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F2P DUST 514?

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Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-03-05 17:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Stellar Vix
From what I have read and seen was that the aurum would be buying the following.

1 Cosmetic stuff!
2 Variants of Existing weapons that offer different properties and I am seriously hoping its more of an access not the item itself.
AKA Full auto assault vs semi auto carbine vs 5 round burst versions on the rifel
AKA Auto cannon that spins up first before firing vs the auto cannon that fires at first trigger pull
3 Early Access to things you havent skill up for yet.
4 NO MAPS

-Vix

I just rolled a MW3 alt to see what the bottom of the leader boards looked like.
12 million people o-O

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Jeyne Nhidar
#22 - 2012-03-05 17:26:54 UTC
When I first heard that CCP was launching Dust exclusively on the PS3, I wondered how they planned to make any sizable profit with a notoriously fickle audience. This makes sense and I support it. I would post a more detailed reply but...


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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#23 - 2012-03-05 17:34:28 UTC
Tirestun wrote:
http://www.ccpgames.com/en/public-relations/press-releases/article/9149/ccp-s-dust-514-to-be-the-first-true-free-to-play-fps-on

Let me make sure I understand this correctly:

You're releasing DUST 514....

For free? Is anyone else confused and looking for the business model in this?

ITT: Dust 514 will be FREE. Wat do?


you have to buy the box... and if you want you can buy plexes to outfit your stuff...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#24 - 2012-03-05 17:37:05 UTC
Glad I won't be paying for it so I lose no money for being killed by people who spend more Lol

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.

Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#25 - 2012-03-05 17:37:12 UTC
Tirestun wrote:
http://www.ccpgames.com/en/public-relations/press-releases/article/9149/ccp-s-dust-514-to-be-the-first-true-free-to-play-fps-on

Let me make sure I understand this correctly:

You're releasing DUST 514....

For free? Is anyone else confused and looking for the business model in this?

ITT: Dust 514 will be FREE. Wat do?


What's the big deal? It's a different game.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com

Boseo
Azure Horizon
#26 - 2012-03-05 17:59:24 UTC
ITT:
Lots of whining, and people showing their lack of ability to read or research the subject they are complaining about.


Personally seeing most of the articles about this it seems like a good plan, as putting a subscription on a console game is a bad idea due to the nature of the way people like to game on consoles (like to not be tied down to a game which a subscription would do)
It also looks like it should not affect people who don't want to put RL money into the game, due to the way paid items can be sold for isk (much like plex in eve)

Also being free you are more likely to get people going "oh I wonder what this is about? oh its free *download*" than if they had to pay a cover fee. Why? because it cost nothing but time. and I already know a few guys who upon reading that it will be free have said "I will have a look at it" and knowing these guys they will most probably spend some cash while playing .. so profit.

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-03-05 18:04:00 UTC
boseo wrote:
ITT:
Lots of whining, and people showing their lack of ability to read or research the subject they are complaining about.


Personally seeing most of the articles about this it seems like a good plan, as putting a subscription on a console game is a bad idea due to the nature of the way people like to game on consoles (like to not be tied down to a game which a subscription would do)
It also looks like it should not affect people who don't want to put RL money into the game, due to the way paid items can be sold for isk (much like plex in eve)

Also being free you are more likely to get people going "oh I wonder what this is about? oh its free *download*" than if they had to pay a cover fee. Why? because it cost nothing but time. and I already know a few guys who upon reading that it will be free have said "I will have a look at it" and knowing these guys they will most probably spend some cash while playing .. so profit.


Thank you for saving me from writing what you more or less said. People need to cry less, google more.

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Sarmatiko
#28 - 2012-03-05 18:06:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Wow there are lot of dumb people who cant read or make basic research.

Team Fortress 2 is free-to-play shooter with vanity items in micro-transaction shop. There is no pay-to-win button.
World of Tanks is free-to-play shooter with spend-time-or-pay-to-progress system. You can buy premium Hotchkiss or Mouse to kill inexperienced losers, but still you will be raped by any good team.

Most of the complainers definitely have ps3-f2p tumor in their brain. Twisted
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#29 - 2012-03-05 18:21:54 UTC
What I think CCP is going to do is release the base game with all items available and what not to the dust players.

EvE players will have to supply them with isk so they can buy upgrades for their existing items etc work your way to the top.

Dust Aurum will most likely be for cosmetic items such as custom command centers, ships, backgrounds etc in things like STO HOWEVER, CCP borked and only gives us half the story to start an uproar in the community and the mmo world.

However I dont care how dust is run as long as there is now pay to win items and EvE never goes F2P

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#30 - 2012-03-05 18:25:34 UTC
eve has been ftp since the introduction of Plex... sure some poor shmuck has to buy the plex in the first place and put up sell order in the first place... but if you dont want to have to pay for eve you dont have to...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#31 - 2012-03-05 18:36:58 UTC
well, this was a good decision. try to explain somebody that you have to pay a "cover charge" for a free2play game while looking serious.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#32 - 2012-03-05 18:39:26 UTC
boseo wrote:
ITT:
Lots of whining, and people showing their lack of ability to read or research the subject they are complaining about.


Personally seeing most of the articles about this it seems like a good plan, as putting a subscription on a console game is a bad idea due to the nature of the way people like to game on consoles (like to not be tied down to a game which a subscription would do)
It also looks like it should not affect people who don't want to put RL money into the game, due to the way paid items can be sold for isk (much like plex in eve)

Also being free you are more likely to get people going "oh I wonder what this is about? oh its free *download*" than if they had to pay a cover fee. Why? because it cost nothing but time. and I already know a few guys who upon reading that it will be free have said "I will have a look at it" and knowing these guys they will most probably spend some cash while playing .. so profit.


This^^

Adapt or Die

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-03-05 18:52:14 UTC
This whole thread is one massive failure. They will make their money off of microtransactions for Aurum. It is not hard to figure out. And no this is not the same as Pay to Win. I won't buy a single thing in DUST with real money but I guarantee I will likely kick your ass everytime anyway.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

Riggs Droput
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-03-05 19:01:54 UTC
F2P Dust looks like a MMO version of TF2.

Will play, won't pay, will still win.

I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees

Tekashi Kovacs
Golfclap Inc
#35 - 2012-03-05 19:27:57 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
eve has been ftp since the introduction of Plex... sure some poor shmuck has to buy the plex in the first place and put up sell order in the first place... but if you dont want to have to pay for eve you dont have to...


I feel sorry for you and your time being worth nothing. Reminds me of "I mined veld myself so its free" mentality.
Burseg Sardaukar
Free State Project
#36 - 2012-03-06 03:54:34 UTC
Brilliant idea, and probably the only way they'll hit the "millions" of players estimate they originally claimed... if they up the Advertising that is.

One of the stats I was reading said that Quantum Rise was one of the most successful expansions (by player-count increase), and the only thing it can be attributed to is the small ad that CCP ran during Battlestar Galactica, because, frankly, I can't remember a thing that was remarkable about that expansion to warrant such a high success rate.

So: Free2play = excellent perk for those that already know about the game or sit around on the playstation store for the "newest stuff, but Ads = broader knowledge of the game and potentially hitting that "several million" player estimate.

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#37 - 2012-03-06 04:01:09 UTC
Dust 514 needs an advertisement campaign

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.

Gabriel DiCozza
Alpha-Cephei
Lyrae Alliance
#38 - 2012-03-06 10:53:46 UTC
This announcement is part of the campaign.

I have a blog post about this. Basically, I think Sony is fighting a difficult battle against other gaming platforms such as PC, iPhone and Facebook. They need to build passageways to the rest of the gaming world (invasion ramps or escape lanes). They want to have this PSN community built on excellent hardware and software, and keep lines of communication open. They did not have any F2P FPS, now they can reach more people.
For CCP, the primary business goal is certainly to find another source of revenue, because having only one breadwinner is a critical risk as proved last year with all the ruckus. I guess they analyzed F2P as the most efficient way to secure enough players to build revenue and also to provide a vibrant partner in the "connection feature".
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#39 - 2012-03-06 11:43:42 UTC
CCP have chosen to make a deal with that steaming pile of dung (my opinion) called Sony. CCP is free to make deals and partner with whoever it wants. Sony is free to be hacked and lose unreleased music and credit card info whenever it wants. They are not free to install rootkits whenever they want but they do it anyway.

Well, I won't be playing DUST until it comes out on another platform. But that's just my personal opinion.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#40 - 2012-03-06 12:49:14 UTC
Thing that bothers me is the 'aurum' as we still cannot currently trade it, so are we EVE-players going to help the dusties if we cannot give them funding or even equipment and they pay all their stuff with aurums ?

Anyway cash shop can work 3 ways:
- They either ruin the game with (massively) over priced must have in PvP items (allods anyone).
- They sell stuff that no one really cares to spend cash on and the game goes bust.
- They sell stuff that that people like to buy but are not just for progressing in the game such as premium accounts such as earlier access to horses, more bag space, no gold limit, monster play (pvp arena) etc. as in LOTRO.

And I so hope that CCP doen't F***k with the cash shop because if they do the game will be dead in a few months.
So do put those 1000 things in the cash shop instead of 6 that no one gives a damn, like we had in EVE.
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