE salvation, contrary to all the others who said that they will bring TRUE salvation, is getting kinda old.
Ikarus Gaul
S I G M A
#6 - 2011-09-22 09:53:31 UTC
Wedgetail wrote:

heheh I never figured you for being so unable to save yourself from your own problems that you would feel the need to run to nation are you now so incapable of standing on your own two feet that you need to surrender responsibility to someone else?


What problems might those be?

Far from surrendering responsibility, I am facing up to it. I believe that Nation is the only order that will survive that which doomed the Takmahl, the Yan Jung, and Talocan, and other elder races to extinction. Through Nation, humanity will understand all that is currently obscured. Through Nation, all that threatens us will be overcome.

I take a principled stand in favour of this vision. I am disappointed, though not surprised, that you do not share it.
Ikarus Gaul
S I G M A
#7 - 2011-09-22 09:55:32 UTC
Arkady Sadik wrote:
...Getting told by the umpteenth group of lunatics that they will bring TRUE salvation, contrary to all the others who said that they will bring TRUE salvation, is getting kinda old.


Except that in this case, Nation has the vision, plan, and ability to implement salvation and Utopia. We will be uplifted.
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#8 - 2011-09-22 10:01:12 UTC
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Except that in this case, Nation has the vision, plan, and ability to implement salvation and Utopia.
Just like the Amarr, the Equilibrium of Mankind, the Blood Raiders, and whatever other group of lunatics you come with claim to have. Your point was?
Ikarus Gaul
S I G M A
#9 - 2011-09-22 10:14:27 UTC
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Just like the Amarr, the Equilibrium of Mankind, the Blood Raiders, and whatever other group of lunatics you come with claim to have. Your point was?


If you cannot determine qualitative and quantitative differences between ragtag groups such as EoM and Nation, you are truly blind.

Nation has mastery of wormholes, brought the Jovian capital to its knees, understands the true nature and implications of Sleeper technology (e.g. the Cartesian Temporal Coordinator)... need I go on?
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-09-22 10:26:29 UTC
Ikarus Gaul wrote:

Nation has mastery of wormholes, brought the Jovian capital to its knees, understands the true nature and implications of Sleeper technology (e.g. the Cartesian Temporal Coordinator)...


..., fumbles around in space, hasn't accomplished much of anything besides fear mongering and winning the "loyalty" of a few capsuleers, has been trying the same strategy for decades with the same results, is run by a delusional madman, and continually gets opposed and obliterated by capsuleers.

Finished that for you.

~Malcolm Khross

Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#11 - 2011-09-22 10:29:22 UTC
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
brought the Jovian capital to its knees


Got any proof of this? Like, any actual proof? At all? I'd quite like to see it if you have. I normally notice stuff like this happening.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#12 - 2011-09-22 10:34:13 UTC
Oh god.

Frankly nobody cares. At all.

Hundreds of Supercapital starships, daily incursions, millions kidnapped, and you think anyone gives a s*** about some monocle sporting fanboy with a slave fetish?

Your parents either beat you too much or not enough.

Grow up.

**Vherokior **

Ikarus Gaul
S I G M A
#13 - 2011-09-22 10:38:49 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
brought the Jovian capital to its knees


Got any proof of this? Like, any actual proof? At all? I'd quite like to see it if you have. I normally notice stuff like this happening.


This is a matter of public record. Please see http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3967&tid=4.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-09-22 10:41:12 UTC
Right...lingering in space outside of a Jovian station equates to "bringing the Jovian capital to its knees," yep.

You just destroyed any credibility you might have had.

~Malcolm Khross

Wedgetail
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-09-22 10:44:15 UTC
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Wedgetail wrote:

heheh I never figured you for being so unable to save yourself from your own problems that you would feel the need to run to nation are you now so incapable of standing on your own two feet that you need to surrender responsibility to someone else?


What problems might those be?

Far from surrendering responsibility, I am facing up to it. I believe that Nation is the only order that will survive that which doomed the Takmahl, the Yan Jung, and Talocan, and other elder races to extinction. Through Nation, humanity will understand all that is currently obscured. Through Nation, all that threatens us will be overcome.

I take a principled stand in favour of this vision. I am disappointed, though not surprised, that you do not share it.


HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA you really don't have the vision to understand do you gaul? I'll give you a hint: are you not of human origin? a part of the species? or do you see yourself as being something beyond what you are?

regardless of what 'faction' we are under we are all the same we all have the same deficiencies and Kuvakei is no exception - admittedly the man was among the stronger of minds our species has encountered but the fool is lost to his own fear and impatience - said fool and those who follow cannot stomach the thought of human evolution sorting itself out he fears what is to come and he fears the result he cannot predict. the truly wise among us do not. for there is no need.

his fear of humanity's fate is so overwhelming that he strives to ESCAPE being what he his to do what the jove did before him and become something that is not human any longer - the jove doomed themselves with their foolishness and so will he.

the jove however chose their fate and did not force it upon any other - Kuvakei will take as many down with him as he can before he realises his folly.

Your legs are incapable of bearing the weight of your own self on humanity's course let alone capable of supporting those around you - so you need to suckle off kuvakei's teat in order to stay your place in the breeze? worthless is he who lacks the spine to walk the path with those placed at his side. lost are those who cannot hold strong to those around them regardless of what doom they may face.

If anything it is Kuvakei that needs to open his blinded eyes and stand beside the rest of his species! we will show him his fear is of naught but ghosts.
Ikarus Gaul
S I G M A
#16 - 2011-09-22 10:45:23 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
Right...lingering in space outside of a Jovian station equates to "bringing the Jovian capital to its knees," yep.

You just destroyed any credibility you might have had.


You think the Jovians would willingly tolerate non-Jovians in their capital system? I do not.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#17 - 2011-09-22 10:48:50 UTC
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Malcolm Khross wrote:
Right...lingering in space outside of a Jovian station equates to "bringing the Jovian capital to its knees," yep.

You just destroyed any credibility you might have had.


You think the Jovians would willingly tolerate non-Jovians in their capital system? I do not.


Where does it say this is their capital system?

Also, you may remember an incursion by a certain spiky person that was completely wiped out and removed in under 24 hours. Attacking jove space doesn't tend to go very well.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim

Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#18 - 2011-09-22 10:50:49 UTC
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
You think the Jovians would willingly tolerate non-Jovians in their capital system? I do not.
Capsuleers who hunt Sansha's minions daily and destroy more Sansha ships in a day than Sansha forces kill in a month dock at Sansha's stations in Stain every day.

By your logic, we already brought Kuvakei to his knees.
N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#19 - 2011-09-22 10:52:10 UTC
Wedgetail wrote:
Ikarus Gaul wrote:
Wedgetail wrote:

heheh I never figured you for being so unable to save yourself from your own problems that you would feel the need to run to nation are you now so incapable of standing on your own two feet that you need to surrender responsibility to someone else?


What problems might those be?

Far from surrendering responsibility, I am facing up to it. I believe that Nation is the only order that will survive that which doomed the Takmahl, the Yan Jung, and Talocan, and other elder races to extinction. Through Nation, humanity will understand all that is currently obscured. Through Nation, all that threatens us will be overcome.

I take a principled stand in favour of this vision. I am disappointed, though not surprised, that you do not share it.


HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA you really don't have the vision to understand do you gaul? I'll give you a hint: are you not of human origin? a part of the species? or do you see yourself as being something beyond what you are?

regardless of what 'faction' we are under we are all the same we all have the same deficiencies and Kuvakei is no exception - admittedly the man was among the stronger of minds our species has encountered but the fool is lost to his own fear and impatience - said fool and those who follow cannot stomach the thought of human evolution sorting itself out he fears what is to come and he fears the result he cannot predict. the truly wise among us do not. for there is no need.

his fear of humanity's fate is so overwhelming that he strives to ESCAPE being what he his to do what the jove did before him and become something that is not human any longer - the jove doomed themselves with their foolishness and so will he.

the jove however chose their fate and did not force it upon any other - Kuvakei will take as many down with him as he can before he realises his folly.

Your legs are incapable of bearing the weight of your own self on humanity's course let alone capable of supporting those around you - so you need to suckle off kuvakei's teat in order to stay your place in the breeze? worthless is he who lacks the spine to walk the path with those placed at his side. lost are those who cannot hold strong to those around them regardless of what doom they may face.

If anything it is Kuvakei that needs to open his blinded eyes and stand beside the rest of his species! we will show him his fear is of naught but ghosts.


Dont encourage him, he'll actually take this as a sign that his hissy fit is worth a damn.

**Vherokior **

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-09-22 10:55:04 UTC
Nope Big smile.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

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