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Are Energy pulse weapons useful? And if so when are they useful?

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Gerard Dredmere
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-02-26 22:19:48 UTC
Just what it says, is this skill worth training and what priority should it have? It is low on my list at the moment, and I am thinking of removing it all together.
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-26 22:27:42 UTC
The energy pulse weapons, aka "Smart Bombs" (SB) are Point-Blank Area Effect (PBAE) weapons. Within a relatively short distance (I want to say 5k, as I don't equip/use them all that often), the deal damage to all targets, friendly or hostile. This is why it's generally not a good idea to use them in highsec, since you may damage someone that will result in CONCORD spanking your butt.

Now, that being said, there are two main uses I've heard of for them.

1) Gate camps to get smaller ships and pods. A battleship, typically a Rokh or Armageddon, has 8 large SBs equipped and cycles them all at once. This does enough damage to kill pretty much and frigate or low HP vessel, and get the pod, as well. If done in highsec, you will lose your ship to CONCORD.

2) Equip one, maybe two small or medium SBs on a cruiser or BC for anti-drone defense. This way, you don't have to worry about targeting them, you simply cycle the SB(s) until the drones are dead.

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Gerard Dredmere
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-02-26 22:32:43 UTC
Thanks so useful but low priority, once again thanks.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-02-26 22:39:43 UTC
Anti: drones, missiles, bombs, warp disruption probes
Often used on carriers, otherwise not so much.
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#5 - 2012-02-27 11:11:04 UTC
Useful for:
Nullsec PVE (on carriers or certain battleships) for clearing frigs / cruisers in static spawns at point blank
General PVP (on battleships with either 2x webs or warpstabs) for killing frigates by baiting them to smartbomb range. A 4-warpstabbed faction smartbomb battleship is fairly useful if you find out how and where to use it :)
Muad 'dib
The Nine Nine
#6 - 2012-02-27 11:51:36 UTC
They are basicly not used in high sec at all, and rarly else where.

You cant activate them too close to certian things in space, for example you cant let one off wihtin5km of a station or stargate

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Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
No Handlebars.
#7 - 2012-02-27 12:26:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Danny John-Peter
They are used on Carriers/Supers fairly regularly along side Nuets, Faction Large generally reach to 7.5k, T2 Large to 5k, Also good for clearing off drones from Logistics (God Damn EC-300s)

I believe you also need the skill to V for Doomsdays.

Also, Disco BS are a fairly hilarious answer to Frig Swarms.

They used to be used on Scorps etc in something called a Firewall, where basically they would make a wall of Smartbombing to eliminate missiles before they hit there target, as far as Im aware this no longer works as Missiles are no longer Physical objects.
Kessiaan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-02-27 18:52:02 UTC
I see them used a lot on logis a lot, since such ships tend be swarmed by ECM drones on a regular basis. Caps frequently use smartbombs as well for drone / missile defense.

Once in a while a firewall fleet will use them for anti-missile defense.

One of my favorite lol things to do is load up a battleship with 8 large smartbombs and as many stabs as I can strap on and go looking for roaming frig gangs. This obviously isn't a regular occurrence.
Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-02-27 21:41:09 UTC
I used to use a couple of them on a Moa for clearing the Guristas 3/10 DED plex. Those frigates swarm just close enough. The trouble of course if anyone warps in and approaches you, you get CONCORDed.
Ned Black
Driders
#10 - 2012-02-28 09:07:28 UTC
The only time I really every put SBs on a ship is while flying a scorp. In the beginning I used to put some kind of weapons on it (cruise/torp) but I usually have enough just to keep people jammed without worrying about a dribble of DPS. I also noticed that I was attracting just about every drone on the battlefield especially ECM drones loved me for some reason... but one rack blast of the smartbombs soloved that problem quickly and efficiently :)

Since then I never fly scorps without smartbombs :D
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-28 12:50:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
Cephelange du'Krevviq wrote:
The energy pulse weapons, aka "Smart Bombs" (SB) are Point-Blank Area Effect (PBAE) weapons.

Quoting the only person in recorded history to call smartbombs a 'Point-Blank Area Effect Weapon'.

edit - YES THEY ARE USEFUL
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The Vastator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-28 19:32:24 UTC
Look for a gate with a decent amount of activity preferably lowsec. Fit a Rokh or any decent BS with smart bombs and sit on said gate. Watch out for frigs, shuttles and pods as they warp in, Pulse smart bombs... profit?
Alara IonStorm
#13 - 2012-02-28 19:49:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
The Vastator wrote:
Look for a gate with a decent amount of activity preferably lowsec. Fit a Rokh or any decent BS with smart bombs and sit on said gate. Watch out for frigs, shuttles and pods as they warp in, Pulse smart bombs... profit?

Better to use a Phoon. It allows for more L33T PvP to be fit in the low slots.

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For use against Hictors

Wasp EC-900 x5
Vespa EC-600 x5


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Cephelange du'Krevviq
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-02-28 21:15:23 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Cephelange du'Krevviq wrote:
The energy pulse weapons, aka "Smart Bombs" (SB) are Point-Blank Area Effect (PBAE) weapons.

Quoting the only person in recorded history to call smartbombs a 'Point-Blank Area Effect Weapon'.


Not inaccurate, is it?

"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"

Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Top Belt for Fun
#15 - 2012-02-28 21:30:03 UTC
Also great for killing a pod when a ship goes pop to your gang. Sebo'd ceptors can't beat it Twisted

Solo Rifter since 2009

TotalRapeage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-02-29 08:08:51 UTC
Danny John-Peter wrote:
They are used on Carriers/Supers fairly regularly along side Nuets, Faction Large generally reach to 7.5k, T2 Large to 5k, Also good for clearing off drones from Logistics (God Damn EC-300s)

I believe you also need the skill to V for Doomsdays.

Also, Disco BS are a fairly hilarious answer to Frig Swarms.

They used to be used on Scorps etc in something called a Firewall, where basically they would make a wall of Smartbombing to eliminate missiles before they hit there target, as far as Im aware this no longer works as Missiles are no longer Physical objects.




Well, if they are not physical objects then what are they? All I know is my torps seem to die from bombs(bomber) with no troubles.
Onictus
Capital Fusion.
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2012-02-29 08:19:00 UTC
Danny John-Peter wrote:
They are used on Carriers/Supers fairly regularly along side Nuets, Faction Large generally reach to 7.5k, T2 Large to 5k, Also good for clearing off drones from Logistics (God Damn EC-300s)

I believe you also need the skill to V for Doomsdays.

Also, Disco BS are a fairly hilarious answer to Frig Swarms.

They used to be used on Scorps etc in something called a Firewall, where basically they would make a wall of Smartbombing to eliminate missiles before they hit there target, as far as Im aware this no longer works as Missiles are no longer Physical objects.



Still works.

That stunt was pulled on us from a carriers I know, who'd a thunk it, -A- using a heavy missile fleet.
Revman Zim
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-03-05 15:25:23 UTC
I fit one on my Paladin for L4 Missions. Great for killing the scram/web mission drones. I use a faction SB since it gives a 7500m area of effect. Just make sure your own drones are either in bay or outside that range.
Caldari Citizen20090217
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-05 15:41:06 UTC
Situational, but definitely usefulPirate

Avoid in highsec however, unless you like random concordokken.
Valleria Darkmoon
Bank Robbers
#20 - 2012-03-05 22:43:01 UTC
I fit them to jamming ships actually, it's not like you're there for your damage potential and often the first and biggest threat is that someone gets a lock and gets drones on you before they are jammed. Smartbomb clears them off and lets you stay on grid.

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