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Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
#21 - 2012-03-02 22:24:38 UTC
You can use EFT/PyFA to see the effect of a TD on a ship fit (projected effects iirc). Also with dual prop you can use the range script in the TD to make them come close while you're mwding, and then the tracking speed script along with your AB to continue to ruin their guns' applied dps if you're in close.
If you're planning to scram, web and keep at the edge of tackle range, you'd still want the range script or perhaps unscripted (gives a bit of both effects), depending on your target and yourself (if you seem to be under double webs/90%s/too neuted to AB/etc).
TDs do only work against guns, not missiles. ABs reduce dps from missiles, and when flown with transversal also reduce applied gun dps. And help you control range/transversal on a target to kill them or get out of tackle range. Everyone wishes for about 3 more midslots on all ships Blink
Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#22 - 2012-03-03 12:05:32 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:


[Caldari Navy Hookbill, Dual Prop]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Ballistic Control System II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1MN Afterburner II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I




This is basically it although if you change MAPC to tech 2 you can get rid of the ancillary router for a weapons rig. Its a great fit especially good for playing with people inside plexes as you can use the mwd to pull off tacklers that generally cant compete in the dps/tank stakes once you get them scrammed.

Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! [zaps one of his minions accidentally, minion screams]
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#23 - 2012-03-03 12:10:57 UTC
oh cripes. I didnt notice it was still a tech I mapc /o\

AF's and dessies have been grabbing my attention post-patch just as much as for everyone else.

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Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#24 - 2012-03-03 12:25:26 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
oh cripes. I didnt notice it was still a tech I mapc /o\

AF's and dessies have been grabbing my attention post-patch just as much as for everyone else.


Its ok we forgive you Big smileBig smile

The fit does have trouble with some of the better range AFs (Wolf) but it should be able to take some of the other ones like the Enyo and badly flown blaster Harpys (i.e. no null).

Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! [zaps one of his minions accidentally, minion screams]
Bengal Bob
Slymsloot Enterprises
#25 - 2012-03-05 16:24:10 UTC
Next time self destruct. If your opponent can't kill your frig quickly enough, then that is their problem.
When the notification goes up, they may well try to close distance to take you down quicker.
That is when you overheat everything and try to cut his orbit

Above all, don't be discouraged, and remember to keep trying different fits and ships till you find your one true love.
BearJews
Order of Extrodinary Gentlemen
#26 - 2012-03-05 18:49:35 UTC
This is my hookbill, cause well i believe it can beat almost any turret ship with proper control.

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, PvP]
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II

Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 200

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Ganjjabeard
Black Vanguard Ops
#27 - 2012-03-05 21:21:37 UTC
BearJews wrote:
This is my hookbill, cause well i believe it can beat almost any turret ship with proper control.

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, PvP]
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II

Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 200

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I




thats a good fit, the only thing tho is the dual TD's on it. im assuming by doing that you are limiting the target to almost point blank range? (ie <5km) ill try this fit later and see how it goes cuz it seems it would be the perfect answer to those drams and firetails that like to kite at like 15-20km

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